Blacks are terrible tippers?

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I think one crucial reason for this is because of income inequality. Our median income is lower than people of other racial groups, so it would actually make sense for us not to tip when going out to eat. Hispanics have the same financial problem (income inequality), so they probably wouldn't give tips either.

If everyone's incomes were the same and higher than they are today, black people would have an inclination to tip.

 

I haven't read every post, but do most people understand that servers often make far less than minimum wage because they are in a business that relies on tips? I saw that Espy mentioned this in an earler post. So where the employee working at Mickey D's is making minimum wage, the employee at a restaurant is making as little as $2.50 an hour and depending on tips to get them to at least the minimum wage/hr. So if a patron refuses to tip on principle (not based on service), you're hurting the server who's just trying to make a living like everybody else. Also, in nicer restaurants or fine dining establishments, the servers have to split tips with the busser and the bartender if the diners ordered drinks from the table.

I say, if you cant afford to tip, don't go out to eat. When I'm deciding what to order, I always figure in 20% for the tip.

 

Then wouldnt the better thing be to put pressure on the owner to pay them more. Tipping people to do their jobs awaysdounded ridiculous to me

 

True, I believe that a solution is for more people to eat at home and learn how to cook their food. The ideal thing for everyone to do is to spend less frequently and when they do spend, they make sure to keep more of their money in their pocket.

 

Then restaurant owners would charge higher prices. No one in the restaurant industry gets paid well unless the restaurant is exclusive and the clientele wealthy. I was the bookkeeper for a fine dining restaurant and some of the line cooks were only making about $2 above minimum wage.

 

That's terrible.

I always give at least 20%.

 

Good for you. So if your job told you that you need to take a cut in your salary, would you still manage to give 20% tips while eating out?

 

100% correct. My brother was a waiter at a 5 star restaurant while in college. You make around $2+ an hour as your base pay and the rest is tips. At the end of the night you have to give the bartender and busboys a percent of your tips. You also had to declare your tips for reporting to the IRS. It is kind of a shit deal if the restaurant isn't top flight or super busy. You can make less than minimun. It's an industry hosing of the waiters. My brother is super friendly, funny and way good looking. He did awesome but for those who make it their living it's very uncertain pay.

You can tip or you can pay more for the total cost of your meal. They will just increase prices. You sound cheap. You must fit the stereotype.

 

Seeing how a lot of waiters and waitresses make most of their money from tips (I think they generally make way below minimum wage), I tip 20% as long as they aren't bad. If they aren't great I'll do 15%. Never had service so bad I felt a tip wasn't warranted.

As for people complaining about not wanting to pay a tip because it's too expensive, if that's the case then don't eat out.

 

Well, I consider myself a ok tipper. A X of mine broke the whole "waitress" shit down (her occupation). So I've generally tipped 15-20%. With an occasional 25-30% depending on the service. I never leave $0. If the service is terrible, change is the prize. If I experience racial discrimination, pennies it is.

 

Having worked in the food service industry for a number of years during my teenage and early 20’s, I can say that I know first-hand why I believe giving some kind of gratuity is essential in the restaurant environment.

I usually start around 20% but I’m one who normally goes above and beyond when it comes to tipping because I’m well aware of the stereotype and I’ve been on that side of the counter.

However if the service is shitty then I’ll let them know why I left them a $0.45 tip and why I won’t be returning to their place of business.

 

If I took a cut in pay, I would stay home and cook rather than go out for a meal and short-change the server. Would you ask the restaurant to charge you half price for your meal because you took a cut in pay? I didnt think so.

 

Well you sound obnoxius and ignorant JC. I just never understood paying extra for a service despite performance. If you go above and beyond fine but a tip because you did what I paid for sounds stupid. I tip to avoid these conversations in public but I dont get it. Snd what makes a service tip worthy? Why isnt common practice to tip those who pump your gas or people who deliver packages. Im not knocking serverd I just dont get it.

 

What is it you don't get about the server being paid a wage of $2.30 an hour to live on?? Could you feed yourself or yourself and your family on that amount??

If you are satisfied not tipping them knowing you make a good wage, can eat out and just fed your face, then don't want to tip to get them at least to minimum wage then you are cheap.Eeat at McDonalds or Wendys. Fast food workers at least make minimum wage and no tip is inferred.

Gas station employees make more than minimum. Restaurant workers are the only ones to my knowledge that the law allows legally less than minimum because of tips.

 

Then simple logic would suggest pressuring the employers to pay just wages so tips arent needed. Theres a wage minimum for a reason. I shouldnt be demonized because an employer doesnt want to pay their staff accordingly. What other industry would be allowed to operate that way? Buying clothes presents the same problem. The people making your clothes are getting paid dollars per day not hours. Are ypu looking for ways to tip them to balance the social scales? Are you now the cheap one? Should you stay your ass at home and learn to sow?

 

Sew? Are you sure you are in grad school?

Clothes made in the US fall under US wage guidelines. They would not make $1 an hour. Google restaurant workers wages and educate yourself.

 

Did I get on you for spelling eat with two Es? What the fuck is up your butt. Enough with the snide remarks and insults. Be an example show some maturity. I am aware of what waiters and waitresses make my arguement is why does it fall on consumers to pay more when theres a minimum wage. Why are you ok with employers under paying their employees?
A lot of the employees working in US restaurants arent legally allowed to work but youre concerbed about them getting paid fairly.

 

Haha oh shit

 

And then you would be bitching about the high cost of dining out. When you consider all the people who have to be paid to put one meal on the table, you would understand why servers work for tips. The consumer will pay one way or the other. Higher meal prices or tips for the servers.