Kirstie Alley and her new boyfriend

MrFantastic said:
I'm gonna comment anyway. In my experience bw like most black people love things like nice cars and nice clothes very momentary and value depreciative things. WW however love lifestyle. Nice vacations every few months, a nice home in a nice area, things that don't really scream look at me when you're out and about but still cost a hell of a lot of money.
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I think that your analogies are really off base on this one. Maybe the stereotypical low income, uneducated black woman may overvalue "depreciable" assets. However, I don't think that it applies to women of any race outside of that stereotype.

The average middle class WW has never had "nice vacations every few months". They are too busy working, live from pay check to pay check, try to put away something for a rainy day, or have obligations that don't allow such a life style. I think any woman would be happy to have ONE vacation a year, or even every other year if you want to go outside the U.S. That's the state of middle class America, in the good times.

Most women, IMO, want a home in a nice area. The hurdle to attaining that home is usually a lack of financial means, and not the desire.
 
swirlman07 said:
I think that your analogies are really off base on this one. Maybe the stereotypical low income, uneducated black woman may overvalue "depreciable" assets. However, I don't think that it applies to women of any race outside of that stereotype.

The average middle class WW has never had "nice vacations every few months". They are too busy working, live from pay check to pay check, try to put away something for a rainy day, or have obligations that don't allow such a life style. I think any woman would be happy to have ONE vacation a year, or even every other year if you want to go outside the U.S. That's the state of middle class America, in the good times.

Most women, IMO, want a home in a nice area. The hurdle to attaining that home is usually a lack of financial means, and not the desire.
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Well said, SM. :smt023
 
swirlman07 said:
I think that your analogies are really off base on this one. Maybe the stereotypical low income, uneducated black woman may overvalue "depreciable" assets. However, I don't think that it applies to women of any race outside of that stereotype.

The average middle class WW has never had "nice vacations every few months". They are too busy working, live from pay check to pay check, try to put away something for a rainy day, or have obligations that don't allow such a life style. I think any woman would be happy to have ONE vacation a year, or even every other year if you want to go outside the U.S. That's the state of middle class America, in the good times.

Most women, IMO, want a home in a nice area. The hurdle to attaining that home is usually a lack of financial means, and not the desire.
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Please read my posts after that one you too Tam since you wanna be Johnny cosign. Smh lol
 
MrFantastic said:
Oh boy I gotta break it down for the slow kids again. Everyone wants all the things I mentioned but there are varying emphasis shown socially when dealing with ww and bw generally speaking of course. For example you'd be hard pressed to find a bw who'd be as excited about a trip to France as she would a pair of new gucci air force ones with matching handbag. Both cost the same but both are valued differently. Get it now( that was directed at you alone Whik)
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I think that this explanation is still off, and is based on the stereotype of both women, rather than reality. I didn't even mention the stereotype about black people in general preferring depreciable assets. This is true, only to the extent, that most of America likes to keep up with the Joneses. Otherwise, it's my experience that middle class mature black people have their financial priorities as straight as any other race.
 
swirlman07 said:
I think that this explanation is still off, and is based on the stereotype of both women, rather than reality. I didn't even mention the stereotype about black people in general preferring depreciable assets. This is true, only to the extent, that most of America likes to keep up with the Joneses. Otherwise, it's my experience that middle class mature black people have their financial priorities as straight as any other race.
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Well said, again. ;)
 
MrFantastic said:
I just want people to be honest. Actually you've pretty much just inspires me to say this. If we even used this board as example most of The US women posting are either overweight and/or past their best dating years(I won't name names because that's cruel) where as the more physically desirable women who like bm are from either Europe Canada or Austraila. So strictly using this board as a microcosm of country at large what would that suggest? To me it suggests that bm are not as valued here in the US as we are abroad which begs to ask why?
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QFT Glad to see that someone is still keepin' it real around here.
 
swirlman07 said:
I think that this explanation is still off, and is based on the stereotype of both women, rather than reality. I didn't even mention the stereotype about black people in general preferring depreciable assets. This is true, only to the extent, that most of America likes to keep up with the Joneses. Otherwise, it's my experience that middle class mature black people have their financial priorities as straight as any other race.
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We as a people are so much more likely to spend money on things that never appreciate over time. The black dollar is rarely flipped in our neighborhoods we love to buy other people's disposable goods. Living in the great melting pot that is New York I can say most people are label whores but as far as priorities are concerned I observe black people in particular putting disposable goods at the top of their list. Like I said I don't see anyone else buying 300 dollar throwback jersies and 40 dollar fitted caps. The black middle class are definitely more likely to buy an infinite that costs 400 bucks a month and still live in their parents house.
It definitely comes from so many years of not having shit and not being allowed to have shit the collective loves to buy shit to prove they can. Its typical for Americans to over reach but its what they spend their money on is what I'm focusing on that's all.
 
all we need now is rosie o donnell and roseanne barr, with their new black boyfriends

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pettyofficerj said:
all we need now is rosie o donnell and roseanne barr, with their new black boyfriends

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How dare you? Don't you know those old broads still look fierce for their age? Don't hate because you have infantile fantasies of young wanna be super models. Grow up Petty.
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MrFantastic said:
How dare you know those old broads still look fierce for their age? Don't hate because you have infantile fantasies of young wanna be super models. Grow up Petty.
Snap!
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lol

if i spend all this time working out, grooming, and busting my ass to look good, why the fuck would i chase freddy kreuger?

shit works both ways, but some women still lust after hard-body mothafuckas regardless of how they look themselves:smt015
 
pettyofficerj said:
lol

if i spend all this time working out, grooming, and busting my ass to look good, why the fuck would i chase freddy kreuger?

shit works both ways, but some women still lust after hard-body mothafuckas regardless of how they look themselves:smt015
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Well to be honest and fair so do a lot of fat broke dudes. They want girls who look like a young Jessica Alba but expect to get her with a pot belly and a bus pass. No bueno. The only thing I do notice is that men generally don't call women shallow for not wanting them based on that criteria alone. We just love throwing hail maries like puff throws parties.
 
Prophet Matthias said:
Man, some of you women are really funny. You keep reaching to accuse people here of hypocrisy, but it ain't happening for you. There ain't no stereotype at play with Whoopi and Danson because the white man isn't forced to date subpar when he steps out of his race like black men are. Mediocre looking white men in the US will always have much better options than even the best looking black men.
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While you have a point when you say white men have more options than black men you are grossly exaggerating when you say mediocre white men get more women than the best looking black men and that black men are forced to date subpar, a decent looking black man will always score, he might have to look harder than he would have to if he was white but good looking white women are always obtainable, there are just too many of them and while the majority of them prefer white men, many of them don't rule out the possibility of dating a black man they find attractive.
 
MrFantastic said:
We as a people are so much more likely to spend money on things that never appreciate over time. The black dollar is rarely flipped in our neighborhoods we love to buy other people's disposable goods. Living in the great melting pot that is New York I can say most people are label whores but as far as priorities are concerned I observe black people in particular putting disposable goods at the top of their list. Like I said I don't see anyone else buying 300 dollar throwback jersies and 40 dollar fitted caps. The black middle class are definitely more likely to buy an infinite that costs 400 bucks a month and still live in their parents house.
It definitely comes from so many years of not having shit and not being allowed to have shit the collective loves to buy shit to prove they can. Its typical for Americans to over reach but its what they spend their money on is what I'm focusing on that's all.
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We as a people applies to a select segment of the black community. Times have changed and my observations as I have traveled throughout the states is that middle class America is much more focused on the same financial priorities as everyone else.

Suggesting that some people, I'm assuming you mean young adult since you mentioned living at their parent's home, buying an infinite is no different than a white middle class young adult buying a tricked out truck, or sports car of whatever toy suits them, and living in their parent's home. That has a much to do with marketers and the trend among the young current generation to want instant gratification. It's not a race related thing at all.

I will agree that the dollars are rarely turn over in the black community. But, that's to be expected because the few small black businesses that exist can't compete with major corporate department stores and big box stores.

I think that part of the disconnect is that you are referring to a segment of the black population, not all middle class people, but young middle class people, under 30. As I said, I agree that spending habits in this group are different, but that it's not race related. It's just a case of different boys having different toys. You move up the age ladder a bit and you will find more mature people who have different perspectives and values, regardless of race, assuming that we are comparing similarly educated middle class people of either race.
 
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pettyofficerj said:
all we need now is rosie o donnell and roseanne barr, with their new black boyfriends

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MrFantastic said:
How dare you? Don't you know those old broads still look fierce for their age? Don't hate because you have infantile fantasies of young wanna be super models. Grow up Petty.
Snap!
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pettyofficerj said:
lol

if i spend all this time working out, grooming, and busting my ass to look good, why the fuck would i chase freddy kreuger?

shit works both ways, but some women still lust after hard-body mothafuckas regardless of how they look themselves:smt015
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


You brothers are bringing it.
 
MrFantastic said:
Well to be honest and fair so do a lot of fat broke dudes. They want girls who look like a young Jessica Alba but expect to get her with a pot belly and a bus pass. No bueno. The only thing I do notice is that men generally don't call women shallow for not wanting them based on that criteria alone. We just love throwing hail maries like puff throws parties.
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did you grow a hairy vagina overnight or something?

you're supposed to be cosigning my shit, not offering alternative viewpoints:p
 
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