Ol'Skool Classic
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archangel
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That's like having batman wear the batman suit . oh wait.....
Morning Star
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Anime Jesus
The anime rendition of the whole Jesus story...well, the final hours before his ultimate end. This is probably most unusual for a lot of people. It's not because of the format, but rather, the way how it's done wasn't geared towards the Weeaboo/Wapanese audience that likes to see things "kawaii."
This rendition of the Christian mythos is well worth watching!
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This rendition of the Christian mythos is well worth watching!
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Ol'Skool Classic
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Certain characters who wear masks/costumes in the comics doesn't work for the movies. Batman, Captain America, Spider-Man & Iron Man (at least when he use to keep his identity a secret way back in the day) that works for over all character/ID purposes. Wolverine, while it looks cool when he has a mask with certain designed costumes he has had through out the decades, he's one IMO who doesn't need a mask. Give him some type of decent designed uniform/costume that he wears when he's fighting bad guys and he's good. The wearing of the street clothes to fight crime/bad guys is pushing it in a superhero movie IMO.
Thump
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In the stories that he has starred in as his live action incarnation, I would have to agree.
However, that is only because the movies he has been in, haven't properly explored the sleek, ninja, killer, side of Wolverine. Just read the Enemy of the State storyline. It's when he was brainwashed by The Hand ninja clan to attack other Marvel heroes. He was so much more scary and badass in the mask, then he would have been without it. That is the Wolverine that needs to be portrayed on film.
Ol'Skool Classic
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In the stories that he has starred in as his live action incarnation, I would have to agree.
However, that is only because the movies he has been in, haven't properly explored the sleek, ninja, killer, side of Wolverine. Just read the Enemy of the State storyline. It's when he was brainwashed by The Hand ninja clan to attack other Marvel heroes. He was so much more scary and badass in the mask, then he would have been without it. That is the Wolverine that needs to be portrayed on film.
Yes. The whole covert ops/assassin type stories in the comics with Wolverine in a mask & dark colored costume are perfect. Exactly why he should wear a costume. Live action however, no need for a mask because his distinctive hairstyle & mutton chops serve the same function as a mask as far as character/ID purposes. One of the big issues I had with the first Wolverine movie was the sequences when he & the other black op mutants were on mission. That would have been the idea time in a live action movie to have him & the others in costume & mask for added psychological effect IMO. Bad enough when you have somebodies with weapons & special skills trying to kill you, worse when they are in some sort of costume because now you know they are in a whole different level & mindset than your normal assassins.
Morning Star
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DC does it Better than Marvel
I just stumbled upon this opinion piece, and when looking at it...the author does bring up some very powerful points that would suggests that DC's being fairly smart with their resources.
I just stumbled upon this opinion piece, and when looking at it...the author does bring up some very powerful points that would suggests that DC's being fairly smart with their resources.
Ol'Skool Classic
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DC could easily out do Marvel in the big screen movie department if they just said "fuck it" and used some of the directors & producers for many of their animated shows & DVD movies to do actual live action movies since many stay true to the core concepts of the characters & some have actually worked in the comics industry on actual characters. But of course they have to play the Hollywood game & go with directors/producers who have put a few successful movies for some studios to get live action movies made.
Morning Star
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I would agree, but only to an extent. Granted, the Lauren Montgomerys and Bruce Timms would be better suited in having a creative consultant position for the live action movies instead of just taking the helm outright. Directing and producing animated shows and movies differs from the same roles in a live action movie.
If they have to get involved, they would need to handpick the persons who would do the roles justice and make the live action adaptations into something of a marvel. Hence why they would more likely have Hollywood work on the movies.
If they have to get involved, they would need to handpick the persons who would do the roles justice and make the live action adaptations into something of a marvel. Hence why they would more likely have Hollywood work on the movies.
Thump
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The problem with his theory is that the movie business is fickle and the first one to the trough wins most of the time.
At the rate DC/WB is going we wont see a Justice League movie until 2017 at the earliest.
By that time we will have had Thor 2, Captain America 2, Guardians Of The Galaxy, Avengers 2, Ant-Man, and probably Guardians Of The Galaxy 2, and DC would have put out only Batman Vs Superman. So all that money is going into Marvels pockets with no guarantee that there will even be an audience for more superheroes by 2017.
Ol'Skool Classic
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And you would think they would be doing that now. It's a no-brainer. DC/Warner Brothers have people in their employ that know the characters far better than many of the Hollywood directors no matter how big of a fanboy/girl many claim to be of the comic book genre.
Morning Star
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I believe she already addressed the whole thing regarding that part. With any movie franchise, it would be difficult to keep them fresh, so we'll eventually see their properties fizzle out of popularity and financially, which is the normal routine for any movie franchise that has enjoyed a great deal of success.
Plus, she mentioned that the characters are already introduced through TV shows, coupled with the fact that they are not dissected or broken apart by separate corporations who owns various Marvel IP. The fact that CW and DC are owned by Warner Bros. would already put them at an advantage.
Plus, she mentioned that the characters are already introduced through TV shows, coupled with the fact that they are not dissected or broken apart by separate corporations who owns various Marvel IP. The fact that CW and DC are owned by Warner Bros. would already put them at an advantage.
Morning Star
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The other issue is that since it's now a live action movie, those individuals would have to translate their prowess to make the superheroes seem all the more believable on the big screen. With animation, you can practically make the individuals do amazing feats without risking them coming off as poor special effects and such.
With live action movies, it would take some skilled, principled direction to make it happen. You are definitely correct that they are more than likely be consulted. However, did we see any of them being consulted in the Dark Knight movies or even Man of Steel?
With live action movies, it would take some skilled, principled direction to make it happen. You are definitely correct that they are more than likely be consulted. However, did we see any of them being consulted in the Dark Knight movies or even Man of Steel?
Thump
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Thank you for fixing my gender pronoun faux pas.
But the issue She addresses doesn't consider that the average summer movie goer isn't going to distinguish between Marvel and DC when they grow tired of Superhero movies. And since Marvel has beaten DC to the money. When the genre dries up, Marvel will be sitting on a pile of money that DC was to slow too get for themselves.
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Morning Star
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I'm not so sure about that. She actually mentioned that movies costs a lot of money, plus hiring actors and actresses to play the roles are very costly too. While the Marvel movies will be sitting on some cash, they could very well dry up over time when it run its course in a shorter period. This isn't counting the added production, marketing, etc....DC, on the other hand, manages to curb that heavy cost by making their superhero shows on TV and with varying levels of success. So, I would have to disagree there on your assessment.
And then, you have to consider Marketing. Granted, it's true that the average movie-goer would have a hard time distinguishing two brands (hell people might ask if Spawn belongs to either two universes), but with the right marketing ploy, that could very well change. All WB/DC needs to do is advertise their product as a DC product. If that's emphasized on their big name superhero movies, and the rests would follow...people would be more likely to pick sides.
And then, you have to consider Marketing. Granted, it's true that the average movie-goer would have a hard time distinguishing two brands (hell people might ask if Spawn belongs to either two universes), but with the right marketing ploy, that could very well change. All WB/DC needs to do is advertise their product as a DC product. If that's emphasized on their big name superhero movies, and the rests would follow...people would be more likely to pick sides.
Thank you for fixing my gender pronoun faux pas.
But the issue She addresses doesn't consider that the average summer movie goer isn't going to distinguish between Marvel and DC when they grow tired of Superhero movies. And since Marvel has beaten DC to the money. When the genre dries up, Marvel will be sitting on a pile of money that DC was to slow to get for themselves.
Ol'Skool Classic
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Not that I know of.
Here's the thing. They don't need to make that big of a leap to make the characters more believable. It's fantasy/sci-fi all they need to do is make the characters as relatable as possible while keeping true to who/what the characters are. The Dark Knight Trilogy was a great, but the main complaint you here from everyone was that they went TOO real world with it, especially the Dark Knight Rises. Same with Man of Steel in how Zod was dealt with. They need to get the proper balance of fantasy & realism.
Morning Star
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