Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners' Names and Addresses

[goodlove]

lastly, not shitting on bliss, tdk and you for the fears of losing your 2nd amendments rights to own a gun but no where will you lose your ability to own a gun. where are you guys getting that from?

as far as the newspaper deal....thats is fucked but isnt ironic that the socall law abiding citizens who fite for the constituition are trying to take away free speech and its legal to write the shit they posted....and the people who are centralist aboput have armed gaurds......


HHHHMMMM.

 

[goodlove]

there u go again telling people what they need and don't need

number 1) how is it harassing? if you are a proud gun owner and its public record then embrace it. you guys are always making the argument if the criminals knew that if the city was full of gun owners the crime rate will drop. so there you go....

number 2) america 34 gun related deaths aday......britian below 50 a year.

Suggestions for gun control/restrictions/regulations:

1) owner can not have clips that hold more than 10 rounds.

2) ban on all assault weapons

3)No multiround burst action weapons. (all weapons are to be single shot actions...similar to bolt action rifles. (dont have to be bolt action but in bolt action are only allow one round to be shot [per pull of the trigger).

4) all weapons sold private and through retail must be registered with the state and backround checks must be done.

5) mental evaluations must be done yearly and/or on every sale of a gun. (based on israel gun laws)

6) all first time owners must go through gun course to be certified. recertifications done periodically. (based on israel gun laws)

7) have a federal and a local backround check.

8) any criminal violent arrest and/or conviction or documentation will get you banned from owning a weapon including: domestic violence arrest, restraining orders, disorderly conduct, drunk driving record would have you banned from owning a weapon.

9) any sale to another individual without following these procedures will be held liable for any crime associated with the weapon in question and could face charges equal to the crime committed in which the weapon in question was used.

10) all guns and rounds to have a bar code and entered into a national database. each round will match to the gun registered so it can be traced to the owner.

11) federal tax at a 200% rate on all rounds and guns.


israel allows only 50 rounds to civilians for life. military people the same in private life....per cnn

since you are a gun advocate...what are yours? more guns and unlimited amount of rounds

Its one thing to publish the amount of gun owners out there but publishing names and addresses is persecution. It's singling out plain and simple.
We don't do that shit for drunk drivers and people who break the speed limit and they are responsible for ten times the amount of deaths per year.

All your provisions for gun control are reasonable and mostly already done but the tax thing is stupid. People will just buy black market bullets since the actual cost of making bullets hasn't gone up. Its incredibly cheap and people will make money off of that.
All your gun provisions fall under not wanting people to have assault rifles which to me is fine or if they are allowed to have them they should have to jump through more hoops to get them like the difference between a regular drivers license and a CDL. Even though I don't see how they can really enforce it though

And that is the slippery slope people speak of. What? Why can't they have cameras on the street I am doing nothing wrong so its OK. Next thing you know they have a camera up in your home watching you.

yeah, wow, good come back. lets do this ....lets make drunk driving legal because there are people who never drink and drive.



so does your "right" to own a gun supercedes someones right to live....

dumbasses shoot their guns in the air on the fourth of july and new years and don t think those bullets come back down. a kid died on new years at church from a bullet coming thru the roof because of that...was the shooter law biding......we dont know they were never cuaght.


also how many people died from cameras on the traffic lites versus a gun.....

Obama unveils sweeping new gun control proposals

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_new...veils-sweeping-new-gun-control-proposals?lite

very similar to mine.....according to TDK and beasty obama is a dumbass.....you voted for him right? that makes you a dumbass by association

how does growing your own food reduce property values? the first lady even has a veggie garden on the white house grounds

it only applies when they want it to apply. LOL

 

[goodlove]

President Barack Obama called for background checks on all gun sales, whether in stores or at auctions and conventions, as part of efforts to prevent gun violence.

The president also called on Congress to reinstate the ban on military-style assault rifles and limit ammunition magazines to 10 rounds for all weapons and urged the public to pressure Congress and the gun lobby to push for stronger steps against gun violence, saying "the only way we can change is if the American people demand it."

Obama issued 23 executive actions to prevent gun violence that do not require congressional approval, including strengthening background checks on gun sales and expanding safety programs in schools.


breaking news on CNN.com

 

[goodlove]

obamas gun control


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/...-battle-gun-violence-165956859--politics.html

source yahoo news.....

 

[The Dark King]

lastly, not shitting on bliss, tdk and you for the fears of losing your 2nd amendments rights to own a gun but no where will you lose your ability to own a gun. where are you guys getting that from?

as far as the newspaper deal....thats is fucked but isnt ironic that the socall law abiding citizens who fite for the constituition are trying to take away free speech and its legal to write the shit they posted....and the people who are centralist aboput have armed gaurds......


HHHHMMMM.

Its called responsibility. The paper printed the names of rape and assault victims hiding from attackers who bought a gun because the police completely failed them but I guess theyre like Zimmerman roo so fuck em right?
Same with correction officers and other law enforcement who try to hide their identity from the criminals they protect us from.
You geniuses seem tonthink gun ownership means a bunch of rambo wannabes waiting for a fight when its the furthest thing from the truth. So keep acting like this was a simple case of free speech and not some assholes way of trying to sell more papers at the expense of innocent people. I live in the area where the Journal News is cirulated and all this has done was make life harder for the law abiding.

 

[The Dark King]

Obama unveils sweeping new gun control proposals

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_new...veils-sweeping-new-gun-control-proposals?lite

very similar to mine.....according to TDK and beasty obama is a dumbass.....you voted for him right? that makes you a dumbass by association



it only applies when they want it to apply. LOL

Hold on so I dont agree with one thing Im calling him a dumbass? You aight?
You know the most amount of posts doesnt mean you win right little buddy?

 

[The Dark King]

the NRA are part of the problem and Im saying think for yourself and stay off of their talking points. the only thing you keep bringing up like the NRA (national repugnant assoc., national racist assoc) and the white supremist/militia groups are saying "more guns and the 2nd amendment. we need assault rifles ion every home. they are trying to take our guns away. the govt are tyrants"

you, bliss and TDK (primarily TDK) screaming that mantra. if you listen long enuff in the future and if you had listen in the past....who screaming that shit........the white supremist and the NRA.

not one black group or black civil rights group.

when the black panthers used the 2nd amnedment just a little....gun restrictions like a mofo came down until the BP's were pretty much gone. thus 2nd amendment is nmot for your ass.

What on earth are you talking about? When have I used NRA talking points? Saying the 2nd Amendment was also written to keep government from tyrannical? GL I provided direct quotes to support my argument none of which are from the NRA

 

[Bliss]

Hold on so I dont agree with one thing Im calling him a dumbass? You aight?
You know the most amount of posts doesnt mean you win right little buddy?

LOL. He's confused.

He keeps responding to his own posts, too. Easily ten times so far.

 

[The Dark King]

LOL. He's confused.

He keeps responding to his own posts, too. Easily ten times so far.

Hes desperately trying to make a point and keeps failing

 

[andreboba]

Some of you may not have intended to, but many of your pro gun rights arguments are NRA talking points; defense against a tyrannical government, right to unlimited magazine clips, opponents want to ban all guns, personal safety for all means greater access to guns, etc.

 

[The Dark King]

Some of you may not have intended to, but many of your pro gun rights arguments are NRA talking points; defense against a tyrannical government, right to unlimited magazine clips, opponents want to ban all guns, personal safety for all means greater access to guns, etc.

Who wants greatee access? I am for pysch evaluations and periodic updates. Listing all adults ib the home. Requiring lock boxes. Registering all guns both long guns and short guns but the magazine limitations to 10 rounds per clip is ridiculous along with a lot of the other provisions wont reduce the gun violence they are so worried about. How does it stop or even reduce spree killings?

 

[goodlove]

Hold on so I dont agree with one thing Im calling him a dumbass? You aight?
You know the most amount of posts doesnt mean you win right little buddy?

uuuhhh you did say that I was a dumbass.....do I need to pull it up.

 

[goodlove]

Some of you may not have intended to, but many of your pro gun rights arguments are NRA talking points; defense against a tyrannical government, right to unlimited magazine clips, opponents want to ban all guns, personal safety for all means greater access to guns, etc.

ignorance is so sad....

Who wants greatee access? I am for pysch evaluations and periodic updates. Listing all adults ib the home. Requiring lock boxes. Registering all guns both long guns and short guns but the magazine limitations to 10 rounds per clip is ridiculous along with a lot of the other provisions wont reduce the gun violence they are so worried about. How does it stop or even reduce spree killings?

ok, lets explain why the prez and other thinking people believe limiting the number of bullets in a clip. BUT first what it will not do....

you can buy 6000 rounds/bullets (bullets is a word used by civilians) but a clip/magazine (magazine is commonly used by military people...Im former army so we said magazines) should only hold 10 rounds in it to be fired.

now, using the loughner shooting (where gabby gifford got shot) 13 people got injured and 6 died. he had a 30 round clip and let them all off in 15 seconds.

a hit rate of 19/30 = 63%

no one could not do anything for that time. you may think 15 seconds isnt long but let them rounds fly over your head and its a life time......

now you have cut his rounds down to a 1/3. thus if he held the trigger as he did he may only had 5 seconds of shooting .

also may cut down his hit rate by a third sooo with a hit rate of 63 or 60% 6/10 would have been killed and or injured.

 

[goodlove]

ignorance is so sad....


ok, lets explain why the prez and other thinking people believe limiting the number of bullets in a clip. BUT first what it will not do....

you can buy 6000 rounds/bullets (bullets is a word used by civilians) but a clip/magazine (magazine is commonly used by military people...Im former army so we said magazines) should only hold 10 rounds in it to be fired.

now, using the loughner shooting (where gabby gifford got shot) 13 people got injured and 6 died. he had a 30 round clip and let them all off in 15 seconds.

a hit rate of 19/30 = 63%

no one could not do anything for that time. you may think 15 seconds isnt long but let them rounds fly over your head and its a life time......

now you have cut his rounds down to a 1/3. thus if he held the trigger as he did he may only had 5 seconds of shooting .

also may cut down his hit rate by a third sooo with a hit rate of 63 or 60% 6/10 would have been killed and or injured.

now, so he ran out of 30 rounds people jumped him so he couldnt reload. thus after 10 people would have done the same and less lives impacted.

got it.

 

[goodlove]

LOL. He's confused.

He keeps responding to his own posts, too. Easily ten times so far.

Hes desperately trying to make a point and keeps failing

acvtually I have been responding to bliss, tdk and beasty....yall have been repeating the same old same old.

and yes tdk you called me a dumbass for the clips....you want to see yet

 

[goodlove]

If youre worried about youre right to live there are things putting your life in danger way more than guns.

dude I just showed you why but you cant put up a decent reason on why a person should have 30 rounds on a hand gun.

so explain why should you need a 30 round clip.

What next? Why do I need more than 500 horses under my hood? Why do I need more than one source of pussy?

horse power in a car is made to kill people? I believe having a fast car wasnt built to kill people. banging more than one woman isnt assault ....thats between consensual people. the kids getting shot at that school didnt consent to that...nor did the adults.

just answer the question. why do you need 30 rounds or 100? why is it unreasonable to just cap at 10?

why are you deflecting?

A nissan GTR was not built to help criminals escape from Cops but it is possible for that to happen. Just like guns were not built to use against innocent people, or they would have never been legal to begin with. Fact is I can beak the law by exceeding the speed limit in a fast car, with your logic why should we allow manufacturers to produce cars that go faster than the 55mph speed limit? Answer that?

the logic is that there arent any meaningful regulations and restrictions. again you are saying its ok that loughner holding 30 rounds and its ok to snuff 6 and injure 13. thus his hit rate 19/31. thus if he had just 10 maybe just maybe over 1/2 of the people would be alive and not injured.

now explain why should a person need 30?

we have regulations on manufactures....seat belts and cars must meet govt regulations for accidents. now explain why shouldnt the gun manufacturer?

also there are speed limits (car regulations on drivers) . The car must be registered on every sale. why cant a gun?

I will be more than happy to the very moment you explain why a person needs a car that goes faster than the speed limit. :smt039

why do you need a 30 round clip?

also is this your leader?

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Why do you need a car to go 200 miles an hour? What purpose does it serve? Speed limit is at most 65. :smt069

Same thing with 30 round clips. Apart than for multiple assailants, some people like to go to indoor/outdoor ranges and just shoot at targets, tin cans, melons, clays, whatever.

You do know there is an OLYMPIC SPORT called Skeeting, right? Yeah, how about that...guns at the Olympics. BAN them now! :-x





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_skeet

The problem with you anti-gun people is that you refuse to be honest about what this is really about. You claim to be afraid of how many guns out there and think limiting clip size and restricting the law abiding will some how make you feel safer when the real issue is you refuse to see the nature of people.
You think nicely regulated laws will keep things like Sandy Hook and Aurora from happening when the reality is that removing the instrument of death from those hell bent on death have never been successful before so why would it now? Cowardly and/or insane people will always find a way. We can not hide from them all the time, there will be a point where we are forced to confront them. Giving all rights and powers to someone else praying they always do the right thing is childish and naive. How many times do we need to see examples where a government takes the rights of the people away when they see fit? A small concentration of powerful people who have shown us over and over that they could give a fuck less about the people are suppose to care about our safety? Motherfucka please. And save the arguments that if a government wanted to take out the people they would send the marines and just carpet bomb the fuck out of the area. Strategically that wouldn't make sense but if it came down to it I would much rather be able to shoot back than to under my bed like a coward praying that someone else saves me.
I think the problem a lot of you have is that you fail to realize that their is no such thing as safety. You're in danger all the times just sometimes more so than others.

As for GL dumb ass question why do I need a 30 round clip? So I have 30 opportunities to take out a motherfucka who is trying to harm me.Again all you "your right to own a gun shouldn't infringe on my right to live" whiners how about you take that fight to companies who pollute the fuck out of your food and water which kill hundreds of thousands to millions per year but since its not on the news all the time you geniuses don't know it huh.
Shit if your right to live is so important. No more alcohol no more individual driving only public transportation. Its cheaper and a lot more SAFE. No more knives bigger than someone's palm what the hell do you need with knives bigger than that for unless you're a butcher we gotta people safe dammit.

Go live in a bubble if you want to that's fine but don't try to require me to do it as well and rely solely on the altruism of other people to do the right thing by me. Its childish and ridiculous.

what were you saying? oh yes....because I disagreed with one thing I could him a dumbass? hhhhmmmm yes you did.

 

[goodlove]

Hold on so I dont agree with one thing Im calling him a dumbass? You aight?
You know the most amount of posts doesnt mean you win right little buddy?

LOL. He's confused.

He keeps responding to his own posts, too. Easily ten times so far.

Hes desperately trying to make a point and keeps failing

what were you saying? oh yes....because I disagreed with one thing I could him a dumbass? hhhhmmmm yes you did.

The problem with you anti-gun people is that you refuse to be honest about what this is really about. You claim to be afraid of how many guns out there and think limiting clip size and restricting the law abiding will some how make you feel safer when the real issue is you refuse to see the nature of people.
You think nicely regulated laws will keep things like Sandy Hook and Aurora from happening when the reality is that removing the instrument of death from those hell bent on death have never been successful before so why would it now? Cowardly and/or insane people will always find a way. We can not hide from them all the time, there will be a point where we are forced to confront them. Giving all rights and powers to someone else praying they always do the right thing is childish and naive. How many times do we need to see examples where a government takes the rights of the people away when they see fit? A small concentration of powerful people who have shown us over and over that they could give a fuck less about the people are suppose to care about our safety? Motherfucka please. And save the arguments that if a government wanted to take out the people they would send the marines and just carpet bomb the fuck out of the area. Strategically that wouldn't make sense but if it came down to it I would much rather be able to shoot back than to under my bed like a coward praying that someone else saves me.
I think the problem a lot of you have is that you fail to realize that their is no such thing as safety. You're in danger all the times just sometimes more so than others.

As for GL dumb ass question why do I need a 30 round clip? So I have 30 opportunities to take out a motherfucka who is trying to harm me.
Again all you "your right to own a gun shouldn't infringe on my right to live" whiners how about you take that fight to companies who pollute the fuck out of your food and water which kill hundreds of thousands to millions per year but since its not on the news all the time you geniuses don't know it huh.
Shit if your right to live is so important. No more alcohol no more individual driving only public transportation. Its cheaper and a lot more SAFE. No more knives bigger than someone's palm what the hell do you need with knives bigger than that for unless you're a butcher we gotta people safe dammit.

Go live in a bubble if you want to that's fine but don't try to require me to do it as well and rely solely on the altruism of other people to do the right thing by me. Its childish and ridiculous.

is that you saying Im a dumbass off of one thing?

you are so evil you cant keep up with it.

who is confused?

uuuhhhh hello?

and if you look at the posts I was talking to beasty....who was being a moron in comparing a car to a gun. how intellectually dishonest a person can be? then he goes on to compare wwbm relationships to the 2nd amendment. what the fuck? yes I spelled the whole shit out

yes you.

 

[Beasty]

in other words....you went back and looked and you realized you couldnt draw the line you thought you could. you saw the stupidity in what you were saying. LOL.

you cant intellectually debate the facts and logic so you throw out cars ,IR, and insults but not one time you can support how the your 2nd amendment rights is being erased by regulations that I, the prez and other millions of americans are asking for.


deflector shields are up scotty. LOL

so now you explain how yiour 2nd amendment rites are being taken away with those restrictions?....hint go to the NRA and the KKK and get the answer

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you just trying to deflect from the shit you said about blacks not having constitutional rights, so what the fuck was you doing in grade school when they metioned black history? Probably sucking on your thumb and copying from your neighbors test paper. Now millions of people can hit Google and laugh at the dumb shit you said

 

[The Dark King]

is that you saying Im a dumbass off of one thing?

you are so evil you cant keep up with it.

who is confused?

uuuhhhh hello?

and if you look at the posts I was talking to beasty....who was being a moron in comparing a car to a gun. how intellectually dishonest a person can be? then he goes on to compare wwbm relationships to the 2nd amendment. what the fuck? yes I spelled the whole shit out

yes you.

GL its posts like these that make me call you a dumbass. Beasty compared two dofferent sets of freedoms when he compared driving to guns. Two things we have the riht to own and purchase that can cause death yet one isnt banned or restricted the way the other one is. People accept car accidents amd drunk driving as necessary risks for being able to use cars.
He also compared the 2nd ammendment to dating white women because you unrelentlessly keep bringing up the fact that when they made the law blacks werent included in type of citizens allowed to participate. His point and mine as well is then you should apply the same logic to dating and marrying white women. The laws werent in favor of that union until the 1960s but you dont run around saying dont marry that white woman because "they" never intended for black men to marry white women.

 

[goodlove]

GL its posts like these that make me call you a dumbass. Beasty compared two dofferent sets of freedoms when he compared driving to guns. Two things we have the riht to own and purchase that can cause death yet one isnt banned or restricted the way the other one is. People accept car accidents amd drunk driving as necessary risks for being able to use cars.
He also compared the 2nd ammendment to dating white women because you unrelentlessly keep bringing up the fact that when they made the law blacks werent included in type of citizens allowed to participate. His point and mine as well is then you should apply the same logic to dating and marrying white women. The laws werent in favor of that union until the 1960s but you dont run around saying dont marry that white woman because "they" never intended for black men to marry white women.

hey dumb shit....he was comparing owning/use of a car versus a gun. I told him specifically the difference....go back and read.

guns are not banned and not as restricted as cars are.

Go back and you will see where I stated that a car must be registered on every sale....a gun doesnt.

people dont necessarily accept accidents...if they did then why did people/govt campaign for seat belts and crash tests and have cars engineered for crash. example; a car made in germany must meet the crash spec's for america if you buy it germany and transfer here .

guns dont have those kind of restrictions.

lastly you can not compare guns to cars due to the intended use.

damn.