NFL QB National Anthem Protest

[Beasty]

That actually reminds me of the Lena Dunham thread.

Exactly and that's not even the half of it. Who needs the problems of Odell without the millions. lol. I just had a busted chick staring me down at the gym a few hours ago while I was doing squats. No telling what she posted later on twitter. :smt043

Well Australia is called The Lucky Country. Plus Americans are extremely popular. An American would be very welcomed into the workforce. If you did not have a job there you pretty much could find a woman who would take care of you, as long as you didn't fuck around on her.
But human nature as it is, you'd screw it up and she'd catch you in bed with her friend.
And l'm not really joking.

The reason men are not flocking there (but many want to.. I remember there was on average five AWOL's a mnth) is because it's very far away and they have extremely strict immigration laws.

Aussie men are generally not posessive or jealous. They are not like American men who want you to be their girl...Aussie men rather enjoy the pub with their mates. So they'd barely notice or care if you were wifing up Aussie women. They'd probably try to steal you to come join the boys at the pub.
Naturally exceptions exist.

What concerns me is the reason for them strict immigration laws. A black man can get in but he still has to deal with the reality that led to those strict immigration laws. If it was racism, he would still be living in a racist country.

The last thing I want or need is a woman taking care of me. Especially in an environment like that where she knows countless women are trying to get at you. How much fun do you really think that would that be?? :smt108 It's a gross over simplification to think that all would be well if you simply did not fuck around. I'm sure I would like to hang with the fellas at the pub sometimes, wait let me beg my wife to let me join you guys. Maybe I should ask her to join us, what if she says yes? Fuck it I'll just stay home.

I know enough about finance that I could actually earn my keep by just flipping a rich woman's money, but I still don't think that would work well in that type of environment. It also has an emotional aspect to it because it is money and a lot of people don't really understand what you are doing. Who would want to deal with that noise at home?

 

[goodlove8]

Well l have here and there and Lippy did one but it was less discussion and more pics. Besides, some of the women here tried to discuss the issues of being a woman and were argued with and dismissed.

I do agree it is mostly talk of racism, but there is also some collective negative talk of WP in general, unless you "are a (blindly, always) down WP". As we see, you can't even be black and have an alternate view without being called all sorts of racial names.
I recall we had a new member who eventually posted in a thread on the inequities here, that she was afraid to give her opinion because she would be misconstrued and jumped on, so she never posted in the news topic threads. That's sad but not surprising. I'm sure lot's are scared to speak their POV or are scared away.
Nothing is a one-way street when it comes to human interactions and reactions here in the U.S, so there can't really be serious discussion by all until that is understood.

Yes, you do get called rotten names anytime you show support for women when most here won't (including by a couple of women)..it's actually quite comforting knowing you don't follow mob rule..and you never have.

Yep..it's a sausage fest. But l think there's a couple of guys here who like it that way. :???:

I can understand you point on the wp issue. I believe Ii posted that statement close to that in that every fucking thread is about race . Sometimes its about race for the sake of it. Example "BM dating fat ww". I'm like "why talk about that?"

Yeah I think the dudes forget they are dating ww. At the same time , it is an issue to be discuss but every other thread...my goodness!!!!!!!

 

[goodlove8]

Well l have here and there and Lippy did one but it was less discussion and more pics. Besides, some of the women here tried to discuss the issues of being a woman and were argued with and dismissed.

I do agree it is mostly talk of racism, but there is also some collective negative talk of WP in general, unless you "are a (blindly, always) down WP". As we see, you can't even be black and have an alternate view without being called all sorts of racial names.
I recall we had a new member who eventually posted in a thread on the inequities here, that she was afraid to give her opinion because she would be misconstrued and jumped on, so she never posted in the news topic threads. That's sad but not surprising. I'm sure lot's are scared to speak their POV or are scared away.
Nothing is a one-way street when it comes to human interactions and reactions here in the U.S, so there can't really be serious discussion by all until that is understood.

Yes, you do get called rotten names anytime you show support for women when most here won't (including by a couple of women)..it's actually quite comforting knowing you don't follow mob rule..and you never have.

Yep..it's a sausage fest. But l think there's a couple of guys here who like it that way. :???:

Oh the ww issue. I've started threads trying to get ww pov and no one replied or whatever so.....

But yet ww get shouted out all the time and I'm like "really?"

In regards to the dudes having other points of views....yeah we are homogeneous thinkers but damn some of the alternative thinkers are way .....left field. Example trying to infer that if a BM doesn't carry himself in a preferred manner deserve to get killedd by the cops/Zimmerman is suspected

It's obvious when a wp who does something worse than a BM but lives (face eater) and doesn't have shit to say is suspected.v

 

[ColiBreh1]

This forum has black men of all types here. From poor to upper middle class and maybe even rich. Christians and Atheists. Some with degrees and some without. Civilians and soldiers, too. The bkack male presence on this sight runs the socio and economic gamut. And, we're all saying the same thing; we support what CK did because we recognize there is a problem that isn't being corrected through normal channels.

Now, Bliss, with that kind of consensus, why can't you, at the very least, entertain the idea that our collective experience is valid and we have a legitimate demand that things change by almost any means necessary? Most of us were born here with roots that date back since the slave trade. What gives you, a white, female foreigner, the authority to negate our agency in this matter and insist that we don't know what we're talking about?

Either you're trolling us or you don't value our intelect, experience or judgment. Which is it? Because, I really don't see how a woman who claims to like black men can be so dismissive of our thoughts and overall cultural agency. Or, does your attraction to black men end at the physical? In other words, you like how we look, but not how we think? If that's the case, then be honest with yourself and everyone here. That way, we all know what we're dealing with, can agree to disagree and move on.

WTF, Bliss is a foreign chick???!!! How is Bliss gonna be an immigrant talking to us about patriotism??!!

 

[Beasty]

WTF, Bliss is a foreign chick???!!! How is Bliss gonna be an immigrant talking to us about patriotism??!!

 

[4north1side2]

WTF, Bliss is a foreign chick???!!! How is Bliss gonna be an immigrant talking to us about patriotism??!!

Interesting, bliss accounts for 19% of the posts in this thread. Imagine what she could do with all of that idle time if she focused not trying to push her agenda down everyone's throat but instead on positive subjects with no hidden motives.

 

[Bliss]

WTF, Bliss is a foreign chick???!!! How is Bliss gonna be an immigrant talking to us about patriotism??!!

Interestingly, I've been an American longer than some of the men in here gabbing to me.

You're in a perfect position for a bird to shit on you.

 

[ColiBreh1]

Well if you are a person of color migrating to Australia and many like it, my God the privileges are ri-dick-u-lous! Ask a Black man..he'll tell you.

Are you sure? I've always heard Australia is racist AF. What are privileges BM have in Australia?

I doubt this. There is a reason why black men are not flocking there by the bus load. Having a favorable advantage in the dating pool is a sorry reason to relocate. The jealousy of the other people there men and women alike will bite you in the ass, that I can almost promise by simply understanding human nature and supply/demand dynamics. I dare someone here to move there with that grass is greener mentality.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[The Dark King]

This forum has black men of all types here. From poor to upper middle class and maybe even rich. Christians and Atheists. Some with degrees and some without. Civilians and soldiers, too. The bkack male presence on this sight runs the socio and economic gamut. And, we're all saying the same thing; we support what CK did because we recognize there is a problem that isn't being corrected through normal channels.

Now, Bliss, with that kind of consensus, why can't you, at the very least, entertain the idea that our collective experience is valid and we have a legitimate demand that things change by almost any means necessary? Most of us were born here with roots that date back since the slave trade. What gives you, a white, female foreigner, the authority to negate our agency in this matter and insist that we don't know what we're talking about?

Either you're trolling us or you don't value our intelect, experience or judgment. Which is it? Because, I really don't see how a woman who claims to like black men can be so dismissive of our thoughts and overall cultural agency. Or, does your attraction to black men end at the physical? In other words, you like how we look, but not how we think? If that's the case, then be honest with yourself and everyone here. That way, we all know what we're dealing with, can agree to disagree and move on.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to samson1701 again

 

[Bliss]

Are you sure? I've always heard Australia is racist AF. What are privileges BM have in Australia?

I guess double entendre's elude you. Ecch.. another North.

So tell me stories you've heard of how Australia is racist as fuck.

Oh, btw, am l allowed to respond to you or will this count towards my percentile.. :smt024

 

[The Dark King]

Well l believe your problem lies in the fact that you think I'm negating your opinion when I'm absolutely not. If you bothered to read, I completely understand and support where Colin is coming from and his right to protest injustices, I just don't like the method he used - disrespecting the flag. It's got nothing to do with keeping him quiet, it's the fact that l and many others wonder how do you protest the flag that allows you to protest? That's my point and that's always been my point.
And l'm entitled to it.
So do you not see that it is in fact you attempting to negate my opinion?

As a foreigner, It is my very position as one that afforded me the privelidge to appreciate this country's Constitution. I came here somewhat green, but lived a grinding life enough to know and see how this country plays out. So attempting to dismiss me as some "uninformed foreigner" is patronizing to say the least. I feel that anyone who disagrees with you guys in here over the flag and CK's handling of it, is deemed a racist. Why? For respecting the flag? Oh well. You don't have to and l want to. So stalemate it is.

Can you please knock it off with the "sexual/physical" inference. When I see you defer to that easy line of thinking, then I know that you're not intellectualizing my presence here at all. I live in the News section, I correspond and interact with some really Incredible minds and I am constantly telling them that. I'm not in the men's locker I mean the women's locker room constantly posting naked pics of black men's dicks and assholes. I'm not doing that, so really and I mean this in a nice way and I'm very calm about it, miss me with that.

He didn't stand for the anthem he didn't burn the stupid thing and if you were a true patriot as you claim to be then no one who actually believes in the promise of this country should be standing at time like this especially to that song. Listen to that third verse and tell me how patriotic that bs is again

 

[The Dark King]

That's generally how white supremacy works, Samson. The goal is to ignore the opinions of those suffering their whole lives. That is normally when white people tell a story about how easy things are if they work hard while simultaneously ignoring the institutionalized privilege they wield. I think the biggest lie that white supremacy ever told, was that white supremacists all have southern accents and wear sheets or are all skinheads.

The reality is that they are those who constantly tone-police black people when we protest, constantly derail our issues, constantly disapprove while never experiencing life as a black person in America. It amazes me how many white supremacists critique the method of protest that black people use. It's always been this way, and that is the reality. They were against MLK, against Ali, against Jackie and everyone else.

White supremacy isn't just burning crosses and blowing up churches. White supremacy is trying to silence black people by disagreeing with their method to equality, while ignoring the fact that what black people face is something you know you will never have to face. This is why we get upset with Fox News, and people of that sort. The reality is, it isn't a white person's place to tell black people what they can and cannot do to protest and gain equality. Doing so is the most common form of white supremacy. One that has always existed and never seems to go away.

This is assuming that said protest doesn't involve people killing someone.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to meowkittenmeow again.

 

[The Dark King]

I had to write that post quickly because I didn't have much free time at work.

I was talking to a mother of one of my girl scouts a couple of years ago and they're from India and she was explaining to me that many get their loans from other Indians. They act as each others' banks.

Most small businesses around me are owned by them.

This is very true out here they own most of the Subways Dunkin Donuts and 7-11s out here

 

[Bliss]

He didn't stand for the anthem he didn't burn the stupid thing and if you were a true patriot as you claim to be then no one who actually believes in the promise of this country should be standing at time like this especially to that song. Listen to that third verse and tell me how patriotic that bs is again

The third verse that was referencing the British Soldiers? Contrary to your belief, you don't own the word slave in poetry.

 

[Bliss]

In fact, here's the whole poem.

O say can you see, by the dawn’s early light,
What so proudly we hail’d at the twilight’s last gleaming,
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight
O’er the ramparts we watch’d were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket’s red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there,
O say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep
Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream,
’Tis the star-spangled banner—O long may it wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
A home and a Country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash’d out their foul footstep’s pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O thus be it ever when freemen shall stand
Between their lov’d home and the war’s desolation!
Blest with vict’ry and peace may the heav’n rescued land
Praise the power that hath made and preserv’d us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto – “In God is our trust,”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

 

[GFunk]

Are you sure? I've always heard Australia is racist AF. What are privileges BM have in Australia?


My thoughts exactly.

I haven't done much research but I have heard the same and how the indigenous people have been treated poorly out there.

 

[The Dark King]

The third verse that was referencing the British Soldiers? Contrary to your belief, you don't own the word slave in poetry.

Oh boy ok Bliss. So even if you want to make the flimsy ass argument that white people were slaves too more specifically the Irish, does that mean there isn't a legitimate gripe?
And as far as this country is concerned black people own trade marked and have complete license over that shit. And not because we are the only ones oppressed, not even close, but we are the most visibly oppressed and we are constantly reminded that this country as a whole is ok with oppression. Lately I have been paying more attention to the plight of all oppressed people from transgendered people to Americans of various origins and one thing I realize. It all starts with us as black people, if this country and it's people keep turning a blind eye to what happens to us we are giving the ok that it can and should happen to everyone. It never ever stops on with one group, everyone knew Hitler hating Jews didn't stop there, he wasn't going to destroy Jews and let blacks and Cambodians slide.
More importantly at what point do we actually practice the idea that all men and women are created equal, that we all have an inalienable right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. At point does it become your patriotic duty to see an injustice happen to one American and realize it can easily be you at any moment not hiding behind the illusion of whiteness. Because its not about race, it never has been. It's about powerful tricking some of the oppressed that they too aren't oppressed. It should make everyone sick that people are killed by government paid employees and never facing accountability. But hey it's all about that flag huh.

 

[GFunk]

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This is very true out here they own most of the Subways Dunkin Donuts and 7-11s out here

Yeah, I noticed that a lot too.

 

[The Dark King]

Yeah, I noticed that a lot too.

Not mad at them they see an opportunity and they jump on it.

I hate that I can't seem to get people of our own race to do the same. It's frustrating as hell. I want us to buy up some of this cheap real estate in areas where the vast majority of the population is us. Unfortunately every asshole wants to be a boss and get some quick money.

 

[GFunk]

Not mad at them they see an opportunity and they jump on it.

I hate that I can't seem to get people of our own race to do the same. It's frustrating as hell. I want us to buy up some of this cheap real estate in areas where the vast majority of the population is us. Unfortunately every asshole wants to be a boss and get some quick money.

Yeah, I would like to see more black folks with that "hustle hard" mentality apply that to business and property. We own barbershops and beauty salons, but Asians are killing it in the beauty supply stores that cater to mostly black people.