Chicago: Experiencing Shootings every week, Going Unnoticed

Beasty said:
Because they are the ones you criticized. Remember? LOL
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Again..show me where l criticized. I said several times to you that understand the movement. What l don't understand is the non inclusion of black lives murdered by non-cops. That's what brings many cops to the community.
 
Bookworm616 said:
Typical liberal response:

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You have no problem demeaning and criticizing other people on this board, and when people ask for YOUR input on solutions, you just deflect deflect deflect and turn it back on them. You and another prominent member are very good and deflection.

Have a good day.
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The typical response is to ask for solutions. Any solution that is outside of looking in the mirror is what they will accept.
 
andreboba said:
70 cops killed in the line of duty, but only a quarter from gunfire.

Cops most of all seem worried about encountering suspects with firearms, which is part of the reason they are inclined to used excessive force in many interactions with the public.

I'm assuming the rest were killed from being hit by vehicles, knives, blunt force of some kind or something just really random and not considered a typical threat for most law enforcement.

BTW I was commenting more about the link you posted, I never thought it was your opinion.
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I replied that because you said to me.. "You don't see a problem with the mentality of this kind of training??"

Btw, you said...
"Cops most of all seem worried about encountering suspects with firearms, which is part of the reason they are inclined to used excessive force in many interactions with the public."
Here, you're reiterating what the cop said in the Psychology Today article above.

FYI, this expression goes as far back as the early 70's...

"..31 January 1973, New York (NY) Times, “Official Ban Ignored: Police Carry Extra Guns Despite Department Ban Weapons Carried Junkies With Weapons” by Christopher S. Wren, pg. 85:
“We have been told that if we get caught in the car with anything other than a .38, we’ll have charges brought against us,” said one young patrolman from the 83d Precinct, which covers the Bushwick section of Brooklyn. “But it’s better to be judged by 12 men than carried by six. That’s the motto around here.”
 
Bliss said:
Again.. Before you comment, follow the conversation that was being discussed.

DudeNY said if cops are held criminally accountable they will think of this and not shoot, and l re-noted that cops likely won't stop to ponder that..because of their mantra and training.
It's not me saying it, bloomin' hell.
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No... That's not what I said... Below is what I said which is about holding them accountable for wrongdoing/police brutality. As of now... More often than not they're given the benefit of the doubt solely on the strength that they're police officers and rarely held accountable. This is the main reason BLM exists today, but of course some want to make them out to be a hate group and/or throw up smoke screens about black on black crime to divert attention from the police' role in this problem.

DudeNY12 said:
I'd agree that accountability won't magically stop the unlawful behavior, but accountability itself can be a very powerful tool. If they know that they're likely to be in trouble, lose jobs/pension and so on... I bet a lot of police officers would choose to fly right.
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Paniro187 said:
There's jobs. Not jobs they want but there are jobs and school to be had for free. No one HAS to rob and steal and kill
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We've had this conversation before if there is one job for every four people what do the other three do?
I always wonder if we spent as much time trying to fix that problem instead of policing people where would be
Instead of a war on poverty
We got a war on drugs so the police can bother me.
 
The Dark King said:
We've had this conversation before if there is one job for every four people what do the other three do?
I always wonder if we spent as much time trying to fix that problem instead of policing people where would be
Instead of a war on poverty
We got a war on drugs so the police can bother me.
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Where did you get the one job for four people number? So you're telling me that all the thugs on the corner were on a job hunt before they settled into the thug life? GTFO lol
 
Paniro187 said:
so what did you not having a criminal record have to do with it?
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You suggested we look in the mirror. You have a problem with the crime in Chicago.......so you tell me what looking in the mirror was supposed to be about.

I like what I see "in the mirror" what about you?
 
Beasty said:
You suggested we look in the mirror. You have a problem with the crime in Chicago.......so you tell me what looking in the mirror was supposed to be about.

I like what I see "in the mirror" what about you?
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Wasn't talking about you particularly I'm saying the solution for the issues going on there are largely staring right back at them in the mirror. Stop fucking poisoning your people stop shooting your people. Etc etc. wasn't talking about you you seem to have your shit together.
 
Paniro187 said:
Where did you get the one job for four people number? So you're telling me that all the thugs on the corner were on a job hunt before they settled into the thug life? GTFO lol
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No but if I see everyone around me struggling and see a lot of people trying but failing the traditional way selling drugs might seem attractive.
 
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