Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners' Names and Addresses

[Alinoa]

^^^^A big reason why gun regulation makes no sense ^^^^

One minute an AR-15 is too scary too be legal, the next minute we should not have anything more powerful than a 9mm, now we should only have one glock because two is to many. :smt100

Oh for fucks sake..
Any thing in excess is too many.
Not just guns.

People who drive 5 Lexus are obnoxious also.

At some point it crosses a line and then you're just being tawdry and full of your own ego.

 

[Beasty]

Oh for fucks sake..
Any thing in excess is too many.
Not just guns.

People who drive 5 Lexus are obnoxious also.

At some point it crosses a line and then you're just being tawdry and full of your own ego.

My goodness Alinoa, if you get in power you may not even let grown folk come outside after 9 pm. How many pair of shoes am I allowed to own?? :smt081

 

[The Dark King]

I've seen grown men throw blows with a stranger when they find out their wife is cheating on them. I've seen grown men threaten to kick a mechanic's ass for shoddy repair work. People have bad days sometimes and things just blow.:shock:

Guns to me are just very antisocial. Whenever I'm at someone's crib and I know they have a firearm I just get really uncomfortable, especially if it's someone I don't know well.

Its tje reason why people dont smash their cars into people who cut them off or steal everywhere they go. Its all about self interest. Most people dont want to deal with the consequemces so they wont do dumb shit like that.

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[The Dark King]

Why would anyone need a couple of glocks for home protection?
A couple?
Is one not enough? How many guns do you need to protect yourself, actually? So if you have one glock and shoot every single round...you need the second glock to keep missing? Or you need two because you want to John Wayne it up?
Who seriously needs a couple of any kind of gun for self protection? Especially if its a one shot, one kill?

It's like...how many coach bags do I need before it starts to get ridiculous and now I'm just being a twat?

Same with guns.

And I can give you stats out the okole that show that mentally ill people are not the problem you think we are.
Just like you can give me proof that backs aren't the problem most people who have no idea what the fuck they are talking about think they are.
Do you honestly think a suburbanite white collar snob in a high end house is ever going to think a young black man from the hood won't grow up to be a gang banging thug?
My fat ass.

Just like some glock collecting gun owner would never thnk that someone who has bipolar wouldn't take those guns and shoot 'em up at the local fucking mall.
I can give you numbers and numbers on how MOST mentally ill people would never do such a thing.
Or I can just tell you I'm living breathing proof that mentally ill people prove less of a danger to most other people than most people who are afraid of mental illness would like to admit. Talk about irrational and fear based thinking.

And if your are going to talk about the stats regarding the mentally ill and shooting sprees then why are you not digging in on the the white male factor?

Fair is fair.

A lot of guys I know have two because they might have a bigger home and need one in close proximity. A gun is no good to you if you cant get to it in time or you might have one for your spouse to have then back you up.
Theres nothing wrog with multiple guns as long as youre responsible.
And Im sorry but mental illness isnt the same as race. There is actually somethin biological that might cause a person with a certain illness to snap and harm others. My mom works on the psych unit and has been attacked by patients for years. A lot (not all) lose touch with reality and are a danger to themselves as well as others. Being black doesnt biologically motivate you to do certain actions. Its not a good comparison sorry. I brought up the white male thing in another thread but aparently others think its racist to focus on race even though these guys have that yrait in common. Personappy I think this countrybis so paranoid of black mem that we would rarely be in a position to do shit like that.

 

[Alinoa]

My goodness Alinoa, if you get in power you may not even let grown folk come outside after 9 pm. How many pair of shoes am I allowed to own?? :smt081

I do not seek to be in power.

And you can own as many shoes as you want, sir. I won't police you as you are a grown ass adult.

But if you feel the need to own enough arms to take out a small army...???

I may wonder what it is you are ultimately compensating for.

That however will always be between you and your own gods.

 

[Alinoa]

A lot of guys I know have two because they might have a bigger home and need one in close proximity. A gun is no good to you if you cant get to it in time or you might have one for your spouse to have then back you up.
Theres nothing wrog with multiple guns as long as youre responsible.
And Im sorry but mental illness isnt the same as race. There is actually somethin biological that might cause a person with a certain illness to snap and harm others. My mom works on the psych unit and has been attacked by patients for years. A lot (not all) lose touch with reality and are a danger to themselves as well as others. Being black doesnt biologically motivate you to do certain actions. Its not a good comparison sorry. I brought up the white male thing in another thread but aparently others think its racist to focus on race even though these guys have that yrait in common. Personappy I think this countrybis so paranoid of black mem that we would rarely be in a position to do shit like that.

So easy for you to make that distinction when it suits you, no?

So...not choosing to be black and not choosing to be mentally ill are not the same thing?

When it applies to you in a personal way you can justify it every which way from center and yet when it doesn't its so easy to negate it.

Typical.

 

[pettyofficerj]

I do not seek to be in power.

And you can own as many shoes as you want, sir. I won't police you as you are a grown ass adult.

But if you feel the need to own enough arms to take out a small army...???

I may wonder what it is you are ultimately compensating for.

That however will always be between you and your own gods.

this is getting old

gun owners aren't compensating for whatever, anymore than anyone else in this world

 

[wtarshi]

Mentally ill kill
Black on black crime
White male serial killers

Have we covered it all?

 

[The Dark King]

So easy for you to make that distinction when it suits you, no?

So...not choosing to be black and not choosing to be mentally ill are not the same thing?

When it applies to you in a personal way you can justify it every which way from center and yet when it doesn't its so easy to negate it.

Typical.

Show me anything to back up the notion that being black biologicallt causes one to be violent. I can show you volumes on mental illness. Keep telling yourself that race and mi are the same thing buddy

 

[Alinoa]

Show me anything to back up the notion that being black biologicallt causes one to be violent. I can show you volumes on mental illness. Keep telling yourself that race and mi are the same thing buddy

I know for a farking fact that you are not this stupid. I know you aren't..so stop acting like you are.

The stereotypes that go into everyone thinking one way or another is what I've repeatedly tried to address in my posts.

And the reason I've used the African American/black comparison is because its something you are intimately familiar with. While you can never comprehend that some people will dislike me because I'm a card carrier..you can understand the concept of someone being afraid of you based on your skin color alone.
If you don't like that assumption..
Under what circumstance would you think a mentally ill person who poses no threat to another would like that same assumption based in misconception and fear?

But you keep telling yourself that stereotypes aren't based on common ignorance, buddy.

 

[The Dark King]

I know for a farking fact that you are not this stupid. I know you aren't..so stop acting like you are.

The stereotypes that go into everyone thinking one way or another is what I've repeatedly tried to address in my posts.

And the reason I've used the African American/black comparison is because its something you are intimately familiar with. While you can never comprehend that some people will dislike me because I'm a card carrier..you can understand the concept of someone being afraid of you based on your skin color alone.
If you don't like that assumption..
Under what circumstance would you think a mentally ill person who poses no threat to another would like that same assumption based in misconception and fear?

But you keep telling yourself that stereotypes aren't based on common ignorance, buddy.

The mi are not usually in touch with reality. Such a false comparison. If you need medication to function amongst regular people theres a huge problem

 

[Bliss]

You keep ignoring the big issue of guns that ate already here and guns that can be shipped in illegally across the border.
Also you cant tell me a person who kills a shit ton of innocent people isnt crazy. They may go undiagnosed but someone who has a grip on reality doesnt kill innocent people because the day went bad. But its worth noting that going postal and spree killings are incredibly rate and you love to point out how many guns there are but its a testament to how sane and responsible most people are since the firearm owners to death by firearms is insanely low. So if guns wete truly the problem wouldnt there be more killings

Don't hit em with too much logic. Making sense is an anomaly to them.

 

[andreboba]

The mi are not usually in touch with reality. Such a false comparison. If you need medication to function amongst regular people theres a huge problem

You should quit while you're behind DK.
There are all sorts of clinical mental disorders that require psychiatric treatment. Saying someone is not in touch with reality is such a broad and nonspecific statement, and an unfair one.

THere was a time when my uncle was on the street homeless. WHen he got stabilized after a 6 month stay at a psych hospital to get the correct levels for his meds, he was ALWAYS the first person who knew when his meds were slightly off and his dosage had to adjusted.

THe biggest problem that I've seen most people battling MI have to deal with isn't coping with other people, it's learning to live with THEMSELVES and their illness.

Just saying, making a statement that,'the MI are not usually in touch with reality', really is only accurate for someone who's experiencing a profound psychotic break and only covers a very narrow type of condition.

OCD?? Mental Illness.
Clinical depression?? Mental illness.

Unresolved issues from your childhood that negatively impact your adult life and the personal and professional decisions you make?? Mental illness.

Mental illness doesn't just mean schizophrenia.

 

[The Dark King]

You should quit while you're behind DK.
There are all sorts of clinical mental disorders that require psychiatric treatment. Saying someone is not in touch with reality is such a broad and nonspecific statement, and an unfair one.

THere was a time when my uncle was on the street homeless. WHen he got stabilized after a 6 month stay at a psych hospital to get the correct levels for his meds, he was ALWAYS the first person who knew when his meds were slightly off and his dosage had to adjusted.

THe biggest problem that I've seen most people battling MI have to deal with isn't coping with other people, it's learning to live with THEMSELVES and their illness.

Just saying, making a statement that,'the MI are not usually in touch with reality', really is only accurate for someone who's experiencing a profound psychotic break and only covers a very narrow type of condition.

OCD?? Mental Illness.
Clinical depression?? Mental illness.

Unresolved issues from your childhood that negatively impact your adult life and the personal and professional decisions you make?? Mental illness.

Mental illness doesn't just mean schizophrenia.

Touching the door knob five times so you can open it without freakibg out suggests some type of break to me.
Having a chemical imbalance that makes the thought of leaving bed unbateable sounds like a break.
Look Im not going to debate the merits of others illnessrs but in context to what we are talking about there is no denying mi is the major reason for these shootings. Thats all Im saying. Are all people with mi issues gonna snap and kill people? Of course not but just like cops we should all take pysch evals to own guns

 

[Bliss]

You should quit while you're behind DK.
There are all sorts of clinical mental disorders that require psychiatric treatment. Saying someone is not in touch with reality is such a broad and nonspecific statement, and an unfair one.

THere was a time when my uncle was on the street homeless. WHen he got stabilized after a 6 month stay at a psych hospital to get the correct levels for his meds, he was ALWAYS the first person who knew when his meds were slightly off and his dosage had to adjusted.

THe biggest problem that I've seen most people battling MI have to deal with isn't coping with other people, it's learning to live with THEMSELVES and their illness.

Just saying, making a statement that,'the MI are not usually in touch with reality', really is only accurate for someone who's experiencing a profound psychotic break and only covers a very narrow type of condition.

OCD?? Mental Illness.
Clinical depression?? Mental illness.

Unresolved issues from your childhood that negatively impact your adult life and the personal and professional decisions you make?? Mental illness.

Mental illness doesn't just mean schizophrenia.

TDK is hardly behind - his arguments are full of merit.

I'm sorry, just because mental illness touches you personally, it doesn't absolve the fact that MI is the instigator in mass killing sprees and a gun or any weapon is mitigatory. Name one person who did that and was sane as day.

One worker here at Nabisco became increasingly delusional paranoid towards her co-workers, and they fired her because of her erratic behavior. She returned and killed 2 co-workers before being stopped.

Show me the sanity in her behavior.

 

[Alinoa]

The mi are not usually in touch with reality. Such a false comparison. If you need medication to function amongst regular people theres a huge problem

Well, that's a fucking fair assessment from a person who will never know what a struggle it is not have to do routines to feel somewhat normal.

Here's a clue for you insensitivity:

We don't like having OCD either. It's not fun to have to fold the towels in a certain way, color coded and all facing a certain direction because of flashbacks from trauma.

You define psychosis TDK.

I have been admitted to the ER in a state of what most people would consider a break with reality.
But I knew I was sick. I knew I wasn't thinking clearly. When I was evaluated in ER by BHR..
I wasnt admitted because even though I was in a psychotic state, I knew I was psychotic.
So upon eval with pdoc the question became when you are psychotic but know you are psychotic, are you psychotic?
It became a running joke.

 

[Bliss]

Well, some interesting updates on this case...

The list was obtained only after the paper filed under the FOA (which interestingly normally takes at least a month to be granted). So it isn't simple public record where you can just run down to City Hall like it was implied by Huntress. It was a specific request for full (or partial disclosure) of unreleased information.

The newspaper published the name and address of the District Attorney, which is in violation of the law. It will be up to her to prosecute them. Oh the irony.

They also published the name of one of their own reporters. Oh the irony.

 

[Beasty]

this is getting old

gun owners aren't compensating for whatever, anymore than anyone else in this world

Yeah, and I am sure you heard that people who work out in the gym are compensating for something too. So you should just sit on your couch and drink beer instead.

 

[The Dark King]

Well, some interesting updates on this case...

The list was obtained only after the paper filed under the FOA (which interestingly normally takes at least a month to be granted). So it isn't simple public record where you can just run down to City Hall like it was implied by Huntress. It was a specific request for full (or partial disclosure) of unreleased information.

The newspaper published the name and address of the District Attorney, which is in violation of the law. It will be up to her to prosecute them. Oh the irony.

They also published the name of one of their own reporters. Oh the irony.

Awesome. Hope they get fined heavily

 

[The Dark King]

Yeah, and I am sure you heard that people who work out in the gym are compensating for something too. So you should just sit on your couch and drink beer instead.

And my favorite. Us black men love white women because we are compensating for our self hatred. smdh