Seal and Heidi Klum

christine dubois said:
Celebrities are mostly extremely egoistic-narcistic people, who else wants to see oneself everyday in news and no private life? You can earn money different ways, this cannot be the reason.
Men, if they are too successful,tend to feel like they can have any woman and mostly there are enough around them, so the temptation is there , the possiblity is there, so unfortunatly many of them get on the roll. I have seen it many times, suddenly they feel like kings, false friends and hypocrites are with them,their life is like" drugs and rock'n'roll" (how people say ) and their own wife is suddenly not good enough anymore.. Sad, but many times true

Heidi Klum already is critisized long time, when you see interviews of her and she is talking such bs like "family and carreer is no problem for ,me"..it's a kind of laugh..on which costs? It seems that her day has 72 hrs. And for what? Such stupid shows like "Germanys Top Model" or that we are all nerved, because her face is everywhere?

Claudia Schiffer is smarter, more human. When she married she took herself off of the market. She made 250 Mio and fine..Sometimes you see her, but it's definitly rare. She knows what is really valuable in life
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Christine, excellent explanation. I can only guess, but many women - and many women here, agree with your last 2 paragraphs most. (first one is a great general description of celebs).

What you are saying - which I like, is that what's really valuable in life is love/spouse/children/family - and then money.
But when the women here speak what you said, whether about themselves or other women, they are criticized by a select (but loud) few, and told it's not acceptable to want just that and if you do - especially if the spouse makes more money, then you are a gold-digger, a baby-maker only, and you contribute nothing to the marriage except kids.
You see to them, for a wife to love first and foremost her husband, children, family.. instead of a career, that does not help the husband who makes the money. Even though when the wife stays home and takes on the huge responsibility of raising the family, keeping her husband happy and keeping the family together, it allows the husband be less stressed and focused....to make the money.
 
Kunoichi said:
Christine, excellent explanation. I can only guess, but many women - and many women here, agree with your last 2 paragraphs most. (first one is a great general description of celebs).

What you are saying - which I like, is that what's really valuable in life is love/spouse/children/family - and then money.
But when the women here speak what you said, whether about themselves or other women, they are criticized by a select (but loud) few, and told it's not acceptable to want just that and if you do - especially if the spouse makes more money, then you are a gold-digger, a baby-maker only, and you contribute nothing to the marriage except kids.
You see to them, for a wife to love first and foremost her husband, children, family.. instead of a career, that does not help the husband who makes the money. Even though when the wife stays home and takes on the huge responsibility of raising the family, keeping her husband happy and keeping the family together, it allows the husband be less stressed and focused....to make the money.
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You notice how the two people she mentioned were super models who earned their own coin major difference from the picture you try to paint. You see me calling Ches or Tarshi baby makers who contribute nothing?
But in the case of the extremely wealthy where you get a staff to do most of the heavy lifting you really deem their contributions equal to a third to half of what the men had actually work for? Come on Kuno really? Well this is where I respectfully agree to disagree
 
The Dark Knight said:
No you make no sense to me. The part where you said:
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yea, that's usually the lady that raised you. lol
I guess, it says nothing for the man who did. - here I thought you were talking about the man who raised him. - did I get that part right?
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Yeah you did, lol, It was a just a fun "male" jab since he took a fun jab at wives, which you did too (but you were serious), which is why I even (jokingly) responded to you in the first place! *phew* lol, oookay.
 
The Dark Knight said:
You notice how the two people she mentioned were super models who earned their own coin major difference from the picture you try to paint. You see me calling Ches or Tarshi baby makers who contribute nothing?
But in the case of the extremely wealthy where you get a staff to do most of the heavy lifting you really deem their contributions equal to a third to half of what the men had actually work for? Come on Kuno really? Well this is where I respectfully agree to disagree
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Bull. by your account, Juniata Jordan didn't "earn" her $168 million coin either then, but you gave her a pass and even defended her in your Public Service Announcement thread.
 
Kunoichi said:
Bull. by your account, Juniata Jordan didn't "earn" her $168 million coin either then, but you gave her a pass and even defended her in your Public Service Announcement thread.
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I was actually going to take that back because I had always been under the impression they lived in his childhood home and she was a house wife but since you brought that up she was with him before he was anything they met and dated from 1984 until 1989 when they got married. That was his rookie year and back then NBA players weren't making much money. To put it in perspective Dr. J was one of the highest paid players back then and I think the most he ever got was a 1.6 million dollar contract not to mention when she met him he hadn't really proven himself yet. I also have to admit that I thought we were talking about Juanita compared to Elin not Vanessa(problems of posting in multiple threads).
 
The Dark Knight said:
I was actually going to take that back because I had always been under the impression they lived in his childhood home and she was a house wife but since you brought that up she was with him before he was anything they met and dated from 1984 until 1989 when they got married. That was his rookie year and back then NBA players weren't making much money. To put it in perspective Dr. J was one of the highest paid players back then and I think the most he ever got was a 1.6 million dollar contract not to mention when she met him he hadn't really proven himself yet. I also have to admit that I thought we were talking about Juanita compared to Elin not Vanessa(problems of posting in multiple threads).
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Juniata and Mike met in '84 but dated very briefly at fist, then on and off for the following year. Stillshe maried him 4 years into his wondrous career.
However before he ever met Juniata and/or was dating her, he was on the cover of SI, was voted to play in the All Star game, voted Rookie of the Year, was the highest scorer in the league, starred in a movie as himself, then in '85 the air Jordan shoe was created. He was making 2 million the year before he married her, not to mention Nike's huge pay day. It was still a signif amount back then.
I know you are trying to make Juniata out to be some high school sweetheart, but sorry, DK, she wasn't. So you need to also take back that she was with him before he was an anybody, or that they were married for 25 yrs when I showed you it was 17 at the most, or that her kids were raised to adults, when they weren't.
(BTW, similarly, Kobe married Vanessa 3 years into his pro-career, too.)

Anyway, which ever way you cut it, Juniata is part of your gold-digging-hoe brigade no matter how you try to slice it...but hopefully you will see its not all so cut and dried...some of these men marry good women...and wait until I show something about Elin later...maybe you will change your tune about her. She's a good woman!


ps, did you know both of Mike's parents were no taller than 5ft 9? Crazy huh? Gives you hope you too can make a Mikey if you end up with a shortie, eh? :smt061
 
Kunoichi said:
Juniata and Mike met in '84 but dated very briefly at fist, then on and off for the following year. Stillshe maried him 4 years into his wondrous career.
However before he ever met Juniata and/or was dating her, he was on the cover of SI, was voted to play in the All Star game, voted Rookie of the Year, was the highest scorer in the league, starred in a movie as himself, then in '85 the air Jordan shoe was created. He was making 2 million the year before he married her, not to mention Nike's huge pay day. It was still a signif amount back then.
I know you are trying to make Juniata out to be some high school sweetheart, but sorry, DK, she wasn't. So you need to also take back that she was with him before he was an anybody, or that they were married for 25 yrs when I showed you it was 17 at the most, or that her kids were raised to adults, when they weren't.
(BTW, similarly, Kobe married Vanessa 3 years into his pro-career, too.)

Anyway, which ever way you cut it, Juniata is part of your gold-digging-hoe brigade no matter how you try to slice it...but hopefully you will see its not all so cut and dried...some of these men marry good women...and wait until I show something about Elin later...maybe you will change your tune about her. She's a good woman!


ps, did you know both of Mike's parents were no taller than 5ft 9? Crazy huh? Gives you hope you too can make a Mikey if you end up with a shortie, eh? :smt061[/I]
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I'd rather create one of the dudes in the Living The Life Thread and with a 143 IQ I think I have the genes to do it lol. I'm hoping for a mathematician or maybe even some kind molecular biologist or even a great writer so unless my future spouse messes it up with her wack stock I think it'll be all good. (Not bragging about being from good stock intelligence wise just is what it is just like GZ got those super tall genes lol)

By the way I said I conceded to Juanita being of the same ilk as Vanessa and Elin and no matter what you show me the problem with someone like Elin is no matter how good a person she might be it doesn't take away from the over all argument that she contributed little to nothing outside of pushing out babies. Not a bad deal for someone who lived like a lottery winner.

If you realized by now it has nothing to do with her or any of the other people we're talking about being women. I just can't stand freeloaders and I actually read a yahoo article yesterday that supported that most men have this intense fear of being used as simply nothing more than a bank account. And when you see these insanely huge payouts (no matter whose fault it is) it kind of supports the fear just like when men cheat it supports the fear women have.
 
Kunoichi said:
Christine, excellent explanation. I can only guess, but many women - and many women here, agree with your last 2 paragraphs most. (first one is a great general description of celebs).

What you are saying - which I like, is that what's really valuable in life is love/spouse/children/family - and then money.
But when the women here speak what you said, whether about themselves or other women, they are criticized by a select (but loud) few, and told it's not acceptable to want just that and if you do - especially if the spouse makes more money, then you are a gold-digger, a baby-maker only, and you contribute nothing to the marriage except kids.
You see to them, for a wife to love first and foremost her husband, children, family.. instead of a career, that does not help the husband who makes the money. Even though when the wife stays home and takes on the huge responsibility of raising the family, keeping her husband happy and keeping the family together, it allows the husband be less stressed and focused....to make the money.
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you can never satisfy all. I knew a man, he was a normal looking man, not very attractive, but also not an ugly man, but he was really rich. His girl-friend was a young, beautiful and nice woman. His kids and the people around him always told him that she is just a gold-digger and only abuses him financially. A few months later she left him, she was sick of the generalizations and the bad talking of her. His next girl-friend was not a beauty (he was a good person, didn't take care of that) and the same people asked him, if he cannot have a more attractive woman (because he is so rich ). You see, what people say, tells you more about their character than about the person they make assumptions of.
About money..for some men it's important to safe their vallet, for others, not. Some men love to be generous, others feel theirself abused, if they just pay for dinner.. you just have to look for the right partner for you. Because some women don't want to take any cent from the man, others don't care, who earns the money.
Nobody can say what is right or wrong in general, only I can say what it is right or wrong for me.
 
Heidi and Seal Have Not Split – Yet

By Kristen Mascia

Saturday January 21, 2012 10:25 PM EST



Seal and Heidi Klum are not headed for divorce court just yet, a source close to them tells PEOPLE.

Contrary to reports that surfaced Saturday, "They've been fighting a lot lately, but they have no plans to announce a split right now," the source says. "They're not divorcing."

But they have been weathering a rough patch.

According to the insider, in recent months, jealousies and distance have tested the famously lovey-dovey pair.

Sources tell PEOPLE that Seal has grown envious of his wife's incredible success in recent years. "Seal is bitter because Heidi has a blooming career, and he doesn't," says the source close to the couple.
Distance is another factor, the source adds.

On tour to promote his new album, Soul 2, Seal recently flew solo to New York to appear on Late Show with David Letterman, then to London for more commitments.

Back together at their Brentwood, Calif., home on Saturday, "they seem to be doing a lot better," the source adds. "They're both wearing their wedding bands."

But there's more time apart on the horizon.

While Seal is due to appear this week on The Ellen DeGeneres Show, Jimmy Kimmel Live! and Tavis Smiley – all of which tape in and around Los Angeles – Klum is expected to travel to Germany soon to promote the seventh season of Germany's Next Top Model, which premieres Feb. 23.
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Heidi may be more famous but it seems like Seal is plenty busy according to this.
 
The Dark Knight said:
I was actually going to take that back because I had always been under the impression they lived in his childhood home and she was a house wife but since you brought that up she was with him before he was anything they met and dated from 1984 until 1989 when they got married. That was his rookie year and back then NBA players weren't making much money. To put it in perspective Dr. J was one of the highest paid players back then and I think the most he ever got was a 1.6 million dollar contract not to mention when she met him he hadn't really proven himself yet. I also have to admit that I thought we were talking about Juanita compared to Elin not Vanessa(problems of posting in multiple threads).
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what only 1.6 million, How did he survive? The horror the horror:smt120
 
The Dark Knight said:
I'd rather create one of the dudes in the Living The Life Thread and with a 143 IQ I think I have the genes to do it lol. I'm hoping for a mathematician or maybe even some kind molecular biologist or even a great writer so unless my future spouse messes it up with her wack stock I think it'll be all good. (Not bragging about being from good stock intelligence wise just is what it is just like GZ got those super tall genes lol)
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All of which will be paid low,:smt023 or at least 'til, they can get a doctorate.
 
Supermodel Heidi Klum and British singer Seal confirm they are splitting up

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Last Updated: 12:23 AM, January 23, 2012

Supermodel Heidi Klum and British singer Seal confirmed Sunday that they are splitting up after seven years of marriage.

The celebrity couple told People magazine's website that while they continued to love each other they had simply "grown apart."

"While we have enjoyed seven very loving, loyal and happy years of marriage, after much soul-searching we have decided to separate," a statement said.

"We have had the deepest respect for one another throughout our relationship and continue to love each other very much, but we have grown apart. This is an amicable process and protecting the well-being of our children remains our top priority, especially during this time of transition.
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Heidi Klum and Seal anounced their separation Sunday, blaming the breakup on "growing apart."

"We thank our family, friends, and fans for their kind words of support. And for our children's sake, we appreciate you respecting our privacy."

News of the impending split first surfaced Saturday, with entertainment website TMZ reporting that Klum, the former "Head Angel" for Victoria's Secret, would cite "irreconcilable differences" when she files divorce papers in Los Angeles, possibly as early as next week.

German Klum, 38, and 48-year-old Seal, whose full name is Seal Henry Olusegun Olumide Adeola Samuel, married in Mexico in 2005 after having met the previous year. They are known for their lavish ceremonies where they renew their wedding vows on their anniversary every year.

They have three children together -- Henry, 6, Johan, 5, and Lou, 2. Seal also adopted Klum's seven-year-old daughter Leni from her previous relationship with Italian businessman and Formula One entrepreneur Flavio Briatore.

The couple was last seen together on Dec. 27, when Klum, the "Project Runway" host, tweeted a photo of them in Aspen, Colo. Klum attended the Golden Globe Awards without her husband on Jan. 15.

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The IR flagship down in flames! What's next for the world?:confused: I know!!!:smt115How about she get with me!!!:smt023
 
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