Is being possessive in a black mans 'nature'?

[Mikey]

So it's within your culture to dismiss other peoples' opinions and experiences because you see no "intellectual merit" to their opinions? Is that what you're telling me??

No, it's not. It's just when certain posts are made which are critical or an insult. Basically, I instinctively hit back with twice the force. Animals do the same thing if they're attacked.

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

No, it's not. It's just when certain posts are made which are critical or an insult. Basically, I instinctively hit back with twice the force. Animals do the same thing if they're attacked.

So when multiple people are pointing out how suspect something in a post comes across to them based on their own experience, you see that as them insulting what you see as something critical??

 

[Mikey]

So when multiple people are pointing out how suspect something in a post comes across to them based on their own experience, you see that as them insulting what you see as something critical??

Nah, I just say in my head "to hell with them." And it wasn't based on posts like those either that you just talked about. They were other kinds of posts.

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

Nah, I just say in my head "to hell with them". And it wasn't based on posts like those either that you just talked about. They were other kinds of posts.

My advice. Since you have created a blog site for yourself, stick to posting your critical and intellectual opinions and observations there. You have a habit of talking yourself and your thoughts into nonsensical circles on this site that get you placed in a not flattering light. Do not take that as an insult. Strictly an observation. No need to respond to this post as I'm done responding to you. Thank You.

 

[Mikey]

My advice. Since you have created a blog site for yourself, stick to posting your critical and intellectual opinions and observations there. You have a habit of talking yourself and your thoughts into nonsensical circles on this site that get you placed in a not flattering light. Do not take that as an insult. Strictly an observation. No need to respond to this post as I'm done responding to you. Thank You.

Well, I'll respond anyway.

If my posts were non-sensical circles, my grades in essays that I'd write would reflect that. I've received good grades in them, so my professors would disagree with you. And you can't force me off here anyway.

I'm also done responding to you. Thank you.

 

[Salmon23]

Pssst. It would probably help your case in not looking so suspect if this were not the only thread that you seem to have taken any interest in. That would be the intellectually mature thing for you to do if you have any legitimate interest in actually debating issues and topics. Food for thought.

You're making huge assumptions here.

Not that I should have to defend myself, but personally, I'm super busy with work at the moment, and I don't have time to devote hours to a forum, which doesn't respect my opinion without attack.

To be completely frank, I haven't found many post on the forum that peak my intellectual curiosity thus far. Though the picture thread was fun, but I wouldn't add my photo on a public site.

Many of the post I read were sexual in nature, which is ok, but I didn't join this site for a soft porn venue. It's just not my thing. Maybe there are many post which are not sexual in nature, but most of the ones I have opened are sexual or alternatively they are not interesting to me. In time, I probably will find posts which interest me, and I will respond in due time.

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

You're making huge assumptions here.

I don't have time to devote hours to a forum, which doesn't respect my opinion without attack.

That goes both way. Especially if as you say you haven't found threads to peak your interest and taken/found time to get a feel for the people who post on a forum. And it's kind of hard for anyone to respect someone's opinion from their very first post out of the gate. Kind of presumptuous don't you think, that people who don't know you or anything about you will just automatically respect an opinion that you just throw out there isn't it?

 

[Alexis89]

You're making huge assumptions here.

Not that I should have to defend myself, but personally, I'm super busy with work at the moment, and I don't have time to devote hours to a forum, which doesn't respect my opinion without attack.

To be completely frank, I haven't found many post on the forum that peak my intellectual curiosity thus far. Though the picture thread was fun, but I wouldn't add my photo on a public site.

Many of the post I read were sexual in nature, which is ok, but I didn't join this site for a soft porn venue. It's just not my thing. Maybe there are many post which are not sexual in nature, but most of the ones I have opened are sexual or alternatively they are not interesting to me. In time, I probably will find posts which interest me, and I will respond in due time.

Yup.

Plus most of the interesting threads are killed by senior members having flirty/dumb side conversations.

I don't have any intention of getting to know people on here personally. Forums are for discussing topics... people on here act like this site is their end all be all. Don't worry about these folks... some of them are actually pretty chill and enlightening.

 

[Mikey]

Some advice for you, Paniro. How I post depends on the thread. Obviously in this one and in others like it, I'd make some controversial posts because that's the way the thread is. It's not like my the majority of my posts throughout this whole site are like this.

Yup.

Plus most of the interesting threads are killed by senior members having flirty/dumb side conversations.

I don't have any intention of getting to know people on here personally. Forums are for discussing topics... people on here act like this site is their end all be all. Don't worry about these folks... some of them are actually pretty chill and enlightening.

Ok, that sounds right. (In bold)

Also, I would like to let you and others know that I'm not "against" the purpose of this site or anything of that sort. I am trying to explain the fundamental reasons of why challenges (in particular, ones that we do not need to confront) exist with interracial relationships in America that myself and everyone else here would like to get into. I got criticized wrongly on here several times because the criticizers of my posts are ignorant to the harsh realities that we all have to face together. They just say that stuff happens to them, but they don't know the underlying reasons of why and I just explained it here.

I also had a brief discussion with Naija4real about what we are dealing with here in this thread. Please take a look.

http://whitewomenblackmen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18746

 

[Arwen]

I just noticed this thread is drama... I mean, really?

This Board is always the same.

 

[JordanC]

I just noticed this thread is drama... I mean, really?

This Board is always the same.

Yeah don't bump it up.......let it die.

 

[SENSI1]

As a black man the last thing any of us should want is to OWN someone. Now feeling like a woman is "yours" to a certain degree if you're in a committed relationship is one thing. But feeling like you own someone shouldn't really enter your mind male or female. We don't OWN our kids do we? No, we're just responsible for them and what they do. So if we don't own kids then there is no reason to believe a man or woman no matter what ethnicity/color they are can truly believe they own someone. And no it is not a black thing either. What you're talking about stretches across all lines. Even some Serfs and some so called "untouchables" to some degree feel that they own their woman even though they themselves are owned or shunned by the society they live in. Also most everyone has some sort of insecurity within themselves and some of us manifest them in this way as a masked feeling of togetherness. And in a man's case: man=superior and owner, woman=subordinate and owned. When in fact the person is really and truly afraid of not having said person with them to quote unquote OWN.

 

[worriedleigh]

SENSI1

We don't OWN our kids do we? No, we're just responsible for them and what they do.

Wait one bro. If you make something, animate or otherwise, you do own it/them. Even if you adopt, you own it/them. Otherwise I would not want you being my parent.

 

[mama]

We don't OWN our kids do we? No, we're just responsible for them and what they do.

Wait one bro. If you make something, animate or otherwise, you do own it/them. Even if you adopt, you own it/them. Otherwise I would not want you being my parent.

Seriously?

 

[Bliss]

As a black man the last thing any of us should want is to OWN someone. Now feeling like a woman is "yours" to a certain degree if you're in a committed relationship is one thing. But feeling like you own someone shouldn't really enter your mind male or female. We don't OWN our kids do we? No, we're just responsible for them and what they do. So if we don't own kids then there is no reason to believe a man or woman no matter what ethnicity/color they are can truly believe they own someone. And no it is not a black thing either. What you're talking about stretches across all lines. Even some Serfs and some so called "untouchables" to some degree feel that they own their woman even though they themselves are owned or shunned by the society they live in. Also most everyone has some sort of insecurity within themselves and some of us manifest them in this way as a masked feeling of togetherness. And in a man's case: man=superior and owner, woman=subordinate and owned. When in fact the person is really and truly afraid of not having said person with them to quote unquote OWN.

This was/is BRILLIANT! Great insight. :smt023

BTW, @ your "owning kids" comment...my mother said something like that to me...that when a child is born, it immediately belongs to the world (universe), not you (parents). The child owns themselves - you are gifted the privilege to love them, care for them, but you don't truly own the child.

 

[Tamstrong]

We don't OWN our kids do we? No, we're just responsible for them and what they do.

Wait one bro. If you make something, animate or otherwise, you do own it/them. Even if you adopt, you own it/them. Otherwise I would not want you being my parent.

Your "owner" drank a lot of booze when she was pregnant with you didn't she?

 

[Black DeNiro]

Your "owner" drank a lot of booze when she was pregnant with you didn't she?

 

[smurfette]

As a black man the last thing any of us should want is to OWN someone. Now feeling like a woman is "yours" to a certain degree if you're in a committed relationship is one thing. But feeling like you own someone shouldn't really enter your mind male or female. We don't OWN our kids do we? No, we're just responsible for them and what they do. So if we don't own kids then there is no reason to believe a man or woman no matter what ethnicity/color they are can truly believe they own someone. And no it is not a black thing either. What you're talking about stretches across all lines. Even some Serfs and some so called "untouchables" to some degree feel that they own their woman even though they themselves are owned or shunned by the society they live in. Also most everyone has some sort of insecurity within themselves and some of us manifest them in this way as a masked feeling of togetherness. And in a man's case: man=superior and owner, woman=subordinate and owned. When in fact the person is really and truly afraid of not having said person with them to quote unquote OWN.

That thought of course reminds me immediately of Khalil Gibran's book the Prophet:
on children

And a woman who held a babe against her bosom said, "Speak to us of Children." And he said:
Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you, yet they belong not to you.
You may give them your love but not your thoughts.
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.
You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, and He bends you with His might that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as he loves the arrow that flies, so He loves also the bow that is stable.


I agree one doesn't or shouldn't OWN children. Yet, I'm not a mom and maybe mothers have a deeper insight into this issue.

 

[Mikey]

Yeah don't bump it up.......let it die.

I anticipated that someone would eventually have a reason to bump this thread.

And about the SistahWise site, I'm on the verge of writing a letter or e-mail and figuring out who to address it to about the negative portrayal of black women in movies/uplifting of women of all other ethnic groups.

Something has got to be done, and it doesn't make me anti-WW/BM for recommending it.

 

[ILoveYouWhiteWomen]

Good Point

I anticipated that someone would eventually have a reason to bump this thread.

And about the SistahWise site, I'm on the verge of writing a letter or e-mail and figuring out who to address it to about the negative portrayal of black women in movies/uplifting of women of all other ethnic groups.

Something has got to be done, and it doesn't make me anti-WW/BM for recommending it.

Supporting others does not make you Anti-anything

But it does make you Pro-something instead!:smt023