Sign In

Register

Rachel Dolezal NAACP controversy

Discussion in 'In the News' started by goodlove, Jun 6, 2015.

Page 47 of 62

The Dark King Well-Known Member

goodlove said: ↑

Oh im the dumb one huh?

U socalled smart people fell for the bs and then tried to rationalize it to let her continue the lie.....lol
Click to expand...

Yup. Mofos felt so honored that a white person would actually try to live as black person they threw all logic out of the window. She actually got a pass for wearing black face. She couldn't even answer simple ass questions showing either she knew what she was doing was wrong or she was delusional as hell.

The Dark King, Jun 20, 2015

#921
goodlove New Member

The Dark King said: ↑

Yup. Mofos felt so honored that a white person would actually try to live as black person they threw all logic out of the window. She actually got a pass for wearing black face. She couldn't even answer simple ass questions showing either she knew what she was doing was wrong or she was delusional as hell.
Click to expand...

Lol

I was talking to a friend and we agreed that we didnt care if she adopted black culture...just dont lie.

I truly believe shes has mental health issues. She needs help.

goodlove, Jun 20, 2015

#922
goodlove New Member

Im shocked no one interviewed the exhusband

Bliss said: ↑

Everyone sometimes feels the urge to reinvent themselves — to start again afresh in a new place, free from the assumptions others have made about them.

Even so, after Rachel Dolezal moved from their family home in Montana to the city of Spokane in Washington State, her adopted brother was stunned to learn just how thoroughly she had transformed herself.

The blonde-haired, blue-eyed daughter of missionaries was passing herself off as black, and had even befriended an African-American man she was pretending was her father. She begged her brother Ezra not to rock the boat by revealing the truth about her past.

Rachel told Ezra that, as one of four African-American infants her parents had adopted, he was welcome to visit her, not least because he obviously fitted in with her new persona. Much to his dismay, she wanted him to go along with the lie that he was her brother by blood.

‘She told me not to blow her cover,’ Ezra said yesterday. ‘She told me not to tell anybodyabout Montana or her family over there. She said she was starting a new life.

Ezra was both baffled and angered by her imposture, which he considered tantamount to ‘blackface’, the deeply controversial tradition of white entertainers blacking up their faces. And it was, to be brutally frank, little different: she started to darken her skin colour, frizz up her straight hair into dark curls, and affect an African-American accent.

Ezra’s anger turned to fury when he and his family discovered that, not content simply pretending to be black, 37-year-old Miss Dolezal had even invented a whole history of suffering at the hands of white oppression, to help her climb the ladder in the civil rights worldRachel s the president of the NAACP in Spokane.

She told those she encountered in her new incarnation how her white mother and white step-father (in truth, her real father) had punished their mixed-race children with a kind of whip that had once been used on slaves.

Miss Dolezal also complained to the police of being the victim of hate crimes by white racists, who she said had even left a noose in her garage.

All this posturing appeared to do the trick, helping to establish Miss Dolezal as a leading light of the black rights movement in America’s Pacific Northwest. She is the president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) in Spokane, Washington state’s second- biggest city. She also runs the city’s police oversight committee and is an African Studies professor at the local university, where she gives impassioned classes on The Black Woman’s Struggle.

Now, however, after her horribly misrepresented parents decided it was time to reveal the truth about their daughter, her astonishing, decade-long deception has come spectacularly tumbling down. When a TV news crew finally confronted her, and asked if she was African-American, she eventually stammered that she ‘didn’t understand the question’ and ran off to hide in a dress shop.

Officials are now investigating whether she should be prosecuted for lying about her racial background in her application for the police ombudsman’s job. She might yet also face trouble from police, who have dropped investigations into all nine of the alleged race hate crimes she suffered amid allegations she invented them.

This outlandish case could have been dismissed as an example of someone merely seeking to get a leg up in their career by posing as someone they are not. But this is America, with its bitter legacy of slavery and segregation.

Now, the country’s tortured race debate has been reignited once again as commentators from all sides battle over what the Dolezal case actually means. Some have shown sympathy for her, others have been outraged — but few are daring to laugh at this bizarre scandal.

Black or mixed-race Americans have for centuries been passing themselves off as white in order to better their lives, but you can probably count on one hand the number of people who have tried to go in the opposite direction. So what are we to think of a talented young white woman who has spent the past decade pretending to be black?

Her brother Ezra says Miss Dolezal — still with a pale complexion and straight blonde hair — complained to her family of suffering racism.

She developed a ‘dislike for being white, and for white people’ that boiled down to ‘self-hatred’, he believes.

After university, she had a short-lived marriage to an African-American man which produced a son but ended, she claims, because her husband became violent to her and to the child.

In around 2006 or 2007, she started to ‘disguise’ herself as black, says her mother. It started with her hair — she had enjoyed arranging the hair of her adopted black sister, Esther — and Miss Dolezal was soon braiding her own in the same ethnic style, often covering it in an African headwrap.

By 2011, say family members, she was applying make-up to her face to appear ‘darker and darker’. A new look needed a new back story, and hers was elaborate — born in a tepee and brought up in South Africa, she said she had had to hunt with a bow and arrows for food.

None of it, say her family, is remotely true — she hasn’t even set foot in Africa.

It’s easy to scoff now at the many times this firebrand has eloquently spoken out about the difficulties of living as a black woman in a largely white part of the States. Even going to the cinema to watch 12 Years A Slave was an ordeal, she said, as she felt the eyes of her white neighbours turn to watch her reaction.

In 2010, she told the New York Times that she could ‘not imagine showing her face’ at an event held by the Tea Party, the ultra-conservative faction in the Republican Party, because of the preponderance of white faces. ‘It would make me nervous to be there unless I went with a big group,’ she said. Only last December, she wrote a column about the ‘asphyxiation we are experiencing as black people in America’.

Certainly, it would have been pretty much impossible to take some of her radical stances if she had been whiteA video clip, entitled Black Is Beautiful, shot in one of the classes she gives at Eastern Washington University, shows her railing against how black women’s hairstyles have been dictated by ‘white supremacy and racism’.

Talking about one particular style of African-American hair, she tugs at her own tight curls and says: ‘Like this.’

Thanks to her pretence, Miss Dolezal got away with a lot of arguably racist behaviour of her own. She once refused to allow a light-skinned Hispanic student to participate in a class exercise about white oppression because ‘she didn’t look Hispanic’.

Her tweets included one in which she lambasted the Oscar-winning film The Help, which examines the nature of social segregation between black and white, sniffing how it had ‘put $206mil in a white woman’s pocket.

In another tweet, she praised a video entitled ‘S**t White Girls Say ... to Black Girls’, claiming it was ‘true2life’.

It would be easy simply to goggle in astonishment — and many have. Critics of overweening political correctness are having a field day over the lengths one liberal white woman has gone to identify with black oppression. Dolezal may even remind British TV viewers of the ludicrous Ali G, the white rapper persona created by the comic Sacha Baron Cohen, who liked to complain at every perceived slight: ‘Is it because I is black?’

Conservatives have also highlighted what they see as the hypocrisy of liberals who have condemned Miss Dolezal’s claims to be black, yet applauded the recent announcement by former Olympic decathlon champion Bruce Jenner that he is now a woman calling herself Caitlyn.

Why can Jenner — who hasn’t even had gender-altering surgery — say he’s a woman if she can’t say she’s black?

But those on the Left, and many black commentators, say the comparison is unfair. Not only is ‘blacking up’ deeply racially offensive, they say, but there is the whole history of America’s unhappy race relations to take into account.

For years, under the so-called Jim Crow laws which preserved racial segregation in the South — even deep into the 20th century — a ‘one drop of blood’ rule meant that people with even the smallest trace of black ancestry were legally considered black.

For many, this was catastrophic. But according to academics, this has also established a tradition whereby pretty much any American can say they are black and not be challenged.

Indeed, those who have leapt to Rachel Dolezal’s defence say that if she wants to say she is black, why should anyone deny her that? The problem is that one click of the mouse in the internet age provides pictures of her as a young freckle-faced blonde girl, making a mockery of it all.

‘I wonder what race Rachel would become if she got stopped by the police?’ the — genuinely — black woman author Terry McMillan mused waspishly on Twitter. Unfortunately, one suspects, Miss Dolezal would seize on any mistreatment by the police as further proof of her noble struggle as an oppressed black woman.
Click to expand...

goodlove, Jun 20, 2015

#923
andreboba Well-Known Member

goodlove said: ↑

Lol

I was talking to a friend and we agreed that we didnt care if she adopted black culture...just dont lie.

I truly believe shes has mental health issues. She needs help.
Click to expand...

I don't think whatever is going on with her is on the level where if she doesn't get psych help she won't be able to function in society.

Plenty of high functioning adults are walking around burdened with self-hate.
Being Black is her truth and if she's being sincere to herself, whether or not strangers think she's authentic is irrelevant.

People beat this woman down like she's walking around thinking she's a Toyota sedan or a panda bear.

A WW deciding she's Black is a deep mental health problem??:smt017

IMO people are upset because she could willingly pass for Black, whereas most Black folk can't pass for anything except African, Caribbean or a Euro-Black if they speak a foreign language.

People are out here reinventing themselves everyday, literally.

I've met brothas before who worked damn hard to perfect a British accent then perpetrated like they were from Leeds or some shit.:smt009

If the woman was just performing Blackface, she wouldn't have been able to pass.
Blackface is an exaggerated caricature of being Black, but when Kimora Lee Simmons was tanning her skin to look Blacker, nobody said a word.

What she looked like when she was married to Russell Simmons;

What she looks like now with her new man;

My point being I don't think this is really much of a news story.

Identity in America is based on achievement, history.....and what you can get away with.

andreboba, Jun 20, 2015

#924
The Dark King Well-Known Member

andreboba said: ↑

I don't think whatever is going on with her is on the level where if she doesn't get psych help she won't be able to function in society.

Plenty of high functioning adults are walking around burdened with self-hate.
Being Black is her truth and if she's being sincere to herself, whether or not strangers think she's authentic is irrelevant.

People beat this woman down like she's walking around thinking she's a Toyota sedan or a panda bear.

A WW deciding she's Black is a deep mental health problem??:smt017

IMO people are upset because she could willingly pass for Black, whereas most Black folk can't pass for anything except African, Caribbean or a Euro-Black if they speak a foreign language.

People are out here reinventing themselves everyday, literally.

I've met brothas before who worked damn hard to perfect a British accent then perpetrated like they were from Leeds or some shit.:smt009

If the woman was just performing Blackface, she wouldn't have been able to pass.
Blackface is an exaggerated caricature of being Black, but when Kimora Lee Simmons was tanning her skin to look Blacker, nobody said a word.

What she looked like when she was married to Russell Simmons;

What she looks like now with her new man;

My point being I don't think this is really much of a news story.

Identity in America is based on achievement, history.....and what you can get away with.
Click to expand...

Did you read the article dude just posted. One of that's how you identify why lie about your past, about your family. Why get your brother to lie for you?
And isn't Kimora Lee wasn't trying to look black she is black via her African American father. Dude you are reaching way too hard on this one.

The Dark King, Jun 20, 2015

#925
goodlove New Member

Its the constant lying such as being born in a teepee.

Why would you have to lie about that?

andreboba said: ↑

I don't think whatever is going on with her is on the level where if she doesn't get psych help she won't be able to function in society.

Plenty of high functioning adults are walking around burdened with self-hate.
Being Black is her truth and if she's being sincere to herself, whether or not strangers think she's authentic is irrelevant.

People beat this woman down like she's walking around thinking she's a Toyota sedan or a panda bear.

A WW deciding she's Black is a deep mental health problem??:smt017

IMO people are upset because she could willingly pass for Black, whereas most Black folk can't pass for anything except African, Caribbean or a Euro-Black if they speak a foreign language.

People are out here reinventing themselves everyday, literally.

I've met brothas before who worked damn hard to perfect a British accent then perpetrated like they were from Leeds or some shit.:smt009

If the woman was just performing Blackface, she wouldn't have been able to pass.
Blackface is an exaggerated caricature of being Black, but when Kimora Lee Simmons was tanning her skin to look Blacker, nobody said a word.

What she looked like when she was married to Russell Simmons;

What she looks like now with her new man;

My point being I don't think this is really much of a news story.

Identity in America is based on achievement, history.....and what you can get away with.
Click to expand...

goodlove, Jun 20, 2015

#926
goodlove New Member

The Dark King said: ↑

Did you read the article dude just posted. One of that's how you identify why lie about your past, about your family. Why get your brother to lie for you?
And isn't Kimora Lee wasn't trying to look black she is black via her African American father. Dude you are reaching way too hard on this one.
Click to expand...

I always thought she was blasian

goodlove, Jun 20, 2015

#927
andreboba Well-Known Member

goodlove said: ↑

I always thought she was blasian
Click to expand...

I believe Kimora is mixed, but she did tan her skin to look Blacker.
Because a WW tans her skin to look more ethnic or racially ambiguous isn't an issue for me.

Does anyone really care if this woman was born in a teepee??

Too much lying though, although to project her Blackness to the outside world, she needed to make sure here background matched.

I'm curious to know in her personal relationships was she known as a dishonest person or did her lies remain strictly about her background???

I feel like the very idea of Ms. Dolezal is so offensive to some people they're criticizing every aspect of who she is, which IMO is too much.

andreboba, Jun 20, 2015

#928
Beasty Well-Known Member

andreboba said: ↑

IMO people are upset because she could willingly pass for Black, whereas most Black folk can't pass for anything except African, Caribbean or a Euro-Black if they speak a foreign language.
Click to expand...

You know it. People get jealous over anything these days.

Beasty, Jun 20, 2015

#929
The Dark King Well-Known Member

Beasty said: ↑

You know it. People get jealous over anything these days.
Click to expand...

It's not jealousy fam it's insincerity of her character and co-opting a struggle that she felt necessary to lie about.
Why do you guys support her so much. Do you think her pretending to be black is some type of honor?

The Dark King, Jun 20, 2015

#930
The Dark King Well-Known Member

andreboba said: ↑

I believe Kimora is mixed, but she did tan her skin to look Blacker.
Because a WW tans her skin to look more ethnic or racially ambiguous isn't an issue for me.

Does anyone really care if this woman was born in a teepee??

Too much lying though, although to project her Blackness to the outside world, she needed to make sure here background matched.

I'm curious to know in her personal relationships was she known as a dishonest person or did her lies remain strictly about her background???

I feel like the very idea of Ms. Dolezal is so offensive to some people they're criticizing every aspect of who she is, which IMO is too much.
Click to expand...

Hold on where are you getting that she is tanning to look blacker? And she is in fact black. If Beyonce tans is she trying to look blacker? What about Kerry. Washington? Alicia Keys?
You make no sense.

The Dark King, Jun 20, 2015

#931
Beasty Well-Known Member

The Dark King said: ↑

It's not jealousy fam it's insincerity of her character and co-opting a struggle that she felt necessary to lie about.
Why do you guys support her so much. Do you think her pretending to be black is some type of honor?
Click to expand...

Nope. I Just don't see reason to be upset or offended. If anything I hope she finds peace.

Politicians lie every day along with salesmen, mechanics, lawyers, and everyday hustlers in New York but they do so for personal gain. (No offense to anyone here) Insecure folk lie well....because they are insecure :smt031 Do I get offended by someone because they may be insecure or have a mental illness? Nope. Being offended over someone else personal problems just don't seem logical to me.

Beasty, Jun 20, 2015

#932
goodlove New Member

She lied about everything about herself...she said she had a black father......when her parenrs are white...why lie about that?

Whats ok with that?

Beasty said: ↑

Nope. I Just don't see reason to be upset or offended. If anything I hope she finds peace.

Politicians lie every day along with salesmen, mechanics, lawyers, and everyday hustlers in New York but they do so for personal gain. (No offense to anyone here) Insecure folk lie well....because they are insecure :smt031 Do I get offended by someone because they may be insecure or have a mental illness? Nope. Being offended over someone else personal problems just don't seem logical to me.
Click to expand...

goodlove, Jun 20, 2015

#933
Beasty Well-Known Member

goodlove said: ↑

She lied about everything about herself...she said she had a black father......when her parenrs are white...why lie about that?

Whats ok with that?
Click to expand...

Who said it was ok. It's called insecurity......damn. Are people not allowed to have flaws? I met people that lied all the time about who they were and what they achieved. I knew I couldn't get close to them, but it didn't offend me. Once I got tired of hearing the bullshit I moved on, simple as that.

I'm not perfect, and just because I don't have the same flaws that she has is no reason to look down on her.

Beasty, Jun 20, 2015

#934
andreboba Well-Known Member

The Dark King said: ↑

Hold on where are you getting that she is tanning to look blacker? And she is in fact black. If Beyonce tans is she trying to look blacker? What about Kerry. Washington? Alicia Keys?
You make no sense.
Click to expand...

Kimora Lee is biracial, I believe Black and Korean.

Yes she did tan her skin when she was married to Russell Simmons to look Blacker.

The point is tanning your skin isn't a form of 'blackface', no matter who does it.

Millions of WW get tans because they think darker skin with reason is more attractive than pale skin. Are they trying to appropriate the culture of people of color??:smt069

If you're offended because Ms. Dolezal says she's Black, fine. But don't bring up her tanning her skin as another level of offense.

That's like calling her perm a salon inspired minstrel show.lol

andreboba, Jun 20, 2015

#935
goodlove New Member

I think everyone has moved on...we are just saying ...nevermind

Beasty said: ↑

Who said it was ok. It's called insecurity......damn. Are people not allowed to have flaws? I met people that lied all the time about who they were and what they achieved. I knew I couldn't get close to them, but it didn't offend me. Once I got tired of hearing the bullshit I moved on, simple as that.

I'm not perfect, and just because I don't have the same flaws that she has is no reason to look down on her.
Click to expand...

goodlove, Jun 20, 2015

#936
webmaster Administrator Staff Member

The Dark King said: ↑

Congrats on the new job. CS?
Click to expand...

What is CS?

webmaster, Jun 20, 2015

#937
Beasty Well-Known Member

goodlove said: ↑

I think everyone has moved on...we are just saying ...nevermind
Click to expand...

No you'll didn't, you'll are actually offended over her personal problems and she doesn't even know you'll exist.

Beasty, Jun 20, 2015

#938
Bliss Well-Known Member

goodlove said: ↑

I think everyone has moved on...we are just saying ...nevermind
Click to expand...

Lol. Clearly some have zero concept of pathological lying. They are as in denial of Rachel's non-blackness as she is.

Bliss, Jun 20, 2015

#939
goodlove New Member

Beasty said: ↑

No you'll didn't, you'll are actually offended over her personal problems and she doesn't even know you'll exist.
Click to expand...

I was never ever offended. None of my posts stated that.

In summation all my posts have said or inferred that i didnt care she dressed or acted black...theres no need to lie about being white....or lie about anything about herself.

How did u get me being offended out of that?

goodlove, Jun 20, 2015

#940

(You must log in or sign up to reply here.)

Page 47 of 62

Share This Page

White Women Black Men.com

#1 Interracial Dating site for White Women and Black Men