Rachel Dolezal NAACP controversy

samson1701;973883 [B said:
This whole thing is being blown way out of proportion because of one racist question; why would anyone want to be black? That, and black women feel even more threatened by white women now that one actually passed herself off as one of them.[/B]
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Would rep ya but this forum has some BS rules about giving posters too much rep.:smt078


THIS...ALL....DAY.^^^^^^


To top it off Ms. Dolezal said her position as the president of the Spokane branch of the NAACP was an UNPAID job. Totally volunteer.


As for her parents, I'd be careful taking anything they say as 100%.
The woman is estranged from her birth parents and apparently it has much more to do than with her desire to be Black and their messing up her program.
Remember her 'loving' parents put her on blast, the same parents she hasn't spoken to for years.

Melissa Harris Perry last night said the one part of this story that should not be overlooked is the premise that someone who would WANT to pass for Black is inherently crazy.

That's the real racist assumption behind this whole story, not that Ms. Dolezal lived her life 24/7 as a Black woman.

People keep saying she had the option to flee back to her Whiteness when it benefited her, but that never happened.

Look, it's not like Ms. Dolezal was screaming to strangers 'I'M BLACK!!'. For the most part people just made the assumption and she didn't correct them.

Normally when I read about someone perpetrating I get really heated.

If you didn't go to Yale undergrad stop wearing all that alumni gear. If you didn't serve in the military quit showing people your fake ass medals.

At work if you're an RN, stop telling chicks you're an MD at the clubs and giving medical advice.


All of us know White people who socially, culturally, emotionally and politically are living their version of the Black experience.

And before anyone says this kind of Black experience isn't authentic, when someone calls you a nigger lover or worse because most of your friends and acquaintances are Black, or you date Black, or have biracial kids and live among Blacks, etc., you're experiencing a slice of the bias and discrimination that comes with having brown skin.

THat's how powerful racism is in this country; if you associate too closely with Blacks on a personal level, that same racism at some point will be directed at YOU.

Why do most people in the media love to hate on Kim K???

Lastly, would people be as upset with Ms. Dolezal if she said instead 'I feel a little bit Black', instead of declaring she identifies as Black??

Because I know a lot of White folk who would say they feel this way and no one would care.
 
andreboba said:
Would rep ya but this forum has some BS rules about giving posters too much rep.:smt078


THIS...ALL....DAY.^^^^^^


To top it off Ms. Dolezal said her position as the president of the Spokane branch of the NAACP was an UNPAID job. Totally volunteer.


As for her parents, I'd be careful taking anything they say as 100%.
The woman is estranged from her birth parents and apparently it has much more to do than with her desire to be Black and their messing up her program.
Remember her 'loving' parents put her on blast, the same parents she hasn't spoken to for years.

Melissa Harris Perry last night said the one part of this story that should not be overlooked is the premise that someone who would WANT to pass for Black is inherently crazy.

That's the real racist assumption behind this whole story, not that Ms. Dolezal lived her life 24/7 as a Black woman.
People keep saying she had the option to flee back to her Whiteness when it benefited her, but that never happened.

Look, it's not like Ms. Dolezal was screaming to strangers 'I'M BLACK!!'. For the most part people just made the assumption and she didn't correct them.

Normally when I read about someone perpetrating I get really heated.

If you didn't go to Yale undergrad stop wearing all that alumni gear. If you didn't serve in the military quit showing people your fake ass medals.

At work if you're an RN, stop telling chicks you're an MD at the clubs and giving medical advice.


All of us know White people who socially, culturally, emotionally and politically are living their version of the Black experience.

And before anyone says this kind of Black experience isn't authentic, when someone calls you a nigger lover or worse because most of your friends and acquaintances are Black, or you date Black, or have biracial kids and live among Blacks, etc., you're experiencing a slice of the bias and discrimination that comes with having brown skin.

THat's how powerful racism is in this country; if you associate too closely with Blacks on a personal level, that same racism at some point will be directed at YOU.

Why do most people in the media love to hate on Kim K???

Lastly, would people be as upset with Ms. Dolezal if she said instead 'I feel a little bit Black', instead of declaring she identifies as Black??

Because I know a lot of White folk who would say they feel this way and no one would care.
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andreboba said:
Would rep ya but this forum has some BS rules about giving posters too much rep.:smt078


THIS...ALL....DAY.^^^^^^


To top it off Ms. Dolezal said her position as the president of the Spokane branch of the NAACP was an UNPAID job. Totally volunteer.


As for her parents, I'd be careful taking anything they say as 100%.
The woman is estranged from her birth parents and apparently it has much more to do than with her desire to be Black and their messing up her program.
Remember her 'loving' parents put her on blast, the same parents she hasn't spoken to for years.

Melissa Harris Perry last night said the one part of this story that should not be overlooked is the premise that someone who would WANT to pass for Black is inherently crazy.

That's the real racist assumption behind this whole story, not that Ms. Dolezal lived her life 24/7 as a Black woman.

People keep saying she had the option to flee back to her Whiteness when it benefited her, but that never happened.

Look, it's not like Ms. Dolezal was screaming to strangers 'I'M BLACK!!'. For the most part people just made the assumption and she didn't correct them.

Normally when I read about someone perpetrating I get really heated.

If you didn't go to Yale undergrad stop wearing all that alumni gear. If you didn't serve in the military quit showing people your fake ass medals.

At work if you're an RN, stop telling chicks you're an MD at the clubs and giving medical advice.


All of us know White people who socially, culturally, emotionally and politically are living their version of the Black experience.

And before anyone says this kind of Black experience isn't authentic, when someone calls you a nigger lover or worse because most of your friends and acquaintances are Black, or you date Black, or have biracial kids and live among Blacks, etc., you're experiencing a slice of the bias and discrimination that comes with having brown skin.

THat's how powerful racism is in this country; if you associate too closely with Blacks on a personal level, that same racism at some point will be directed at YOU.

Why do most people in the media love to hate on Kim K???

Lastly, would people be as upset with Ms. Dolezal if she said instead 'I feel a little bit Black', instead of declaring she identifies as Black??

Because I know a lot of White folk who would say they feel this way and no one would care.
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NAACP presidency is volunteer work? I've been searching and found nothing to back that up. Got a link?
 
The Dark King said:
NAACP presidency is volunteer work? I've been searching and found nothing to back that up. Got a link?
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All the regional jobs are unpaid, not the national presidency.

If you become the regional president of the New Haven chapter of the NAACP, there's no paycheck.

Yes there are salaried positions in the NAACP, but being the head of the NAACP chapter in a particular town or city according to Dolezal is unpaid, which makes sense.

It's not like she was the head of the NAACP for Washington State.

Basically Dolezal was the NAACP rep in Spokane with a fancy title behind her.

TDK, do you not have internet access???

Take 10 seconds and google your own answer.

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One of her own sons broke it down best;

'Mom, your race is HUMAN. Your cultural identification is BLACK.'


End of story.

The White media is holding on to this story like a dog with a bone for all the wrong reasons.
 
Beasty said:
Ok read this post when you come down.


You can't get a minority scholarship if you are not a minority.

What black school do you know of where black people are minorities??
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Actually...this is not necessarily true. There are all sorts of private scholarships that can have all sorts of (sometimes bizarre) requirements. They have some that are super specific (often set up because someone passed away and donated money for scholarship) such as you must be a Black left handed single woman with at least 3 children who is returning back to school after many years to be eligible.
 
KinCA said:
Actually...this is not necessarily true. There are all sorts of private scholarships that can have all sorts of (sometimes bizarre) requirements. They have some that are super specific (often set up because someone passed away and donated money for scholarship) such as you must be a Black left handed single woman with at least 3 children who is returning back to school after many years to be eligible.
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Link?
 
goodlove said:
https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/dad-to-rachel-dolezal-raising-black-kids-doesnt-121689872407.html


Another view on it
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Exactly. I'm raising a Black child....it doesn't make me Black, Bi-racial, etc. And my daughter didn't suddenly become Bi-racial or white the moment the papers were signed.

Hell I have people ask me to show them how to do natural Black hair all the time, but that doesn't mean I turned Black because I'm good at doing natural Black hair either. (This chick has given speeches about hair journey)

I'm just really amazed that people are so dismissive of the whole thing. I think she has made a mockery of things. Not only that, but I have to think that it would be looked at MUCH differently if this was a white guy exposed for the same things.
 
KinCA said:
Exactly. I'm raising a Black child....it doesn't make me Black, Bi-racial, etc. And my daughter didn't suddenly become Bi-racial or white the moment the papers were signed.

Hell I have people ask me to show them how to do natural Black hair all the time, but that doesn't mean I turned Black because I'm good at doing natural Black hair either. (This chick has given speeches about hair journey)

I'm just really amazed that people are so dismissive of the whole thing. I think she has made a mockery of things. Not only that, but I have to think that it would be looked at MUCH differently if this was a white guy exposed for the same things.
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So much for white male privilege
 
Beasty said:
Link?
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Darling - I made that up. I however, did receive a scholarship that is about as screwy as that one. Private scholarships can be whatever people who are paying for them want them to be. That was my point and that no matter what the school, there can be such scholarships.

I have no idea what scholarships she was awarded, or not. However, if she did apply for scholarships that clearly stated they were for Black students then that would be fraud. I would guess that she hadn't done that, but who knows with all the different things she's said and done.
 
KinCA said:
Darling - I made that up. I however, did receive a scholarship that is about as screwy as that one. Private scholarships can be whatever people who are paying for them want them to be. That was my point and that no matter what the school, there can be such scholarships.

I have no idea what scholarships she was awarded, or not. However, if she did apply for scholarships that clearly stated they were for Black students then that would be fraud. I would guess that she hadn't done that, but who knows with all the different things she's said and done.
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So you are talking possible in lieu of probable, practical, common, or logical.

OK

Well if you want to go with the anything is possible point of view while knowing reasonable adults don't engage that type of ineffective thought process on a day to day basis........

Actually it's not a thought process at all. Anyone can simply say anything is possible in lieu of thinking.
 
She won the scholarship as a ww...they didnt know she was ww until registration. She didnt fake the funk for it


KinCA said:
Darling - I made that up. I however, did receive a scholarship that is about as screwy as that one. Private scholarships can be whatever people who are paying for them want them to be. That was my point and that no matter what the school, there can be such scholarships.

I have no idea what scholarships she was awarded, or not. However, if she did apply for scholarships that clearly stated they were for Black students then that would be fraud. I would guess that she hadn't done that, but who knows with all the different things she's said and done.
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Im shocked that people are willing to give her a pass but iggy.....sheeeeeddddddd.

Fools lost their minds....dont screw with rap
 
Beasty said:
So you are talking possible in lieu of probable, practical, common, or logical.

OK

Well if you want to go with the anything is possible point of view while knowing reasonable adults don't engage that type of ineffective thought process on a day to day basis........

Actually it's not a thought process at all. Anyone can simply say anything is possible in lieu of thinking.
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No, private scholarships can be whatever the people who are creating and funding them choose for them to me. Have you ever taken a good look at scholarships and their eligibility requirements?

Most of the conversation has been conjecture. There are all sorts of assumptions being made without a lot of fact involved. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that. But it is what it is and one opinion/assumption is not more valid than another.

GL just said that she applied for scholarships as a WW. If that is indeed true, then there shouldn't be an issue of fraud in terms of scholarships.
 
KinCA said:
No, private scholarships can be whatever the people who are creating and funding them choose for them to me. Have you ever taken a good look at scholarships and their eligibility requirements?

Most of the conversation has been conjecture. There are all sorts of assumptions being made without a lot of fact involved. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that. But it is what it is and one opinion/assumption is not more valid than another.

GL just said that she applied for scholarships as a WW. If that is indeed true, then there shouldn't be an issue of fraud in terms of scholarships.
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People are offended by this women as if she did something to hurt someone. You got people reaching saying she hurt her parents as if they know details of that relationship, and as if they never hurt someone feelings before. Saying she hurt black victims of hate crimes as if black people were getting justice before this. Accusing her of getting a job and education and therefore profiting due to her lies about a social construct called race. All of which are lies that are no better than the lie she told when she lied about her "race".:smt048
 
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