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Ol'Skool Classic
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Yeah I think it's a recurring role. With the addition of the Morlocks, we now have 3 different sides to the mutant struggle : Mutant Underground (integration/acceptance), The Inner Circle (separatists/domination) and Morlocks (survivalists/just let us be).
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ColiBreh1
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I found a Business Insider article that shows the raw numbers:
https://www.businessinsider.com/int...age-iron-fist-had-huge-drop-over-time-2018-10
Interest in Netflix's 'Luke Cage' and 'Iron Fist' dropped dramatically over time, and its other Marvel shows could also be in trouble
Travis Clark Oct. 27, 2018, 4:07 PM
- Data from Crimson Hexagon provided to Business Insider shows that social-media buzz for Netflix's Marvel shows has dropped dramatically over time.
- Netflix abruptly canceled "Luke Cage" and "Iron Fist" this month, and the data suggests that "Daredevil" and "Jessica Jones" could also be in trouble.
- Posts on Twitter and Instagram decreased significantly after each shows' first seasons.
Fans of Netflix's Marvel shows were left disappointed and puzzled when the streaming giant abruptly canceled "Iron Fist" and then "Luke Cage" this month.
But interest in the shows had been flagging, and their fate could mean trouble for Netflix's other main Marvel shows, "Daredevil" and "Jessica Jones."
Data provided to Business Insider by consumer-insights company Crimson Hexagon shows that social-media buzz for all four shows has dropped dramatically over time.
Since Netflix doesn't release viewership numbers, social-media data is one of the best alternatives to finding out whether these shows have legs to stand on.
The chart below shows that when the first season of "Luke Cage" premiered in September 2016, there were over 300,000 Twitter and Instagram posts regarding it. That number took a huge dive when the second season was released this June, with less than 50,000 posts.
The same can be said for "Iron Fist." The critically panned series improved slightly in its second season, but social-media reaction was still sparse compared to its first season. When the first season debuted last year, it inspired almost 120,000 posts on Twitter and Instagram. The second season peaked at less than 20,000.
The good news for "Daredevil" and "Jessica Jones" is that the results aren't as dramatic as for "Luke Cage" and "Iron Fist." The bad news is that there is a noticeable pattern in that interest has wavered after the shows' first seasons.
There were nearly 300,000 posts on Twitter and Instagram for the first season of "Jessica Jones." That was cut in half when the second season was released this year.
"Daredevil," the longest-running Netflix Marvel show so far at three seasons, has seen a drop in social-media buzz over time, but less so than the other shows. The first season in 2015 saw nearly 275,000 posts, while season two saw a little over 200,000. That's not a huge drop, and the recently released third season inspired around 75,000 posts halfway through October, meaning that number could increase by month's end.
If any of the shows was safe, it would probably be "Daredevil" based on this data, but the pattern still holds.
Crimson Hexagon also found that sentiment for the four shows has been mostly positive, the highest being for "Daredevil" at 79% and the lowest being for "Iron Fist" at 53%. But it's apparent that buzz around the shows has decreased.
There could be plenty of reasons for why Netflix canceled "Luke Cage" and "Iron Fist."
The Hollywood Reporter reported that "Luke Cage" was canceled due to creative differences. And as Disney, which owns Marvel, prepares to enter the streaming war with its own Netflix competitor next year, it could be changing its strategy in regards to Netflix's Marvel series.
Disney is set to terminate a contract with Netflix at the end of the year, and while it has said that it has no plans to move the shows from Netflix, the competitive landscape of the streaming business could force its hand.
But this data also suggests that audiences just haven't been as interested in the shows as Netflix may have liked, and later seasons didn't generate the excitement of their first seasons.
There is only one season for the other shows, "The Defenders" and "The Punisher," so we couldn't compare data. The second season of "The Punisher" wrapped filming this summer. Only time will tell its fate, and that of "Daredevil" and "Jessica Jones."
TLDR version:
Social Media Impressions of the Marvel Netflix shows
Jessica Jones S1 - 300,000
Jessica Jones S2 - 150,000
Luke Cage S1 - 300,000
Luke Cage S2 - 50,000
Iron Fist S1 - 120,000
Iron Fist S2 - 20,000
Daredevil S1 - 275,000
Daredevil S2 - 200,000
The Dark King
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Fuck this movie. We couldn't get a cool secret agent cartoon nope we gotta get some coon comedy shit where the sauve cool HAS to be a damn bird. Hard pass. One more time fuck this movie.
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ColiBreh1
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This article came out Yesterday on actual Netflix viewing numbers dropoff for Luke Cage
https://screenrant.com/iron-fist-luke-cage-cancelled-reason-netflix-viewer-drop/
TLDR version:
"Luke Cage" & "Iron Fist" lost over 66% of their viewership in their 2nd seasons
https://screenrant.com/iron-fist-luke-cage-cancelled-reason-netflix-viewer-drop/
EXCLUSIVE: Iron Fist & Luke Cage Cancellation Reason Revealed By Netflix Viewer Data
BY THOMAS BACON – ON OCT 31, 2018
Netflix viewing figures provided exclusively to Screen Rant have explained just why the streaming service canceled Iron Fist and Luke Cage. The recent high-profile cancellations left Marvel fans shocked, not least because Netflix pulled the plug on Iron Fist just a month after the release of a much-improved season 2. No reason for the cancellations has ever been officially presented; it's generally believed Iron Fist was canceled because of poor viewing figures, while there are reports of behind-the-scenes conflict between Marvel and Netflix over Luke Cage.
Screen Rant has spoken exclusively to Jumpshot, a San Francisco-based analytics company. Their anonymized global panel tracks five billion actions a day across 100 million devices to deliver insights into online consumer behavior. Jumpshot has looked at the viewing behavior and activity of their US members in order to get a sense of just how the Netflix Originals are performing. There are limitations to this data - it's US-specific and based on clicks rather than viewing habits - but given Netflix's secrecy over ratings, it's probably the best indication available of how viewers are responding to the Marvel shows.
According to Jumpshot, both Iron Fist and Luke Cage lost two-thirds of their viewers between their first and second seasons. Compared to their first seasons, Luke Cage lost 59 percent of its viewers, while Iron Fist lost 64 percent. Jumpshothas provided an index indicating how the different Marvel Netflix shows performed in their first weeks, compared against Daredevil season 2 (the first series they measured). Here's how Iron Fist and Luke Cage look:
- Daredevil season 2: 100
- Luke Cage season 1: 92
- Iron Fist season 1: 80
- Luke Cage season 2: 38
- Iron Fist season 2: 29
These figures give a sense of the sheer scale of the drop in viewership. In the case of Luke Cage, they explain reports that Netflix wanted to renegotiate their deal with Marvel and book a 10-episode series rather than the normal 13 episodes; these shows are expensive, even allowing for New York's generous tax breaks, and the show wasn't getting enough viewers to make a 13-episode series worthwhile. Meanwhile, Iron Fist's cancellation is even easier to understand; although season 2 was praised by viewers and critics alike for having redeemed the character of Danny Rand, it looks as though people just didn't choose to watch it. According to Jumpshot's data, viewership for Iron Fist took less than a month to drop back to baseline levels. That certainly explains the speed with which Netflix canceled the series.
This data is the first solid hint that the partnership between Marvel and Netflix may not be quite so productive as had previously been believed. But is the issue specific to Iron Fist and Luke Cage, or does it affect the entire Marvel Netflix slate? Jumpshot has provided Screen Rant with more exclusive information on all the Marvel Netflix shows, that we'll be exploring in detail over the coming days.
TLDR version:
"Luke Cage" & "Iron Fist" lost over 66% of their viewership in their 2nd seasons
RicardoCooper
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LOVED that 2003 Titans cartoon! Glad it's coming back
RicardoCooper
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Falcon & Winter Soldier Teaming For Disney Streaming Series
Disney’s upcoming streaming service is ramping up its content creation, with Empire writer/executive producer Malcolm Spellman hired to pen a potential limited series that would team two of Marvel’s costumed characters: Winter Soldier and The Falcon.
It is one of several potential series on the service, which is aiming for a late 2019 launch.
10/31/2018
Source: Deadline.com
I bet Marvel saw how Mackie and Stan were in interviews and on the road and figured it would be cool to team them up. Also cool they're getting the big-screen guys to do a mini-series instead of the DC method of having separate TV and movie actors playing the SAME CHARACTER i.e. a TV Flash and movie Flash and so on
And I LOVE Mackie as the Falcon, they play him sweet, better than the comics
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darkcurry
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Here is the tricky thing with that though. How much time are they giving these shows to gain viewership and has viewership went up since they announced the cancellation? Because those shows are still on netflix for you to view.
How do they know if folks was just waiting to watch it when they are ready. Like I watched the rest of Dynasty on Netflix back in September. I think when it comes to online streaming they should give it up to six months before making such decisions. Because not everybody watch these streaming shows in the first week or the first month. I'll be interested to know where the viewership will be now or by the end of the year, because it could rise at any point as long as it is still on their platform and then what.
I think netflix should show you how many views a tv show or movie has like youtube does. They are so secretive about that sort of thing.
The Dark King
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SilverSmith
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Streaming next week: YouTube Originals' sci-fi thriller Origin follows a group of passengers on a spacecraft heading to a distant planet- and immense danger.
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Disney Confirms Loki Series Starring Tom Hiddleston
Thu, Nov 8
From Marvel.com:
Today, the Walt Disney Company announced that its new direct-to-consumer streaming service will be called Disney+. The reveal came today from Disney Chairman and CEO Bob Iger, who also said the service would become available in late 2019.
In addition to the name of the service, Disney also announced that Marvel Studios is developing a series focused on Loki and will star Tom Hiddleston, a fan favorite in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which will be available on Disney+.
https://bit.ly/2FdDBgG
SilverSmith
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National Geographic's "Mars" returns for a second season on Monday (Nov. 12), bringing a fusion of extraterrestrial drama and real-life insights about humanity's future on the Red Planet.
SilverSmith
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“ElseWorlds” crossover teaser trailer shows Oliver Queen’s life as The Flash:
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DC To Celebrate 80 Years of Batman
11/15/18
DC Comics will release two milestone books in March 2019 to commemorate 80 Years of Batman: Detective Comics #1000 and Detective Comics: 80 Years of Batman The Deluxe Edition.
The 96-page Detective Comics #1000 will include an original story by Peter J. Tomasi and artist Doug Mahnke, as well as bonus stories form popular DC names including Geoff Johns, Brian Michael Bendis, Paul Dini, Christopher Priest, Denny O’Neil, Neal Adams, Kelly Jones, Dustin Nguyen, and Alex Maleev. Release date and MSRP were not announced at this time.
Detective Comics: 80 Years of Batman The Deluxe Edition will include a cover by Jim Lee and several unpublished extras including a Paul Levitz story about Bruce Wayne’s early life with art by Denys Cowan, and a look at Bob Kane “ghost” Lew Sayre Schwartz’s original layouts for a Batman story for Detective Comics #200. There will be essays on Batman’s impact from Neil Gaiman, Cory Doctorow, Denny O’Neil, Glen David Gold, former San Diego police chief Shelley Zimmerman and pulp historian Anthony Tollin. The Dark Knight’s most memorable adventures, including the debuts of Robin, Batwoman, Bat-Mite, Batgirl, Two-Face, the Riddler, Clayface and Man-Bat, will be reprinted. It will also include the first adventures of Slam Bradley, Air Wave, the Boy Commandos and the Martian Manhunter. The 300-page hardcover has an MSRP of $29.99. Release is set for March 13.
Batman debuted in Detective Comics #27 in March 1939.
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