Ymra
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No that pretty much sums up every woman I've met from NY.
Quick question for black guys.
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jaisee
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100% yes.
botoan
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Black women do not out earn us
The Wage Gap Exists Within Racial/Ethnic Groups
White men are not the only group that out-earns women, although the wage gap is largest between white men and white women. Within other groups, such as African Americans, Latinos, and Asian/Pacific Islanders, men earn more than women. White women earned 73.4% of what white men earned in 2001; in the same year, black women earned 84.8% of what black men earned.)(Source: U.S. Census Bureau).
It may take a couple of years for the 2010 census to release the new findings but, with the middle class taking a 5 percent drop for the last nine years in income while poorer people stayed at the same income level. Black men may still out earn black women.
Meizhu Lui, the director of the Closing the Wealth Gap Initiative at the Insight Center for Community Economic Development, reported the following:
that single black women in the US have median wealth of only $100.
This fact contradicts with data that shows that for the last three decades, black women have had greater income, educational and professional gains (the study shows that despite all that, single black men have a median wealth of $7,900, compared with the $100 median figure for single black women). Today, Single black women have less than 1 percent of the median net worth of black men.
The Wage Gap Exists Within Racial/Ethnic Groups
White men are not the only group that out-earns women, although the wage gap is largest between white men and white women. Within other groups, such as African Americans, Latinos, and Asian/Pacific Islanders, men earn more than women. White women earned 73.4% of what white men earned in 2001; in the same year, black women earned 84.8% of what black men earned.)(Source: U.S. Census Bureau).
It may take a couple of years for the 2010 census to release the new findings but, with the middle class taking a 5 percent drop for the last nine years in income while poorer people stayed at the same income level. Black men may still out earn black women.
Meizhu Lui, the director of the Closing the Wealth Gap Initiative at the Insight Center for Community Economic Development, reported the following:
that single black women in the US have median wealth of only $100.
This fact contradicts with data that shows that for the last three decades, black women have had greater income, educational and professional gains (the study shows that despite all that, single black men have a median wealth of $7,900, compared with the $100 median figure for single black women). Today, Single black women have less than 1 percent of the median net worth of black men.
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The Dark King
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I went out tonight. It cost me 120 for just dinner. Tuesday it cost me a hundred. I'm gonna need a part time job fam lol
Ymra
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I stand corrected, I bow down to your cut and paste skillz. My original home is KY, where are you from?
Ms. J
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where, in KY, did you grow up? I was born in Frankfort, went to college in eastern KY. I lived in western KY before moving to MI. You have piqued my curiosity...:smt045
botoan
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Originally Posted by Ymra View Post
I stand corrected, I bow down to your cut and paste skillz. My original home is KY, where are you from?
Born in Louisville lived there until 2nd grade, moved to the suburbs outside of the East End area. Spent a lot of time in the West End area.
I stand corrected, I bow down to your cut and paste skillz. My original home is KY, where are you from?
Born in Louisville lived there until 2nd grade, moved to the suburbs outside of the East End area. Spent a lot of time in the West End area.
raocha
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The Dark King
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The annoying thing is how amazingly hot they are which makes it hard to tell them to fuck themselves.
archangel
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I agree with this. It is always us or we when something disadvantageous is happening to a group that just happens to share the same trait as me despite me having an advantage.
botoan
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One of the hardest parts of being a black man is having to deal with all of the negativity which leads to self fulfilled prophecies. If you want yourself and other black men to continue to fail this mentality will surely get you there or should I say keep you there.
Black women out earn us, as I pointed out above is still not true and in actual wealth they are well behind and I will address that more later.
They are more educated than us, they certainly have more formal education but,WW are increasingly more educated than WM who are still in the workforce. In addition formal education does not equate with intelligence, common sense, ability nor even actual achievement. And I will address that later as well.
They are the strength that we so lack, that is perhaps the most depressing belief in the black community, first of all it does not recognize that women of ethnic groups are the strength of their family, community and even nation (including white women) all men are 'lacking' in strength compared to women (even white men) I grew up in a predominately white environment and have seen many white women hold 'it' together. White women for some reason don't pat themselves on the back, nor write books about how great they are.
Second, of all I think it is dangerous to paint black women as strong, because black women are human, they hurt just like everyone else and they need love,charity and compassion just like everyone else. I have a natural inclination to stand up for the vulnerable, however if someone appears invulnerable I will not bother to reach out to them. I think others often react the same.
Black women out earn us, as I pointed out above is still not true and in actual wealth they are well behind and I will address that more later.
They are more educated than us, they certainly have more formal education but,WW are increasingly more educated than WM who are still in the workforce. In addition formal education does not equate with intelligence, common sense, ability nor even actual achievement. And I will address that later as well.
They are the strength that we so lack, that is perhaps the most depressing belief in the black community, first of all it does not recognize that women of ethnic groups are the strength of their family, community and even nation (including white women) all men are 'lacking' in strength compared to women (even white men) I grew up in a predominately white environment and have seen many white women hold 'it' together. White women for some reason don't pat themselves on the back, nor write books about how great they are.
Second, of all I think it is dangerous to paint black women as strong, because black women are human, they hurt just like everyone else and they need love,charity and compassion just like everyone else. I have a natural inclination to stand up for the vulnerable, however if someone appears invulnerable I will not bother to reach out to them. I think others often react the same.
Ymra
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I am actually from Louisville, born and raised.
I havn't LIVED there since 1991 but it still my home town.
Ymra
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You will forgive me if I reply to a general topic in general terms.
Ymra
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You strike me an intelligent cat and I was hoping you were going to present a better argument other than "but look at white people" when speaking about African/Black American males. Perhaps part of the problem is that we have not set standards for ourselves.
The fact of the matter is that we have failed (black males) by virtually ever measurable means. Our community, our homes, our children and looking outwardly and saying "We aren't the only ones" does not mitigate this failure.
The Dark King
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I agree fam. Way too much finger pointing and not enough problem solving. I always use immigrants as the litmus test. If people from other countries who have the same skin tone as us but who have to struggle culturally because they're foreigners can be upwardly mobile then why can't more of us.
Anten7
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Pay no attention to the anti-black agenda of some posters here. Every thing you said is absolutely true. Others may offer their opinions, but they neither negate, dispell, or invalidate a single word you said. This is coming from a well educated and highly intelligent African-American Man.
Ymra
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I am not here to question any one' intelligence; that being said, "but look at white people" can't on any level be considered a serious retort.
I for one as proud of who and what I am and I harbor no "anti-black" agenda, but if we don't take a serious look at our failures and acknowledge those failures then we simply aren't being honest to ourselves.s
anti-black? Com on man. Are you serious? Maybe there is a history on this site that I don't know about, but Anti-black I am most certainly not.
Ymra
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I say we squandered that which was fought for us by those greater than us.
archangel
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It is just Anten7. lol
Addressing your comments, the problems are local. If people don't want to locally solve it then it isn't going to work.
This is going to get ugly because of your attempt to oversimplify this and place black men in one box.
I am going to enjoy reading though.
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Anten7
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Your interpretation of botoan's post is an oversimplification at best. At worst, it's just plain wrong. What is it? You didn't like how pro African-American Male he was being? There was nothing inaccurate - per se, about his post; and yet you took a counter position.