Quick question for black guys.

BA said:
That's just how America is.




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At least, this is what Toby Keith says. :smt043

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why aren't i surprised that he's wearing a cowboy hat....????

Ymra said:
What country are you from?
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australia
 
Kunoichi said:
"Justice System: Semi Largest Employer in the US: Prisoners: Cheapest form of Labor".

Yes prisoners are bad -that's usually why they are there. But I theorize there are some very happy people that they are bad and housed away. Better a bad poor man locked away than a poor man. A poor man will suck the welfare system, but a criminal offers cheap labor (you can't be in prison and not work, unless you have a medical condition to excuse you) for a few cents and 3 hots and a cot in return.

I even researched it and was surprised to find how many prisoners are "in" our workforce. One article I found was TEN YEARS old, so imagine today.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/may2000/pris-m08.shtml


These prisoner do the law work for court houses and even built a football field.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10249/1085389-59.stm


I know the overall consensus is "tough titties" but it makes me wonder the agenda sometimes, particularly with the increase in non violent offenders.
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No, that's actually a very good point. I'm even glad you went there first, because much as some more conservative types may think it sounds like a conspiracy theory, I think "coincidences" like this need more explanation than "tough titties".

I mean, the US prison population has been on the rise for decades, particularly since we started the "War on Drugs" and began handing out serious sentences for non-violent drug offenses. And of course, a disproportionate amount of that rising prison population is made up of black men. Racists today still attempt to use this fact to suggest that blacks in general have a greater disposition towards crime or morality, in fact ...

So I'll say again, I always think that something that works out to be so functionally covenient in so many ways ... I think it calls for a little more attention than to just assume it is coincidence. With the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, the Fair Housing Act, the US government officially ended Jim Crow discrimination ... but this is also when our prison-industrial system begins to swell. The huge coincidence is that sending lots of black men to prison serves a lot of the same purposes that Jim Crow did (Allows economic exploitation and oppression, allows functional voter discrimination, allows support for stereotyping black men as dangerous or violent).

Basically, I'm of the opinion that the system needs to change. Don't get me wrong, I'm not absolving everyone in prison for everything they've done. I'm just saying ... until I can believe that a white kid from a wealthy uppper class family and a black kid from the ghetto who both get caught with the same drug will get treated the same by the system? Well, till then I'm at least as concerned with how the system is failing black men, as I am with how black men are failing the system.
 
Trey1540 said:
I've always wanted a white or Latina girlfriend and never really got into black women like the average black man. It's nothing against black women it's just that's always been my preference. But I completely understand exactly where you're coming from. I've seen good young black men that had promising futures and careers throw it all away fucking black women. I have a childhood friend who went to Catholic University and got his degree in bio engineering. All through school black girls ignored his ass. They didn't see any value in him until he started making big money. He ended up marrying this skank after I begged him not to marry because saw she was trouble. He did it anyway and this bitch used him, cheated on him, got him arrested on false charges, and managed get him fired from his job. My man J-Rock (may he rest in peace) also got his life taken away from him for fuckin with a black woman. He was firing up my man AJ sister and she got made and punch him in the face. Rock didn't do nothing to this bitch beside push her little ass down. She went and told AJ that Rock beat her up and AJ came back shot this man 7 times. Now Rock is dead and AJ is doing 45 years in federal prison. These are just a few examples of the many black men who bit the dust fuckin with black women. I say to each their own but I can't see my self ever getting involved with a black chick. I want my brothers who out here taking care of business to get a good thing. I personally don't view most black women as being a good thing.
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Would you date a black latina? I mean by reading this Im confused. If you mean you're attracted to these women culturally speaking, then that makes sense. But if you are speaking in a matter of race then that makes no sense because latino/a is a culture/ethnicity, not a racial group.
 
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Kushton Slater said:
Would you date a black latina? I mean by reading this Im confused. If you mean you're attracted to these women culturally speaking, then that makes sense. But if you are speaking in a matter of race then that makes no sense because latino/a is a culture/ethnicity, not a racial group.
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You know what's so funny? I usually hear this when people, for example, lets say Michael Jordans girlfriend, she is Latina and others will say, no, she's White and then I also hear it when someone like Zoe Saldana calls herself a Latina and people have to say, she's Black, and Latino/a isn't a race.

Then you have people in the middle who aren't Black or White. I don't see anything wrong with calling them Latino/a.
 
Inner Beauty said:
You know what's so funny? I usually hear this when people, for example, lets say Michael Jordans girlfriend, she is Latina and others will say, no, she's White and then I also hear it when someone like Zoe Saldana calls herself a Latina and people have to say, she's Black, and Latino/a isn't a race.

Then you have people in the middle who aren't Black or White. I don't see anything wrong with calling them Latino/a.
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That's racial conditioning. It keeps the racial divide stronger than ever. Those who could be and would be seen as black have an out and those who could be considered white have an in.
 
Inner Beauty said:
You know what's so funny? I usually hear this when people, for example, lets say Michael Jordans girlfriend, she is Latina and others will say, no, she's White and then I also hear it when someone like Zoe Saldana calls herself a Latina and people have to say, she's Black, and Latino/a isn't a race.

Then you have people in the middle who aren't Black or White. I don't see anything wrong with calling them Latino/a.
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Man, that Zoe Saldana chick is a joke. It's people like her that make me have issues with hispanics especially the self-loathing dark skinned ones. She wants to get all offended if anyone calls her "black," but she don't have any problems getting paid seven figures to play black women. In fact, miss "I'm not black, I'm latina" is the most in demand black actress in Hollywood at present. If it's so offensive for her to be called "black," she shouldn't be making a career out of impersonating a black woman.
 
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Frederick said:
Man, that Zoe Saldana chick is a joke. It's people like her that make me have issues with hispanics especially the self-loathing dark skinned ones. She wants to get all offended if anyone calls her "black," but she don't have any problems getting paid seven figures to play black women. In fact, miss "I'm not black, I'm latina" the most in demand black actress in Hollywood at present. If it's so offensive for her to be called "black," so shouldn't be making a career out of impersonating a black woman.
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A lot of Dominicans have that issue....
 
Frederick said:
Man, that Zoe Saldana chick is a joke. It's people like her that make me have issues with hispanics especially the self-loathing dark skinned ones. She wants to get all offended if anyone calls her "black," but she don't have any problems getting paid seven figures to play black women. In fact, miss "I'm not black, I'm latina" is the most in demand black actress in Hollywood at present. If it's so offensive for her to be called "black," she shouldn't be making a career out of impersonating a black woman.
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I'm pretty sure Hell just froze over... I actually agree with Frederick on this.
 
How about Black folks stop calling them "Spanish" , it's like calling Haitians or Coast Ivoirian's "French". :lol:
 
Frederick said:
Man, that Zoe Saldana chick is a joke. It's people like her that make me have issues with hispanics especially the self-loathing dark skinned ones. She wants to get all offended if anyone calls her "black," but she don't have any problems getting paid seven figures to play black women. In fact, miss "I'm not black, I'm latina" the most in demand black actress in Hollywood at present. If it's so offensive for her to be called "black," so shouldn't be making a career out of impersonating a black woman.
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I agree, I personally can't stand Zoe Saldana for those exact reasons.
 
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