Kirstie Alley and her new boyfriend

lipstick said:
ooooooo you mad...you couldn't even get miss ireland...her man is ugly...not pining after anyone's man here...not my problem if men can't keep their hands to themselves and want a piece of lippy...don't you even test me...lippy has a vault of proof that i would love to put on blast...wanna see:smt045this might be kinda fun...try me
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No offence, but if you're talking about a couple on this forum, I think it's a little harsh to publicly upset someone just to win an argument. If my bf was cheating, I'd wanna hear that in private.

Apologies if I'm misunderstanding completely, that's just what I'm getting from your post.
MrFantastic said:
So acknowleding stereotypes perpetuates them? If I acknowledge that black unemployment is higher than whites or that Asians find more gainful employment am I helping to keep the problem going? Should I just shut the fuck up and mind my business and be happy I'm employed? This topic has been talked to death but like anything with you women and some of your can do no wrong supporters you'd rather pretend people who say anything about it has a problem. How about we productive. How can we change the stereotypes or feelings about them?
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I know this was at someone else, but since I said much the same as they did:

It's not that you're acknowledging it, it's that you're up in arms about it. You said yourself that when you dated a fat girl, you got stick for it. Why the hell should you?

I had some male friends who went on and on about how ugly another friend's wife was and I thought it was disgusting. It's not up to anyone else who you date/marry/sleep with/whatever, it's up to you. This isn't a black man thing, it's a man thing and it's stupid.

I'm not saying I've never commented on a mismatched couple or that I don't think they seem like and odd pairing, I just don't think it warrants so much attention.
 
Xboxgirl said:
No offence, but if you're talking about a couple on this forum, I think it's a little harsh to publicly upset someone just to win an argument. If my bf was cheating, I'd wanna hear that in private.

Apologies if I'm misunderstanding completely, that's just what I'm getting from your post.

I know this was at someone else, but since I said much the same as they did:

It's not that you're acknowledging it, it's that you're up in arms about it. You said yourself that when you dated a fat girl, you got stick for it. Why the hell should you?

I had some male friends who went on and on about how ugly another friend's wife was and I thought it was disgusting. It's not up to anyone else who you date/marry/sleep with/whatever, it's up to you. This isn't a black man thing, it's a man thing and it's stupid.

I'm not saying I've never commented on a mismatched couple or that I don't think they seem like and odd pairing, I just don't think it warrants so much attention.
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It's sad how we as women are judged based on our looks, but men are visual creatures (and a lot of us women are as well, but for the sake of argument, I'm using men as the basis of my statement), so it goes without saying. Men love when other men co-sign/approve their mates. Their egos skyrocket like they've won the lottery. The more of a banger she is, the better.
 
Xboxgirl said:
No offence, but if you're talking about a couple on this forum, I think it's a little harsh to publicly upset someone just to win an argument. If my bf was cheating, I'd wanna hear that in private.

Apologies if I'm misunderstanding completely, that's just what I'm getting from your post.

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i didn't bring it up...MF thinks he knows something...he knows nothing...if he thinks he knows something he doesn't know the truth...he is trash talking because lippy put him in his place...lippy doesn't want anyone else's man...period end of story:rolleyes:
 
Inner Beauty said:
It's sad how we as women are judged based on our looks, but men are visual creatures (and a lot of us women are as well, but for the sake of argument, I'm using men as the basis of my statement), so it goes without saying. Men love when other men co-sign/approve their mates. Their egos skyrocket like they've won the lottery. The more of a banger she is, the better.
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IB-welcome back!

Real talk-men are judged by our looks as well, especially in America, unless you've got serious loot like Trump you aint gonna see a busted dude like that guy pulling a Miss Ireland.
 
UnChosen 1 said:
IB-welcome back!

Real talk-men are judged by our looks as well, especially in America, unless you've got serious loot like Trump you aint gonna see a busted dude like that guy pulling a Miss Ireland.
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Thank you!

You are judged, but not as harshly. Now if we want to talk about bank accounts and level of success, then you can compare that to women and their looks.
 
Inner Beauty said:
Thank you!

You are judged, but not as harshly. Now if we want to talk about bank accounts and level of success, then you can compare that to women and their looks.
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Of course they are. Go to any college campus and see if the nerdy guy going to get that cheerleader, unless of course his father is Steven Spielberg and he is driving a porche.
 
UnChosen 1 said:
Of course they are. Go to any college campus and see if the nerdy guy going to get that cheerleader, unless his father is Steven Spielberg and he is driving a porche.
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In that aspect you're right, because a lot of women at that age are into guys who have (I hate using that word, but it's fitting for this), "swag". He doesn't necessarily have to be a looker, but if he has charisma and confidence and a nice body, he's good-to-go.

Look at it like this, you take an ugly dude with money who pulls hot women. Then people wonder, how'd he pull her? That's along the lines I'm going with this.
 
Inner Beauty said:
Thank you!

You are judged, but not as harshly. Now if we want to talk about bank accounts and level of success, then you can compare that to women and their looks.
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Truth is we're all judged some way some how but I'll say this about men. We don't pretend looks don't matter and then go after a hot girl. Women pretend that money and status don't matter but get uber interested when they find out a guy is a doctor or a banker. I do think women have it tougher because prettiness is something you're born into and can't be achieved like success
 
MrFantastic said:
Truth is we're all judged some way some how but I'll say this about men. We don't pretend looks don't matter and then go after a hot girl. Women pretend that money and status don't matter but get uber interested when they find out a guy is a doctor or a banker. I do think women have it tougher because prettiness is something you're born into and can't be achieved like success
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That is the truth right there. You can only do so much to make yourself look better, but if your features or your bone structure are one way, you can only do so much. That's when you work whatever you have to the best of your ability.

I'm not gonna go there with you on the money tip, but I will say that if we were living in yesteryear, being with a man who can provide was almost mandatory cause women didn't work like we do now. Some women still want a man to provide, but if you're talking about a gold-digger, than thats a different story.
 
Inner Beauty said:
That is the truth right there. You can only do so much to make yourself look better, but if your features or your bone structure are one way, you can only do so much. That's when you work whatever you have to the best of your ability.

I'm not gonna go there with you on the money tip, but I will say that if we were living in yesteryear, being with a man who can provide was almost mandatory cause women didn't work like we do now. Some women still want a man to provide, but if you're talking about a gold-digger, than thats a different story.
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It's not about gold diggin some things are simply instinctive and we can't help what turns us on. Women love wealth and power maybe not some of you but generally speaking. When a man says he owns four pizzerias instead of working their women get wet and that's real kid.
 
MrFantastic said:
So acknowleding stereotypes perpetuates them? If I acknowledge that black unemployment is higher than whites or that Asians find more gainful employment am I helping to keep the problem going? Should I just shut the fuck up and mind my business and be happy I'm employed? This topic has been talked to death but like anything with you women and some of your can do no wrong supporters you'd rather pretend people who say anything about it has a problem. How about we productive. How can we change the stereotypes or feelings about them?[/QUOTE]





This is just me and how I came up but my grandparents and parents made it a point to stress that the goal for black men is to strive to surpass those at the head of the power structure. Do not settle to be on equal level or to be exactly like those in the power structure, because change can not be made as long as those at the top remain in charge. Surpass them and knock them from the top of the structure and become the new head. Once you become the new head strive to do better than the former head in order to correct the inequalities and injustices that existed under the old structure and strive to insure that both the same old injustices & inequalities or new injustices and equalities arise for future generations to come.

Do I realistically think this will happen in my lifetime? No. But I try to pass this along to my kids and hopefully they will to theirs if this change is not acheived in their lifetime until it those. All fine and well if some of you feel the need to point out the inequalites and injustices that exist, but also don't just settle for half assed solutions to the problem aka get rich & say fuck you I got mine get yours and think the powers that be will see you as an equal, because they don't. And let's be real. That is exactly what some of you "concerned brothers" would do in a heartbeat. And don't say you won't.
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Ah if it was only 42 pages of how we can stop drive-by shootings or getting healthy food in black areas, or owning businesses that don't have anything to do with rap or sports. Or staying the fuck out of jail. *sigh*
 
MrFantastic said:
It's not about gold diggin some things are simply instinctive and we can't help what turns us on. Women love wealth and power maybe not some of you but generally speaking. When a man says he owns four pizzerias instead of working their women get wet and that's real kid.
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You realize that the vast majority of middle America couples, married and not married are regular day to day economically struggling couples right???
No wealth to speak of, mostly living form pay-check to pay-check.
 
FG said:
You realize that the vast majority of middle America couples, married and not married are regular day to day economically struggling couples right???
No wealth to speak of, mostly living form pay-check to pay-check.
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Even on that lesser scale you'd be hard pressed to find a couple where the man doesn't out earn the woman and if you were to ask a lot of those women who they secretly lusted for it wouldn't be Joe at the farmers market
 
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