combat roles to women?

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TheHuntress said:
Clearly, being the mental giants you are, you don't understand the difference between my comment and the ignorant fucktard who spoke above.
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when did you become so arrogant

it's only going to get worse when you finish your phd

:axe:

at least it's acquired arrogance tho..something you worked towards

unlike our male arrogance...which we're born with in the form of a dick

:p
 
pettyofficerj said:
when did you become so arrogant

it's only going to get worse when you finish your phd

:axe:

at least it's acquired arrogance tho..something you worked towards

unlike our male arrogance...which we're born with in the form of a dick

:p
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I'm not. You all are just pissing me off so bad lately that my normal attempts to be civil on this topic are lost. I don't actually think you're stupid, but I do think it was awfully prickish of you to not acknowledge the vast difference between the misogynist bullshit of the previous poster versus what I said to you guys. And I'm pretty sure you KNOW the difference, so act like the smart person I know you generally are and acknowledge it instead of continuing to perpetuate this constant men vs women bullshit.

TreePixie and I both said there are differences, but if a woman can MEET THE STANDARDS OF THE MEN, then she can join. I simply said that I don't understand how a man's physical ability was the litmus test for being able to fight from the beginning. Women and men do have different skill sets that I do believe can be an asset to the battlefield, but does that mean that everyone belongs there? No. There are certainly some men who don't belong there, too. Making it open to everyone means that the people who can pass the standards WILL and those who can't, WON'T, and then you'll have better qualified people fighting on the front lines. I don't see what the big fucking problem is with this concept.

My phd has nothing to do with it. I'm training to be a psychologist. Ya'll are fucking interesting in that regard.
 
TheHuntress said:
I'm not. You all are just pissing me off so bad lately that my normal attempts to be civil on this topic are lost. I don't actually think you're stupid, but I do think it was awfully prickish of you to not acknowledge the vast difference between the misogynist bullshit of the previous poster versus what I said to you guys. And I'm pretty sure you KNOW the difference, so act like the smart person I know you generally are and acknowledge it instead of continuing to perpetuate this constant men vs women bullshit.

TreePixie and I both said there are differences, but if a woman can MEET THE STANDARDS OF THE MEN, then she can join. I simply said that I don't understand how a man's physical ability was the litmus test for being able to fight from the beginning. Women and men do have different skill sets that I do believe can be an asset to the battlefield, but does that mean that everyone belongs there? No. There are certainly some men who don't belong there, too. Making it open to everyone means that the people who can pass the standards WILL and those who can't, WON'T, and then you'll have better qualified people fighting on the front lines. I don't see what the big fucking problem is with this concept.

My phd has nothing to do with it. I'm training to be a psychologist. Ya'll are fucking interesting in that regard.
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we'll provide you with the perfect subjects then

:p

like i said before, if women meet the standard i really don't give a shit

everything else I wrote was high fructose corn syrup
 
pettyofficerj said:
we'll provide you with the perfect subjects then

:p

like i said before, if women meet the standard i really don't give a shit

everything else I wrote was high fructose corn syrup
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You do on the daily. :)

I enjoy you, pettyofficer, I really do, even though you make me crazy sometimes. lol Not as crazy as the NYC Wunderkid, though. No one could touch that. ;)
 
TheHuntress said:
Industrial and organizational psychology.
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but i thought you liked history and stuff....keep remembering that museum pic you had up way back when...

and you have a right to be strong and steadfast in your actions here

you've already achieved what many males (who would indeed claim that women are not smart enough to do XYZ) have not, so you already know limits and ceilings can be broken
 
TheHuntress said:
You do on the daily. :)

I enjoy you, pettyofficer, I really do, even though you make me crazy sometimes. lol Not as crazy as the NYC Wunderkid, though. No one could touch that. ;)
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im flattered to have my name in the same paragraph as TDK

seriously I am

no one is trying to make you crazy tho...I talk a lot of shit and nonsense on the forums (it's the internet..come on now), and TRULY hope people aren't taking this too seriously
 
pettyofficerj said:
but i thought you liked history and stuff....keep remembering that museum pic you had up way back when...

and you have a right to be strong and steadfast in your actions here

you've already achieved what many males (who would indeed claim that women are not smart enough to do XYZ) have not, so you already know limits and ceilings can be broken
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I do. I love history, it's my thing on the side, but I am super passionate about workplace psychology, training, employee motivation, and cultural consonance. I kind of fell into this stuff when I started my MS in training and performance improvement and never looked back. Ten years ago, had you told me I'd be doing this, I'd have looked at you like you had 3000 heads. lol

And yes, limits and ceiling can be broken, or at least cracked. But I can also tell you that they still exist. I sat in my colloquium last summer where the professor in charge of trying to help us insulted me in front of the group and make a comment about silly women coming from an education background who think they can 'hack it' in the field of psychology, implying it is for men only. I reported him to the staff, as did a few other ladies at my table who were equally as appalled as I was.

And this was 2012, right? You'd think.

pettyofficerj said:
im flattered to have my name in the same paragraph as TDK

seriously I am

no one is trying to make you crazy tho...I talk a lot of shit and nonsense on the forums (it's the internet..come on now), and TRULY hope people aren't taking this too seriously
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I don't, but I do think a big part of why the forum has gone downhill is because the men vs women thing continues to get carried on too far when people could stop and say 'look, all bullshit aside, so and so has a point..... and now back to my regularly scheduled asshatery' lol To be honest, I think that's why most of us get so frustrated, and I know that's why quite a few people I've spoken to have left...or at least it was a chunk of their gripe with this place.
 
Listened to an NPR interview with...

BETH BAILEY, a Professor of History at Temple University who studies gender and military institutions,
COLLEEN FARRELL, a U.S. Marine Corp Captain who is a plaintiffs in the ACLU lawsuit challenging the DOD's combat ban,
and ELAINE DONNELLY, President of the Center for Military Readiness.

Beth said Panetta defied Congress by completely bypassing them, he CAN NOT make this policy, that their is an absolute quota agenda and those who ensure the quota is met receive promotions, that the official policy is "fair" standards, not "equal" and that eventually when women are dismally failing to pass the test, the standard WILL LOWER - it won't be announced, they will just make the test easier FOR ALL, until women can pass it.

*One National Guard soldier called in and he said that the training test for army is 42 push-ups in 2 mins for the men.....13 for the women. He said carrying alone almost 100 pds of equipment on missions is back breaking, even for him and he's a big guy.
But the 13 to 42..wow HUGE disparity, I must say.

The debate was really good. If anyone wants to listen to it, here is the link -

http://whyy.org/cms/radiotimes/2013/01/28/women-on-the-front-lines-ending-the-combat-ban/
 
TheHuntress said:
I do. I love history, it's my thing on the side, but I am super passionate about workplace psychology, training, employee motivation, and cultural consonance. I kind of fell into this stuff when I started my MS in training and performance improvement and never looked back. Ten years ago, had you told me I'd be doing this, I'd have looked at you like you had 3000 heads. lol

And yes, limits and ceiling can be broken, or at least cracked. But I can also tell you that they still exist. I sat in my colloquium last summer where the professor in charge of trying to help us insulted me in front of the group and make a comment about silly women coming from an education background who think they can 'hack it' in the field of psychology, implying it is for men only. I reported him to the staff, as did a few other ladies at my table who were equally as appalled as I was.

And this was 2012, right? You'd think.



I don't, but I do think a big part of why the forum has gone downhill is because the [Angry Black] men vs women thing continues to get carried on too far when people could stop and say 'look, all bullshit aside, so and so has a point..... and now back to my regularly scheduled asshatery' lol To be honest, I think that's why most of us get so frustrated, and I know that's why quite a few people I've spoken to have left...or at least it was a chunk of their gripe with this place.
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fixed

honestly tho..without the men vs women superfights, what would this place be?

maybe there should be a section of the forums for people to shit talk
 
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