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Superman and Captain America both had the same issue that Ultron touched on though. They want to protect the world, but they didn't want it to change... How is humanity saved if it's not allowed to…evolve?
 
darkcurry said:
Superman and Captain America both had the same issue that Ultron touched on though. They want to protect the world, but they didn't want it to change... How is humanity saved if it's not allowed to…evolve?
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If you notice the vast majority of Superman's heroics involve saving small groups of people from immediate danger, and fighting supervillains. Most versions of Superman don't get involved in national politics and they don't intervene in military conflicts unless one side was committing war crimes. (WW2 comic don't count because they were made as propaganda) Captain America is the same way, the man is 100 years old, so you know there are things about the modern world he doesn't approve of, but he never pushes his politics or belief system on anyone, he just wants to fight injustice and to protect the weak.
 
darkcurry said:
Superman and Captain America both had the same issue that Ultron touched on though. They want to protect the world, but they didn't want it to change... How is humanity saved if it's not allowed to…evolve?
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An interesting thought, but I disagree with Ultron. Both heroes desperately want the world to change, for the better. They believe that humanity's evolution is best when it's upward and not self-destructive.

Besides, Ultron is a sociopath. His idea of improving the world is to murder lots of it's innocent residents. Maybe not the best source of quotable wisdom lol.
 
Thump said:
If you notice the vast majority of Superman's heroics involve saving small groups of people from immediate danger, and fighting supervillains. Most versions of Superman don't get involved in national politics and they don't intervene in military conflicts unless one side was committing war crimes. (WW2 comic don't count because they were made as propaganda) Captain America is the same way, the man is 100 years old, so you know there are things about the modern world he doesn't approve of, but he never pushes his politics or belief system on anyone, he just wants to fight injustice and to protect the weak.
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qaz1 said:
An interesting thought, but I disagree with Ultron. Both heroes desperately want the world to change, for the better. They believe that humanity's evolution is best when it's upward and not self-destructive.

Besides, Ultron is a sociopath. His idea of improving the world is to murder lots of it's innocent residents. Maybe not the best source of quotable wisdom lol.
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Superman and Captain America in real life would get ate up emotionally by how this world is. They shield a lot of these things from them which is why they don't get involve because it is protocol to always ignore the top elite in their stories and basically go after small time earth criminals and the only time they go after the big ones are the Aliens looking to invade the planet.
 
darkcurry said:
Superman and Captain America in real life would get ate up emotionally by how this world is. They shield a lot of these things from them which is why they don't get involve because it is protocol to always ignore the top elite in their stories and basically go after small time earth criminals and the only time they go after the big ones are the Aliens looking to invade the planet.
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Well there are myriad reasons that the comics focus on the stories that they do. But the fact that a certain "level" of criminal is typical to their stories doesn't mean that they couldn't handle others. The CA: Winter Soldier movie addressed this to some extent. But CA and Superman are the best to their cores. The fact that they are who they are means they absolutely wouldn't "get are up emotionally about how this world is," at least not to an insurmountable degree.

Bottom line: if you can find decent writers, those higher-level enemies are no problem.

HOWEVER, an interesting "real world" superhero movie could be about a CA/Superman type who purposely avoids larger problems because he's too conflicted/fragile/oblivious/afraid/whatever to actually handle them. But that character wouldn't be close Superman or Captain America.
 
qaz1 said:
Well there are myriad reasons that the comics focus on the stories that they do. But the fact that a certain "level" of criminal is typical to their stories doesn't mean that they couldn't handle others. The CA: Winter Soldier movie addressed this to some extent. But CA and Superman are the best to their cores. The fact that they are who they are means they absolutely wouldn't "get are up emotionally about how this world is," at least not to an insurmountable degree.

Bottom line: if you can find decent writers, those higher-level enemies are no problem.

HOWEVER, an interesting "real world" superhero movie could be about a CA/Superman type who purposely avoids larger problems because he's too conflicted/fragile/oblivious/afraid/whatever to actually handle them. But that character wouldn't be close Superman or Captain America.
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I'm thinking of Brightburn. That would be probably a more realistic story of a being from another planet growing up on earth.
 
darkcurry said:
I'm thinking of Brightburn. That would be probably a more realistic story of a being from another planet growing up on earth.
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I think we all tend to find the doomsday scenario more likely lol. But I completely agree to the extent that it's tough to imagine anyone having as strong and sterling a moral fiber as Cap or Superman. Then again, it's also way more likely that someone trying to be Batman would end up more like Rainn Wilson's character in Super.
 
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I think this means that the actual apocalypse is coming.


Holy shit, Supernatural is ending
No longer will the Winchester brothers save people or hunt things, for CW’s insanely long-running Supernatural will come to an end following its 15th season, which is set to air next year.

Stars Jared Padalecki, Jensen Ackles, and Misha Collins took to Instagram with the announcement. “We just told the crew that even though we’re very excited to be moving into our 15th season, it will be our last,” Ackles said. “15 years of a show that has certainly changed my life, I know it’s changed these two guys’ lives, and we just wanted you to here from us that though we’re excited about next year, it will be the finale.”

Paladecki added, “We’ve cried some tears and we’ll cry some more, but we’re grateful and we’re going to work all that emotion into next season.”

Eric Kripke’s monster-of-the-week show, which debuted in 2005, follows two hunky brothers, Sam and Dean Winchester, as they spar with the paranormal from the front seat of their 1967 Chevy Impala. A cornerstone of The CW, the show has developed a massive fanbase, spawning Supernatural fan conventions and an abundance of creepily incestual fan fiction. It was renewed for a 20-episode 15th season in January.

Supernatural helped turn The CW into the teen-leaning juggernaut that it now is. Shows like Riverdale, Supergirl, and Legends Of Tomorrow currently call it home, and a huge slate of upcoming projects include a Lost Boysreboot and spin-offs of both Riverdale and Jane The Virgin. The loss of the Winchesters will be palpable, but The CW is going to be just fine.

[via Variety]
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Below is a new Shazam movie clip in which Billy Batson tries to explain to Darla how he was turned into a superhero.


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darkcurry said:
Superman and Captain America in real life would get ate up emotionally by how this world is. They shield a lot of these things from them which is why they don't get involve because it is protocol to always ignore the top elite in their stories and basically go after small time earth criminals and the only time they go after the big ones are the Aliens looking to invade the planet.
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Worst kind of heroes Batman included they all fight to keep the oppressive status quo that only benefits the few
 
The Dark King said:
I'm saying wouldn't that be how most people talk about him? As a kid it sounds cool "good guy" beating up "bad guys" then as an adult you realize that asshole is just another rich white guy taking out his frustrations on the poor. Get therapy.
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For sociopaths economic standing is irrelevant, like that dude that was kicking that 78 year old lady in the head on the Bronx train. I would have released him of all his debts.
 
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