Islam and the Muslim

BigBrotherWise said:
Tha main reason for people to really hate them is due to 9/11. Prior to that, we hardly knew much about Islam, although we do have a population of Muslims living in the U.S.. So combined with 9/11 and the media's attention to the more extremist Muslims who practice old world thinking, hatred towards a group of people based on a few individuals and their action is pretty much on the forefront.

In many respects, Islam is practically no different from any other Abrahamic faiths - Christianity, Judaism except some of its practices. It's another religion, where some cannot wake up from the dark ages, while others are trying to modernize themselves and integrate Islam the same way Christians had to water down their beliefs. Except now, it's a big struggle with extremists having greater influence and douse their followers with a spice of fear and delusion.
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But Islam can't be reformed. Don't expect any changes anytime soon.
 
DenzBenz said:
But Islam can't be reformed. Don't expect any changes anytime soon.
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You can say that about all religions. The texts are merely there and they cannot change, but the people who belong to these institutions can change or reform the beliefs and texts overall. Whether by disregarding certain rules or changing the interpretations, changes have been considered and made. This is true because there are liberal Islamic movements, but they are fairly drowned by the noise of ultraconservative nonsense.
 
sockervadd said:
he ENGAGED a six year old.. didn't marry her until proper age



I have heard that Muhammed maried so many girls to give them more status.. for example he married a widow to show other men that that was okeyy, he married that little girl for some reason I don't remember, but he did not have sex with her until they were married, that's a sin..
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He was 52 years old and she was 9 years old when they got married. The Islamic source materials state that Aisha was 9 when they consummated their marriage. Islam allows Muslim husbands to engage in sex with their child brides. Even today Muslim men marry child brides.

Take for example this photo of Muslim men in a mass wedding of child brides.

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And another with details below from a report.

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Palestinians participate in a mass wedding of hundreds of Palestinians in the town of Beit Lahiya, northern Gaza Strip, Thursday, July 30, 2009. Over 400 couples were married on Thursday in Beit Lahiya in a ceremony sponsored by Hamas.

Source: http://www.daylife.com/photo/0dHrdmt04V4KU
 
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chocolatecream4u said:
I agree the post 9/11 reactions and the media's coverage of the mostly the extremist /radical forms of Islam that has brought the negative reactions around the world about Islam and Muslims and that negativity has trickled down to the Muslims that are practicing the religion correctly,and those are the people that are unfairly judged upon.The extremist that refuse to modernize and continue to live in the dark ages has brought that hatred upon such a beautiful religion and again i agree Islam is not too different from the other religions.As we can see the extremist will continue to corrupt other Muslims and will be damn to give in and modernize their religion until then that hatred and negativity and hatred will continue.
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In Islam there is no seperation between church and state.

Under Islamic law, people are not all equal.

A non-Muslim in an Islamic state could never become the president.
 
DenzBenz said:
In Islam there is no seperation between church and state.

Under Islamic law, people are not all equal.

A non-Muslim in an Islamic state could never become the president.
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Léopold Senghor(Roman Catholic), president of Senegal 1960-1980. Senegal's population now - 90% islam and 10% christian. Senegal's Islam population at the time he ruled - 95% of its population.

Tariq Aziz, Iraq's former deputy prime minister, although not a head-of-state, was very influential official in an islamic nation, and yes, he was a christian.
 
Tirkah said:
Léopold Senghor(Roman Catholic), president of Senegal 1960-1980. Senegal's population now - 90% islam and 10% christian. Senegal's Islam population at the time he ruled - 95% of its population.

Tariq Aziz, Iraq's former deputy prime minister, although not a head-of-state, was very influential official in an islamic nation, and yes, he was a christian.
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Most people in Senegal practice Sufi Islam not the real Islam practiced by oppressive Islamic states. Those are only a few exceptions most Islamic countries are intolerant of non-Muslims and there are Islamic laws that prove that.
 
DenzBenz said:
Most people in Senegal practice Sufi Islam not the real Islam practiced by oppressive Islamic states. Those are only a few exceptions most Islamic countries are intolerant of non-Muslims and there are Islamic laws that prove that.
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Define "real" Islam? Sufism is basically Arabic pagan beliefs mixed with Islamic teachings. They are all branches of Islam, be it Wahabi, Sunni, Shi'a, and others no matter the discrepancies.
 
DenzBenz said:
In Islam there is no seperation between church and state.

Under Islamic law, people are not all equal.

A non-Muslim in an Islamic state could never become the president.
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A non-Anglican can not become head of State in Britain either !
 
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