Brian White Marries Non-Black Woman; Goes Off On Haters Via Twitter

[whikle]

Have to disagree on this. Men are often criticized just as much on their weight, but often it's on the other side of the spectrum (too thin). As others has mention, society constantly tries to push images on what we are suppose
to look like. For ladies, it's the thinner side of the spectrum, for the guys, it's the bigger. Not only that, but being large was considered desirable by women
of the past due to the belief that being large was consider to be wealthy. (Meaning, poor people couldn't get fat so being fat is an act of financial
stability.) If you are thin, however, you are screwed. Often it is expressed that many lady wants a guy who can protect them. Thus, a guy who is short, or thin, would lack the physical demeanor to possibly provide that avenue.
Which is why many women don't like short guys. And I can speak from first hand experience that many women do not like thin guys, and I can personally attest to the media playing a role on what a man is suppose to be. I've been going to the gym close to 5 times a week. I curl freakin 90 pounds (3 sets of 8) and bench press with dumbells 65 on each arm, yet I'm still 6"2 and a buck sixty. By my mathematical calculations, I'm going to need to curl over 200 pounds just to weight over 200 pounds. I've been turned down many times by women who state they want a guy with more meat on their bones.

Just yesterday, I was approached by my friends grandmother and she states I'm too thin and ask if I eat enough. I freakin eat an entire philly steak subway sandwich (1000 calories and 80 grams of protein) in one sitting. Can you imagine, going to the gym closeo to 5 times a week, you are putting all your hard work and determination trying to get as big as you possibly can just to be seen as a viable dating partner, and people still see no result from you?
I literally lift 40 pounds more curling than I started 3 months ago and not a single person made a remark about me getting bigger, instead, I get the same old thin jokes from both guys and girls alike.

I'm setting aside 500 dollars to buy protein powder, creatine powder, anabolic
powder, the works. So to say that a guy doesn't have to deal with his weight is a very ignorant remark, because I have to deal with that crap on a daily basis, at least until I get to a solid build.

I don't disagree with you, Babybro. You'll notice I said "much easier" instead of "easy" and "very rarely" instead of never. You can't deny that women cop it FAR MORE than men. Not saying it doesn't exist for men too.

What you experience is on the other end of the spectrum, and by no means any less significant or important an issue.

 

[whikle]

There exists, somewhere, an ugly woman...just don't call her one....

I know this is a bit of a backhanded comment at people like me who jump to those people's defense, but... seriously. Don't. What's the point? There's plenty of people in this world that I think are heinously ugly for a variety of reasons. What advantage is it to me to be sprouting off about it and making that person feel bad? None.

 

[whikle]

First off in the states there are few overweight girls in the gym but I imagine that's because women are more image conscious. I imagine they go to Jenny Craig and go for walks but i rarely see big girls on the treadmill or the elliptical. Laziness in America is problem that has no gender but I think women often play victim and I think that's because men aren't allowed to complain. I think if we were we would but its completely unacceptable as a man to complain about anything, it comes of as straight female. So we're either forced to change the problem ie the gym or shut the hell up and stay fat. But you never hear men complaining there isn't enough fat men being celebrated in media because we know its not sexy period. I'm not saying there isn't value in all people but if we're going to sit here and pretend that being extremely overweight is sexy then we're just going to be lying to each other. Are there pretty fat girls out there? Probably but I'm sure there are decent looking people with down syndrome but we're not trying to celebrate their beauty are we?

Like I said, it makes no difference how much I weigh or anyone else who feels passionately about this. I wish we could separate the two so you could understand that. For example. FlyingGeek gets in on these discussions about weight passionately too and she's got the fit, slender physique that is desired by the media. It's not about fat people complaining that there aren't enough fat people in the media. It's about changing the perception of the ultimate beauty standards so that people (men and women alike) everywhere aren't forming extremely unhealthy self esteem issues and eating disorders etc. If the media were to present these people positively, people who represent a wide spectrum of body types, without making weight a negative thing, those problems would cease to exist. (And, for example, people like Babybro wouldn't have the need to form these insecurities about his own weight and the pressure from society to be something that's not natural for him)

 

[xoxo]

It's sacrosanct to say that all women are beautiful.

There's plenty of people in this world that I think are heinously ugly for a variety of reasons.

but most of us have scales and standards like you do.

It's about changing the perception of the ultimate beauty standards so that people (men and women alike) everywhere aren't forming extremely unhealthy self esteem issues and eating disorders etc.

What's the standard then for beauty if everyone is considered beautiful? That wouldn't be a standard at all?

 

[The Dark King]

It's sacrosanct to say that all women are beautiful.



but most of us have scales and standards like you do.




What's the standard then for beauty if everyone is considered beautiful? That wouldn't be a standard at all?

Its pointless to argue this shit with most women. Its like the money issue with men.

 

[Espy]

Its pointless to argue this shit with most women. Its like the money issue with men.

Please remind me, what is the money issue for men babe?

As for the weight/beauty topic. Personally I think everyone has different standards so I guess I think everyone is already covered because everyone will appeal to someone somewhere. Frankly why would you waste time worrying about or discussing the people who don't find you appealing, let them go get with whomever they please and you do the same.

I know I'm obtuse, but I seriously don't get the whole thing about the media driving what people consider beautiful. I do understand that they flood the world with what they apparently think people want to see, but that doesn't impact my self-esteem, or self-image in the least, regardless of what type they are pushing. Honestly when I see the androgynous, stick thin models that are apparently in vogue at the moment, I'm just really thankful I don't look like that. I think if you have a strong sense of self, and you are content with yourself, you don't give a damn what the media portrays. If your primary motivation is to be comfortable and happy with yourself, then what anyone else thinks doesn't matter in the least. Self-esteem should not be something that the media or anyone else can take away from you. Too many people don't have a strong sense of self, and don't believe in themselves, that's why they have low self-esteem. Basically I believe that the low self-esteem came first, and therefore the media and other people's opinions of them have the ability to have more of a negative impact. If you've got healthy self-esteem, even if someone tells you that you suck every day, you know better than to buy that crap. I think the problem you run into is that too many parents don't raise secure children in the first place, and it's difficult to overcome that later in life. If you raise them to believe in themselves, nothing and no one can take that from them.

 

[z]

Yeah, people would just be people and we'd celebrate and enjoy our differences!

Race is a business. Racist and race baitors would not allow this to happen. The first thing that we see in a person is COLOR at least in Amerikka.

 

[whikle]

I so swore I was done arguing weight issues on this board. How did I get sucked into it again?

Bottom line, someone who has a body shape bigger/different to the "norm" being portrayed in the media positively is a GOOD THING. But people continue to bash them for no reason. Or for false reasons. Like I've said before, like other people have said, if you can't stop hating on other people for superficial reasons it's only a reflection on your own self-worth. Let it go. Let people be who they are. Celebrate people's successes.

Gabby was in a successful movie and portrayed her role convincingly. Why can't we just celebrate that and leave it. And if you don't think she did, well.. that's your prerogative, but making derogatory comments about her weight is uncalled for.

And I'm done. Again.

 

[The Dark King]

Please remind me, what is the money issue for men babe?

As for the weight/beauty topic. Personally I think everyone has different standards so I guess I think everyone is already covered because everyone will appeal to someone somewhere. Frankly why would you waste time worrying about or discussing the people who don't find you appealing, let them go get with whomever they please and you do the same.

I know I'm obtuse, but I seriously don't get the whole thing about the media driving what people consider beautiful. I do understand that they flood the world with what they apparently think people want to see, but that doesn't impact my self-esteem, or self-image in the least, regardless of what type they are pushing. Honestly when I see the androgynous, stick thin models that are apparently in vogue at the moment, I'm just really thankful I don't look like that. I think if you have a strong sense of self, and you are content with yourself, you don't give a damn what the media portrays. If your primary motivation is to be comfortable and happy with yourself, then what anyone else thinks doesn't matter in the least. Self-esteem should not be something that the media or anyone else can take away from you. Too many people don't have a strong sense of self, and don't believe in themselves, that's why they have low self-esteem. Basically I believe that the low self-esteem came first, and therefore the media and other people's opinions of them have the ability to have more of a negative impact. If you've got healthy self-esteem, even if someone tells you that you suck every day, you know better than to buy that crap. I think the problem you run into is that too many parents don't raise secure children in the first place, and it's difficult to overcome that later in life. If you raise them to believe in themselves, nothing and no one can take that from them.

Men are judged by their status and how much money they have just as harshly as women are about their weight. I just think weight is far easier to control then weight accumulation.

 

[Espy]

Men are judged by their status and how much money they have just as harshly as women are about their weight. I just think weight is far easier to control then weight wealth accumulation.

Fixed. Thank you for the explanation, I was lost...again LOL! I suspect for some people it's actually easier to lose weight than it is to increase their income substantially, so I don't think we're comparing like to like here. I also don't subscribe to that particular mentality. I don't judge anyone by what they look like or what they have, I look at who they are, because honestly that's really all that actually matters. People can gain or lose weight, and they can make or lose money, but it doesn't change who they are. They may think it does, and yes it may change their level of happiness with themselves or their lives, but again that doesn't change who they actually are.

 

[The Dark King]

Fixed. Thank you for the explanation, I was lost...again LOL! I suspect for some people it's actually easier to lose weight than it is to increase their income substantially, so I don't think we're comparing like to like here. I also don't subscribe to that particular mentality. I don't judge anyone by what they look like or what they have, I look at who they are, because honestly that's really all that actually matters. People can gain or lose weight, and they can make or lose money, but it doesn't change who they are. They may think it does, and yes it may change their level of happiness with themselves or their lives, but again that doesn't change who they actually are.

That's really sweet that you think that way but we live in a sight only culture. Seeing is believing and it only matters if its material.

 

[Espy]

That's really sweet that you think that way but we live in a sight only culture. Seeing is believing and it only matters if its material.

To you perhaps, but not to me. I know that stuff is just stuff, and how much or how little stuff I have really makes no difference babe. If I'm not happy with me, a sports car or a mansion in a specific zip code isn't going to change that. If more people invested time and energy into becoming who they wanted to be, instead of trying to buy their way to contentment, we'd have a lot more happy people in the world.

 

[JordanC]

To you perhaps, but not to me. I know that stuff is just stuff, and how much or how little stuff I have really makes no difference babe. If I'm not happy with me, a sports car or a mansion in a specific zip code isn't going to change that. If more people invested time and energy into becoming who they wanted to be, instead of trying to buy their way to contentment, we'd have a lot more happy people in the world.

Exactly. Sometimes people are a little slower to learn it but it comes eventually.

 

[Tony Soprano]

To you perhaps, but not to me. I know that stuff is just stuff, and how much or how little stuff I have really makes no difference babe. If I'm not happy with me, a sports car or a mansion in a specific zip code isn't going to change that. If more people invested time and energy into becoming who they wanted to be, instead of trying to buy their way to contentment, we'd have a lot more happy people in the world.

:smt038:smt023

 

[goodlove]

To you perhaps, but not to me. I know that stuff is just stuff, and how much or how little stuff I have really makes no difference babe. If I'm not happy with me, a sports car or a mansion in a specific zip code isn't going to change that. If more people invested time and energy into becoming who they wanted to be, instead of trying to buy their way to contentment, we'd have a lot more happy people in the world.

that goes with their looks. if a person is happy with themselves then wieght overall shouldnt be an issue. It is important for health reasons but just to fit in and be accepted in a terrible reason. look at the models...they are seriously unhealthy and there has been movements to change the look for models because their underweight and it is killing them.

 

[Espy]

that goes with their looks. if a person is happy with themselves then wieght overall shouldnt be an issue. It is important for health reasons but just to fit in and be accepted in a terrible reason. look at the models...they are seriously unhealthy and there has been movements to change the look for models because their underweight and it is killing them.

Agreed, if you weigh 400 pounds and are happy with yourself, then I'm happy for you and I'm sure not gonna give you crap for it. It's your body, you're the one who has to deal with any unhealthy ramifications of being overweight, so really it's no one's business to tell you what they think you should weigh. I find it irritating though when someone isn't happy with something about themselves and just refuses to do anything to remedy that, preferring instead to whine and bitch about. My personal philosophy is make some attempt to change what you don't like, or just be quiet. If you try and fail to achieve your goal, at least you tried.

 

[The Dark King]

To you perhaps, but not to me. I know that stuff is just stuff, and how much or how little stuff I have really makes no difference babe. If I'm not happy with me, a sports car or a mansion in a specific zip code isn't going to change that. If more people invested time and energy into becoming who they wanted to be, instead of trying to buy their way to contentment, we'd have a lot more happy people in the world.

I disagree. People treat people with money a lot better than those who don't have it and that's going to shape how one sees the world.

 

[KingAesop]

so now if he shouldn't show up on his job and uses the excuse that he is hiking in the mountains, we will know where he is!

Lol

 

[Espy]

I disagree. People treat people with money a lot better than those who don't have it and that's going to shape how one sees the world.

Agree to disagree on this babe. I know there are people like that, but I just don't see that with the people I know personally.

 

[KingAesop]

Agreed, if you weigh 400 pounds and are happy with yourself, then I'm happy for you and I'm sure not gonna give you crap for it. It's your body, you're the one who has to deal with any unhealthy ramifications of being overweight, so really it's no one's business to tell you what they think you should weigh. I find it irritating though when someone isn't happy with something about themselves and just refuses to do anything to remedy that, preferring instead to whine and bitch about. My personal philosophy is make some attempt to change what you don't like, or just be quiet. If you try and fail to achieve your goal, at least you tried.

A good try is worth a lot of respect. Even if the try doesn't work, it shows what your intentions are. I hate when people become complacent about things but then have the gall to complain about it. Some people have difficulties achieving certain things in life due to difficulties that may be beyond their control, but if these difficulties are present just be positive about them if you are not able to change them. Love yourself is the mantra. If you are broke and can't do anything about it then thank God for your life and don't complain to me about being broke. Complaining takes away precious time for you to strategize about how you can get money. The same concept applies to personal self esteem and weight issues. If you have a problem with losing weigh be positive about living because somebody didn't wake up this morning. Strategize on the little things that you can do to stay as healthy as possible.