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The Dark King said:
Funny how rape is so touchy now but no one was too concerned when Jaimie raped Cersei after Geoffry died, guess she deserved it huh.
No one cared when dude was raping his daughters and feeding is grandsons to the white walkers. It always amazes me that level of how horrible something is is usually proportionate to either how pretty or likable the victim is.
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God if little aria got raped, the show would have been completely destroyed
 
pettyofficerj said:
God if little aria got raped, the show would have been completely destroyed
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yup shit didn't the Stormborn girl go through the same thing with Kaldrago in the first season but I guess it didn't count since he was so good looking?
Same exact thing, sold against her will to further someone else's agenda and raped on her wedding night. Only difference is that he wasn't a little sadistic weasel about it.
 
The Sansa rape scene freaks people out (deservedly so) because we live in a society that is still hardwired to feel overprotective of women. We however are also hardwired to be indifferent to the suffering of men.

It's why a offscreen sexual assault of Sansa causes more uproar than the onscreen sexual mutilation of Theon (Yes violently cutting off someones reproductive organs is sexual assault)
 
Thump said:
The Sansa rape scene freaks people out (deservedly so) because we live in a society that is still hardwired to feel overprotective of women. We however are also hardwired to be indifferent to the suffering of men.

It's why a offscreen sexual assault of Sansa causes more uproar than the onscreen sexual mutilation of Theon (Yes violently cutting off someones reproductive organs is sexual assault)
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Very good point I forgot about that too.
I hate this Ramsey kid way more than Geoffrey. His death will be most enjoyable
 
The Dark King said:
Funny how rape is so touchy now but no one was too concerned when Jaimie raped Cersei after Geoffry died, guess she deserved it huh.
No one cared when dude was raping his daughters and feeding is grandsons to the white walkers. It always amazes me that level of how horrible something is is usually proportionate to either how pretty or likable the victim is.
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Thump said:
The Sansa rape scene freaks people out (deservedly so) because we live in a society that is still hardwired to feel overprotective of women. We however are also hardwired to be indifferent to the suffering of men.

It's why a offscreen sexual assault of Sansa causes more uproar than the onscreen sexual mutilation of Theon (Yes violently cutting off someones reproductive organs is sexual assault)
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A lot of people (even though it's wrong) have little or no sympathy when horrible things happen to those they deem as horrible people. Some also see it as bad people getting payback for the terrible things they've done.

I wouldn't call society overprotective of women, but I do agree that there is a lot of indifference when it comes to men being victims of rape and abuse (I also agree that sexual mutilation is sexual assault). There's also a huge lack of awareness when it comes to male victims.

As for the show, folks have come to know the characters and like/love/dislike/hate them accordingly. Of course they're going to sympathize more with their favored characters and have a stronger reaction when things happen to them. Right or wrong, that's human nature.
 
Tamstrong said:
The Sand Snakes storyline on the show is lame and boring as hell, and it doesn't help that the women playing them suck at acting. Such a disappointing waste of valuable screen time.
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Tamstrong said:
A lot of people (even though it's wrong) have little or no sympathy when horrible things happen to those they deem as horrible people. Some also see it as bad people getting payback for the terrible things they've done.

I wouldn't call society overprotective of women, but I do agree that there is a lot of indifference when it comes to men being victims of rape and abuse (I also agree that sexual mutilation is sexual assault). There's also a huge lack of awareness when it comes to male victims.

As for the show, folks have come to know the characters and like/love/dislike/hate them accordingly. Of course they're going to sympathize more with their favored characters and have a stronger reaction when things happen to them. Right or wrong, that's human nature.
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What Danerys she was well liked but no one really seemed to care about her rape. Was it because of who was doing the raping?
 
As harsh as the scene was, I don't think it was gratuitous. It was committed by the most monstrous character on the show. Anything less would have been lame. Brutality is a key ingredient in the show, in my opinion. It's the threat that is always in the background of every interaction. I didn't read the books, but I do know that directors have to merge actions and characters to move things along in a movie/series in a way that authors don't. I'm thinking of Peter Jackson's many liberties with The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings.
 
orejon4 said:
As harsh as the scene was, I don't think it was gratuitous. It was committed by the most monstrous character on the show. Anything less would have been lame. Brutality is a key ingredient in the show, in my opinion. It's the threat that is always in the background of every interaction. I didn't read the books, but I do know that directors have to merge actions and characters to move things along in a movie/series in a way that authors don't. I'm thinking of Peter Jackson's many liberties with The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings.
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And that's the interesting thing about the whole scene however: They didn't actually show Ramsey raping Sansa. Everything was based on knowing what a totally depraved shit Ramsey is, Sansa's painful groans and Reek/Theon's expression as he watched. The actual horror was knowing what was taking place.
 
Ra said:
And that's the interesting thing about the whole scene however: They didn't actually show Ramsey raping Sansa. Everything was based on knowing what a totally depraved shit Ramsey is, Sansa's painful groans and Reek/Theon's expression as he watched. The actual horror was knowing what was taking place.
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You're right. If I have to hear one more radio round table about how horrible it was, or Claire McCaskill's "righteous" indignation, I'm going to hurl. She can support the use of drones day and night, but one implied scene on a fictional television show offends her fine sensibilities.
 
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