Romney gave millions to charity. Biden gave $369

How stupid are you? Food stamps have been on a continuous rise with each and every president. It hasn't started when Obama took office. It's been like this for a long time.

Secondly, you can thank the previous administration for the economic problems and job losses due to the tax cuts that you and your ilk support so badly.

Wait...wait...what sort of illogical talking points are you getting your ideas from again?

Wasn't a fan of Bush and didn't vote for him either but you cant lie that Obama is putting motherfuckers on foodstamps at a record rate. Its shameful.
 
Its consistent with Thomas Frank's definition of American conservatism: the "doctrine of the oppressed majority ... always the underdog, always in rebellion against a haughty establishment, always rising up from below."

I would add: always teeming with con-artists.

No doubt. And funny that Iggy only wanted to focus on what he sees as people "bitching" and "whining" about conservatives but seemingly just ignored everything else I said:

Most of us just want to maintain the life and shit we work hard to get and not be fucked up the ass by greedy self serving bastards.


Funny how that mindset works, huh?
 
Romney's budget proposal would raise taxes 60% on those making $50,000 or less a year.

Bush presided over the weakest economic expansion in 50 years. Romney thinks adding even more tax cuts, on top of making the Bush tax rates permanent, would actually spur job growth. Which is absolutely mad.

Then there's the god awful Ryan budget ...
Well, then if Romney wins, then we as a country are finished. America would have fallen by then, and not just economically.

It may just be best to pack your bags and leave. My grandmother already vowed to return to her homeland (Caribbean islands) if Romney won.
 
How stupid are you?

Nice personal attack. I get restricted if I talk shit but BBW is allowed to and the mods dont do anything. Sounds completely fair.:roll:

If you libs cant see the danger in more & more of our citizens becoming dependent on the gov, then there is zero hope for you.
 
It's not a personal attack. I'm merely questioning your post altogether, let alone your intelligence. Unlike you, who basically called me a "freak" out of maliciousness and childish diatribe. You're comparing apples to oranges here and I can tell you that you deserved getting restricted after all that. I thought you didn't take the forums seriously. If anything, you wouldn't care at all if you were placed under restriction. I guess you're still a bit sour after your deserved restriction.

But back on topic, there's no danger of government assistance or some leverage of dependency. That's a pathetic scare tactic. Do you honestly think that everyone on here actually lives off of the government? No. Other nations have much more efficient models (many which follows a hybrid capitalist-socialist structure) compared to the US, who tries incredibly hard to believe strict capitalism will save this country. That's a false statement in of itself.

And on another note, rational conservatives do see a need for some level of government assistance, and yes..they label themselves as "small government" conservatives. Want to see your train of thought in the works, look at Colorado Springs or even Trenton to see how bloated the idea of "smaller government" truly is.

Nice personal attack. I get restricted if I talk shit but BBW is allowed to and the mods dont do anything. Sounds completely fair.:roll:

If you libs cant see the danger in more & more of our citizens becoming dependent on the gov, then there is zero hope for you.
 
If you libs cant see the danger in more & more of our citizens becoming dependent on the gov, then there is zero hope for you.



Like you are really concerned for your fellow citizens. Negro please. You and other liked minded individuals are only concerned with "self". Take that cornball fake concern somewhere else.
 
Welfare-queen states
By Harold Meyerson, Published: May 17

Republicans’ concern over the growth of government is moral as well as fiscal. To quote the House Republican “road map” that accompanied the release of Rep. Paul Ryan’s budget, “Americans were known and admired everywhere for their hopeful determination to assume responsibility for the quality of their own lives; to rely on their own work and initiative. .?.?. But over time, Americans have been lured into viewing government .?.?. as their main source of support; they have been drawn toward depending on the public sector for growing shares of their material and personal well-being. The trend drains individual initiative and personal responsibility.”

To remedy this, House Republicans passed a budget that chiefly increases the opportunities for initiative and responsibility available to seniors by reducing their dependence on Medicare and Medicaid (which devotes two-thirds of its funding to nursing-home care). By converting Medicare from a guarantee of payment for medical care to a voucher to purchase insurance, the Congressional Budget Office calculated, the share of medical bills that seniors would have to pay themselves would rise from 25 percent to 68 percent.

Republicans are right to aim big if they mean to reduce the deficit through cuts alone. By most measures, seniors are the major spongers on taxpayers, chiefly through their insistence on not working productively once they hit 65, 78, 92 or whatever. But for the sake of argument, suppose we don’t want to put that burden on our mothers, fathers, grandparents and ourselves. Where else can we identify a comparably large group of drainers of the public till?

Happily, the Tax Foundation — a conservative Washington-based think tank — has, however unintentionally, provided the answer. In 2007, the foundation published a survey of 2005 federal spending in each state and compared that with each state’s contribution in federal taxes. In other words, the foundation identified the states that sponge off the federal government and those that subsidize it. The welfare-queen states and the responsible, producing states, as it were.

The list, alas, hasn’t been updated — in part, no doubt, because conservatives didn’t like what it revealed: that those states that got more back from our government than they paid in were overwhelmingly Republican. The 10 biggest net recipients of taxpayers’ largess were, in order, New Mexico, Mississippi, Alaska, Louisiana, West Virginia, North Dakota, Alabama, South Dakota, Kentucky and Virginia. The 10 states that paid in the most and got back the least were New Jersey, Nevada, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Illinois, Delaware, California, New York and Colorado.

Now, that list has surely changed since the middle of the last decade — Virginia has probably gotten richer and paid in more; Nevada has surely gotten poorer and paid in less. But today’s ranking are probably much the same, unless farming and manufacturing suddenly pay more than finance and high-tech. Even allowing for cyclical variations and political transformations, it’s patently clear that the states that drain the government also constitute the Republicans’ electoral base, while those that produce the wealth constitute the Democrats’. Far from strengthening our moral character, the red states plunge us into the slough of dependency.

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If you libs cant see the danger in more & more of our citizens becoming dependent on the gov, then there is zero hope for you.

I agree that the system (tax payers) can't continue to support it, that it will eventually buckle (much like SS will for the future generation). And yes, the dependency does create docility (won't bit the hand that feeds them), but at this juncture, that horse has already left the barn. Only thing to change it is job creation.
 
It's not a personal attack.

Actually YES it was. But no worries, you got it made with the mods so keep posting tranny shit playa.

And while I do think too many Americans are dependent on welfare/foodstamps, it doesnt mean I think the gov should stay out of our lives for good. Of course the gov has many good things to offer. All I'm saying is that too many motherfuckers in this country are dependent on our gov.

Thats all
 
Actually YES it was. But no worries, you got it made with the mods so keep posting tranny shit playa.

And while I do think too many Americans are dependent on welfare/foodstamps, it doesnt mean I think the gov should stay out of our lives for good. Of course the gov has many good things to offer. All I'm saying is that too many motherfuckers in this country are dependent on our gov.

Thats all

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What's this? Someone here has identified themselves as having conservative leanings and is not being attacked by the narrow minded progressive leaning black savages on this forum??? How could this be??? Could it be because people here don't care what each others ideologies are as long as you express yourself and your opinions in a respectful, rational and adult manner like this individual has done??? Food for thought for some folks here who like using the "people here are closed mined" card.

Oh here..I'm one of those narrow minded progressive leaning (lover) of these black savages on there forum. Let me handle this.

"dear sir with your shitty ideas,
As a majority member of this board..I would like to speak for the rest of my constituents and say your political leanings clearly suck ass. Get a life

Many thanks,
Me"
 
Oh here..I'm one of those narrow minded progressive leaning (lover) of these black savages on there forum. Let me handle this.

"dear sir with your shitty ideas,
As a majority member of this board..I would like to speak for the rest of my constituents and say your political leanings clearly suck ass. Get a life

Many thanks,
Me"


Careful. That could be seen as a personal attack by certain individuals. You're not allowed to say mean things about them but damned if they can't say whatever about you because they're of the superior intellectual, moral, ideological and financial high ground (or one day will be). And if you call them on it you're just too sensitive or hormonal with your inferior self......
 
Again, comparing my comment regarding your intellectual dishonesty on the food stamp matter (conservative talking point) is not the same as you pelting high schoolish, juvenile quips about someone. One isn't a personal attack, while the other is. So Iggy, never compare apples to oranges.

I'm glad that you've addressed the fact that the government does play a crucial in our lives, as Americans. But I also see that you're completely ignorant of the matter as well. Again, it's not an attack on you. But an observation based on your statements. Yes, there are those who take advantage of the government for their personal well-being, but there are those who definitely need it, especially when it comes to greater living expenses.

Food stamps is more of a subsidy and so is welfare. But what's the percentage of those who uses it out of necessity and then get out of it as oppose to those who stay on it for good? The ratio of the former is much higher and why? They see it as merely assistance.

Also, smaller government so far hasn't really worked as well. If Trenton and Colorado Spring are any indicators of a model that has yet showed results, what makes you think that the nation can do without any form of government programs? The entire debate on big government vs. small government is ridiculous. Instead, why not take the "reasonable government" approach instead of using ridiculous ideological rhetoric?

Actually YES it was. But no worries, you got it made with the mods so keep posting tranny shit playa.

And while I do think too many Americans are dependent on welfare/foodstamps, it doesnt mean I think the gov should stay out of our lives for good. Of course the gov has many good things to offer. All I'm saying is that too many motherfuckers in this country are dependent on our gov.

Thats all
 
Careful. That could be seen as a personal attack by certain individuals. You're not allowed to say mean things about them but damned if they can't say whatever about you because they're of the superior intellectual, moral, ideological and financial high ground (or one day will be). And if you call them on it you're just too sensitive or hormonal with your inferior self......

You forgot one Ra-Ra...they also like to say you have low self-esteem...I guess it's because we're all just haters of their highly exalted status. :rolleyes:
 
You forgot one Ra-Ra...they also like to say you have low self-esteem...I guess it's because we're all just haters of their highly exalted status. :rolleyes:


They aren't doing me any favors by coming here and slumming with my ignorant and incompetent black ass. How about you? Are they doing you any favors and motivating you to want to be as superior and perfect as they think they are?
 
They aren't doing me any favors by coming here and slumming with my ignorant and incompetent black ass. How about you? Are they doing you any favors and motivating you to want to be as superior and perfect as they think they are?

I'd have to say the answer is no...they and their funky, pompous attitudes don't impress me.

I much prefer the influence of my fellow lowly, humble, & REAL folks who actually bring something positive and meaningful to the table; who haven't been sheltered from real world experiences and have a solid understanding of life and people and respect for both.
 
Careful. That could be seen as a personal attack by certain individuals. You're not allowed to say mean things about them but damned if they can't say whatever about you because they're of the superior intellectual, moral, ideological and financial high ground (or one day will be). And if you call them on it you're just too sensitive or hormonal with your inferior self......

Um...it was a joke. Like as in har har. I mean nothing for real by it. I was just highlighting the stupidity of targeting someone for their beliefs. Isn't it as stupid as targeting someone for their color?

Even if you don't think like me that doesn't mean I think you're less than a person. I was raised knee deep in that shit.

It's fucking pointless to see things that way.
 
Um...it was a joke. Like as in har har. I mean nothing for real by it. I was just highlighting the stupidity of targeting someone for their beliefs. Isn't it as stupid as targeting someone for their color?

Even if you don't think like me that doesn't mean I think you're less than a person. I was raised knee deep in that shit.

It's fucking pointless to see things that way.



Most of us here get that it's a joke, but certain people don't/wouldn't see it that way. Just as you pointed out it's stupid to target people for their beliefs, they may see it as their "right to expression and free speech" against a differing view point. And if you point out their ignorance to them you are in fact oppressing them and denying them their right to free speech here. Never mind that they probably have a Facebook account, a Twitter account, one or more personal blog spaces or sites that they probably post their opinions or viewpoints on varying topics and let's not forget the the half a dozen or more various different forums and websites that they possibly frequent and are members of besides this one that they express their opinions and viewpoints on also. But I guess that's how it is when you're an important person in your own mind ........ :rolleyes:
 
Actually YES it was. But no worries, you got it made with the mods so keep posting tranny shit playa.

And while I do think too many Americans are dependent on welfare/foodstamps, it doesnt mean I think the gov should stay out of our lives for good. Of course the gov has many good things to offer. All I'm saying is that too many motherfuckers in this country are dependent on our gov.

Thats all

Um, I think that was me, not BBW.:cool:

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The rich are spending the least on tsx in the history of this country's history. How low fo ypu people want it!

They spend the least because the majority of their income comes from capital gains taxes. They take a risk and invest their money into companies and if they earn a profit, they reap the rewards. Everyone would have that tax rate if they invested their money. I love how people want jobs, want more money, etc...but love to crucify the rich who created or invested in the companies they work for.
 
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