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orejon4 said:
I agree with you. Trust is more important than 'love' or 'passion'. When I said it ends eventually, I meant that it seems like even those real loves just end because of life, the world, something. But it seems like even the best relationships have entropy slowing unwinding them or leading them to gradual breakdown. I'm no expert, for sure. That's just my observation.
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Neither am I
 
I think the right chemistry followed by similar morals and outlooks on life can lead to life long companionship. Just let it flow and don't force it.
 
orejon4 said:
Time for me to start up a lonely hearts thread. Lol
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Along with a thread regarding black myths. I spent a lot of time researching what we were talking about. Most articles agree with you but I am really looking for a definitive reason as to why we as group excel at sports. Not even excel but dominate. Where the hell is the Native American or Asian Usain Bolt or Lebron James. Dudes who absolutely embarass the competition.
 
The Dark King said:
Along with a thread regarding black myths. I spent a lot of time researching what we were talking about. Most articles agree with you but I am really looking for a definitive reason as to why we as group excel at sports. Not even excel but dominate. Where the hell is the Native American or Asian Usain Bolt or Lebron James. Dudes who absolutely embarass the competition.
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The first dominant US Olympian in running was a Native American. I think that conditions on the reservation are so horrible nowadays that, of those that remain, they are really having a tough time. And I imagine that many of those with resources or capital who aren't actively fighting to help their community have largely left and assimilated. I think people just channel their strength and their dreams into whatever avenue is open. As doors open, oppressed people surge forward. Look at African emigres whose cultures generally don't place as much emphasis on sport as African-Americans. They achieve more broadly in math, science and business. But back in Africa, many nations have underclasses whose children dream of sports dominance and pour their heart and soul into it. Hell, if I could dribble or bicycle kick, I would have tried that route. But I did better with books than balls.
 
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orejon4 said:
The first dominant US Olympian in running was a Native American. I think that conditions on the reservation are so horrible nowadays that, of those that remain, they are really having a tough time. And I imagine that many of those with resources or capital who aren't actively fighting to help their community have largely left and assimilated. I think people just channel their strength and their dreams into whatever avenue is open. As doors open, oppressed people surge forward. Look at African emigres whose cultures generally don't place as much emphasis on sport as African-Americans. They achieve more broadly in math, science and business. But back in Africa, many nations have underclasses whose children dream of sports dominance and pour their heart and soul into it. Hell, if I could dribble or bicycle kick, I would have tried that route. But I did better with books than balls.
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But my counter to that is Jamaica an island completely fucked by the IMF whose conditions are no better than the Native Americans who still produce world class athletes. See why I have a problem accepting the simplicity of what you're proposing? And to be fair I think sports is something most of us gravitate to as kids its just that those with better work ethic and talent tend to stay in the sports longer. So where are the naturally gifted white, Hispanic, Native American, and Asian dudes crushing the competition in sports like basketball,baseball, track and field, and football.
 
orejon4 said:
'Joe Redheart' (lol) would be playing probably if conditions in the Native American community and on reservations weren't so completely ground down. There used to be some major Native American athletes in the old days (and I do mean 'old'). The Eastern bloc athletes are in basketball (I think there are more ex-Yugoslavian and Turkish ballplayers than white Americans), boxing (Vladimir & Vitaly, anyone?) as well as gymnastics, hockey, soccer, etc. Soccer allows for some good comparisons, b/c it's one of the truly global sports, so you have a broad sampling to measure interracial performance.

On your running example, it's dominated (at least distance running is), not by formerly enslaved African-Americans, but by never enslaved, high-altitude training Kenyans, Algerians and Ethiopians, who are small, slight and fleet of foot. But they are still African, though. Lol

As for those East Asian societies, I think it's just a matter of time. And, in all fairness, let's not forget that there is a certain amount of cultural capital that we ("we", as if you and I are doing any high-dollar hooping, lol) bring to the game, particularly sports that black athletes have placed a major imprint. I'm not denying the dominance, just doubting race-driven genetic dominance, thinking instead that it's environmentally-determined dominance.
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I like you, @orejon4

And here's a little piece on Kenyan runners: http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/...kenyan-tribe-produces-the-worlds-best-runners
 
The answer to why Kenya makes the best runners is likely sociocultural, not genetics. Its pretty simple, greater participation in a particular sport= larger talent pool. Most developed countries have access to much greater amounts of sport, therefore, the talent is distributed. The scandanvians have been been recorded to have very similar levels of o2 utilization and fractional capacity, but the majority of there endurance athletes are streamlined into x-country skiing.

The differences between race and sport performance are far less than most people would like to believe.


Ok this was an interesting answer. I like the merits of it but then as it pertains the US in the sports that African Americans dominate in is there a higher rate of participants widening the talent pool. I'd love to see the stats because in my head I would say more whites participate in baseball and football but we see who dominates there. Basketball is tricky since I live in NY and every black kid with a jump shot thinks they're going to the league but I don't know if that's country wide. Then we go into other sports like boxing and track where I think the participant rate is either pretty even or more so dominated by other groups. Where there is low participant rates African Americans are pretty much no existent ie swimming and ice hockey as they tend to be more expensive and have a higher barrier to entry.
 
There are still many couples out there whose relationship did not "end" and are, instead, celebrating 50+ years of marriage. They may not all have been happy years, but the relationship was obviously one that worth remaining committed to and invested in.
 
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whikle said:
oh my god, Tarshi!! That's insane!! :smt009:smt089
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Can you see the scars from 2 weeks ago on the left knee?

I seriously need to learn to stand

Just stay upright.


That said. Big bird against me must have knees and tits the same as mine.


My team are in the finals!!!


I think the guy scoring must be high
 
wtarshi said:
Can you see the scars from 2 weeks ago on the left knee?

I seriously need to learn to stand

Just stay upright.


That said. Big bird against me must have knees and tits the same as mine.


My team are in the finals!!!


I think the guy scoring must be high
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Hehehe. Congrats on the finals! Super excite :D
 
Awwwww Tarsh.... You poor thing! Great to see you so active :) but I'm going to need you to take it easy, miss sexy. Can't be getting your legs all bruised up :(
 
wTarshi, there's no denying that you're "in it to win it". LOL.

Your knees look painful. Hopefully they heal enough in time for the finals.

Good luck, gorgeous!
 
I'm super excited about seeing Noah. I think it looks awesome. And I love me some Russell Crowe.

I can't wait for it! I want to see it tonight, but it's looking like tomorrow night. I hope it's as good as it looks. :smt023
 
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