That white girl didn't oppress your people

pettyofficerj said:
I've been trying to run with this in other threads, but some people seem to think that our enemies can only be white.

seriously, we were fighting, killing, and enslaving ourselves before the white man came. Shit, some of the stuff we still do today. Who we gunna blame now? Billy Dee Williams and Colt 45?
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You'd be hard-pressed to name any people that don't have a history of fighting,killing,and enslaving one another.
 
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pettyofficerj said:
I guess that was more acceptible than seeing a black man on a billboard for something more positive, back in the day.
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The thing is, this billboard picture was taken just last year in Memphis, Tennessee. It's one of many Billy Dee Colt 45 billboards in the area.


Put a liquor store on every other corner and do major cutbacks in the education system surrounding the area.
 
Not that it matters, but you would never see a white guy or an asian guy holding some malt liquor on a billboard.
 
pettyofficerj said:
...more acceptible than seeing a black man on a billboard for something more positive....
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They're just keeping in step with upholding the images that the Mass Media wants to convey to the General Populace, that's all....



Los Angeles said:
Not that it matters, but you would never see a white guy or an asian guy holding some malt liquor on a billboard.
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Gee...I wonder *why*?:roll:



















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Los Angeles said:
Not that it matters, but you would never see a white guy or an asian guy holding some malt liquor on a billboard.
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Or white and Asian singers making songs about it. I downloaded a big ass pack of St. Ides commercials from rappers. The songs are cool but still, rapping about malt liquor for a commercial? C'mon. All they talk about in the songs is being lazy, chllin' on the front step and getting St. Ides. Ice Cube and King T did hella songs for it.
 
BA said:
Or white and Asian singers making songs about it. I downloaded a big ass pack of St. Ides commercials from rappers. The songs are cool but still, rapping about malt liquor for a commercial? C'mon. All they talk about in the songs is being lazy, chllin' on the front step and getting St. Ides. Ice Cube and King T did hella songs for it.
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Refer to: Mass Media for further details regarding the reasons why.



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pettyofficerj said:
billy dee!

billy dee!

billy dee!
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Steven said:
You have the right to disagree but I highly doubt that any white woman that visit this site owns a plantation and is enslaving black people. I mean you actually wrote that you disagree that white women here are not enslaving black people it's a fact that slavery has ended. And if you believe that why are you visiting this site you don't strike me has the type of guy that would be interested in a interracial relationship.
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Whn you did have plantations women couldn't own anything other then a stick of gum and a few family air looms.. You cant just say that the only guilty parties on a plantation are those who own the plantation. You got people being treated as cattle, people being sexually assaulted, im sure that White woman took her frustrations out on the slave when she gave birth toa baby lighter then her own ass. The KKK has the position of High Impress and has for most of its history, and etc.How can you say he is not interested in an interracial relationship? We all like White girls but at what cost is too much is the question you make me think about. What you said is akin to telling Muhammed Ali or a Black Panther that he was a hypocrit because he spoke the English language instead of Igbo or Yuruba. Thats lke saying to a golfer that you are surprised hes into golf at all because of segregation at golf course country clubs. Wat you said is on par with the "your trying to be white" nonsense the Black bookworm had to put up with in school. It shouldn't be Black or books, or white girls or honesty about controversies.. At this point the only parties that are still culpable are a few companies and the federal government. A Black man can say that without looking for a hand out, being a hypocrite for having a white girl, and being a whiner or player of the race card.


I have dealt with white women who could never had been apart of the Black races enslavement and oppression, and some who probably wouldn't be opposed to it. No matter what type of White girl your with you must ask yourself if she'd even give you the time of day or treat you with any respect if it were 1937 or 1910.. The whites of that era can't retroactively be givin morals by your white girl or the whites of today and we are all going tohave to accept that a lot of people have scores to settle with our government, some just some not and that with this country being reformed only formally in 1965 and with it being 234 years old the list of those with grievances is quite long..

Reaping the benefits of past injustices is different from enslaving or oppressing anyone. For example if a father steals a toy for his child and the child enjoys the toy it doesn't mean that the child is responsible for the thief the father is.
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Wait a minute every single race on this planet does the same thing. Blacks, Asians, whites and so on celebrate the positive side of their history. All races and ethnic groups ignore the evil committed by their ancestors.
Thats a bad analogy. If the father stole a giant plowing machine and used itto run a massive farm he owned and gave it to his sun it would still be hot, the son's ownership would be null and voided, and the original owner would stil be entitled to the plow. Theres no court that would not return him the plow. the son saying he enjoyed using it or liked how it worked would not change the out come.

Finders keepers and snatchboxing are two concepts that dont mesh..

As for your second paragraph it does not matter. This is not a UN debate this is a board full of Black Americans who live in America. We don't have ancestors in the same sense that the Murphys around here are related to the O'Murphys in County Cork, Ireland. 1. We are Black, they are Africans, 2. The American Black community could not have been created in Africa because Africans are very divided, 3. The second Black Americans came into their own North American identities the ties to Africa was severed and so was an type of responsibility for African misdeeds.Even the Black Americans in Liberia remain Black.. They never rejoined or unify withthe African communities and Blacks are not recognized as Africans by most Africans anyway, Blacks like the Latinos are North Americans because its our place of establishment not because we lve here and our parents and your great grand daddy's momma's momma and blah blah. Any critcism of Black misconduct must be confined to 1600-present or something close. With that said if we are a U.S. based population why are non-U.S. atrocities and controversies always sited? People point to jews not complaining about the Holocaust here but i say to that if you don'tlive in a state that was Germany or Axis not only weren't you a victim but by way of borders it aint even your business at all. So the next time someone brings up THEIR peoples suffering to counter Black angst over injustices you tell them that if it wasn't in U.S. jurisdiction you can't bring it up and it dont matter. We arent required to care about other countries' business. You can bring up the Chinese Exclusion act but don't tell me about the rape of Nanking.. We were opposed in the land of freedom, its not the oppression but the irony that fuels todays rage i believe. The oppression of others doesn't seem like much if it takes plce in your run of the mill cookie cutter country.


Okay I think you maybe a troll that a sweeping indictment of a entire race. I think you maybe suffering from some prejudice yourself your assuming a lot. Where in this forum have you read a white woman statement telling black folks to get over racism. Sometimes whites are defensive because us black folks are racially sensitive and that's not our faults it's understandable it was how this society was designed. Racism is dogma it wont go away only thing you can do is manage it. Any white woman in a relationship with you must battle depression after the guilt trip you put her thru and yet it's your opinion and your entitled to it.
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A strong white woman would not be guilty she would assert her common ground with you as a woman and extend commendation to those who you criticized, assuming you were right. Not get either too PC or pull some doggone bullshit talking about the statute of limitations and how she was born in the late '80s and didn't know and blassai blah. If your intent was not to make her feel guilty you dont need to apologize or drop the cause you need to clarify who or what you deem responsible and how shes not at fault. Thats the MOST YOU CAN DO without comprising your standing or principles just because you are so elated to have that white girl.. I love white girls to but not speaking my mind is at to great a cost.. Its not like Serena Williams or Keri Washington don't do nothing for me at all ya know..?

I see now, your one of those types that is more concerned with the ramifications of his statements then the accuracy of his statements. You need to worry about whats right and whats wrong not whats unifying and whats divisive.. And that logic extends FAR beyond the debate on slavery..

Iggy said:
Dude, no white guy(or white person in general) alive today is responsible for slavery either.
You need to quit having this victim mentality.
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Being angry about Jim Crow doesnt make one a victim. Does going to a hospital for a broken arm make one a baby? Does going to a food pantry for the first time ever make one a defeatist? Regardless of who is or is not alive the aftershocks still have an impact. Wealth is passed down in America. The slaves got the old plantation then it was given bk to the master, youhad the ex slaves being oppressed with Black Codes, then i the 1880s you had the government try to council out the scores of Black workers looking for work by importing the much touted eastern European immigrants. Those immigrants were to my great grandfather what todays mexican is to your white ass and hell even my Black ass.. I dn't know if your white though..? Eitherway the government wreaked havoc against the Black community in the military, with he G.I. Bill, poll taxes, the bombing of east st. louis, the tuskigee experiment incident and etc.

Basically to put this in perspective thats like telling Rodney King that you believe in the merits of his civil suit against the LAPD but he should still drop it because as a resident of LA they still patrol the area he lives at, the citizens of LA who did not beet him may have to pay higher taxes to help the dep. pay the civil suit judgment, and that a rookie joining the force years down the line may have to take lesser pay the his predecessors because the LAPD is STILL paying off the legal fees and judgment..
 
One to Remember said:
Whn you did have plantations women couldn't own anything other then a stick of gum and a few family air looms.. You cant just say that the only guilty parties on a plantation are those who own the plantation. You got people being treated as cattle, people being sexually assaulted, im sure that White woman took her frustrations out on the slave when she gave birth toa baby lighter then her own ass. The KKK has the position of High Impress and has for most of its history, and etc.How can you say he is not interested in an interracial relationship? We all like White girls but at what cost is too much is the question you make me think about. What you said is akin to telling Muhammed Ali or a Black Panther that he was a hypocrit because he spoke the English language instead of Igbo or Yuruba. Thats lke saying to a golfer that you are surprised hes into golf at all because of segregation at golf course country clubs. Wat you said is on par with the "your trying to be white" nonsense the Black bookworm had to put up with in school. It shouldn't be Black or books, or white girls or honesty about controversies.. At this point the only parties that are still culpable are a few companies and the federal government. A Black man can say that without looking for a hand out, being a hypocrite for having a white girl, and being a whiner or player of the race card.


I have dealt with white women who could never had been apart of the Black races enslavement and oppression, and some who probably wouldn't be opposed to it. No matter what type of White girl your with you must ask yourself if she'd even give you the time of day or treat you with any respect if it were 1937 or 1910.. The whites of that era can't retroactively be givin morals by your white girl or the whites of today and we are all going tohave to accept that a lot of people have scores to settle with our government, some just some not and that with this country being reformed only formally in 1965 and with it being 234 years old the list of those with grievances is quite long..



Wait a minute every single race on this planet does the same thing. Blacks, Asians, whites and so on celebrate the positive side of their history. All races and ethnic groups ignore the evil committed by their ancestors.
A strong white woman would not be guilty she would assert her common ground with you as a woman and extend commendation to those who you criticized, assuming you were right. Not get either too PC or pull some doggone bullshit talking about the statute of limitations and how she was born in the late '80s and didn't know and blassai blah. If your intent was not to make her feel guilty you dont need to apologize or drop the cause you need to clarify who or what you deem responsible and how shes not at fault. Thats the MOST YOU CAN DO without comprising your standing or principles just because you are so elated to have that white girl.. I love white girls to but not speaking my mind is at to great a cost.. Its not like Serena Williams or Keri Washington don't do nothing for me at all ya know..?

I see now, your one of those types that is more concerned with the ramifications of his statements then the accuracy of his statements. You need to worry about whats right and whats wrong not whats unifying and whats divisive.. And that logic extends FAR beyond the debate on slavery..


Being angry about Jim Crow doesnt make one a victim. Does going to a hospital for a broken arm make one a baby? Does going to a food pantry for the first time ever make one a defeatist? Regardless of who is or is not alive the aftershocks still have an impact. Wealth is passed down in America. The slaves got the old plantation then it was given bk to the master, youhad the ex slaves being oppressed with Black Codes, then i the 1880s you had the government try to council out the scores of Black workers looking for work by importing the much touted eastern European immigrants. Those immigrants were to my great grandfather what todays mexican is to your white ass and hell even my Black ass.. I dn't know if your white though..? Eitherway the government wreaked havoc against the Black community in the military, with he G.I. Bill, poll taxes, the bombing of east st. louis, the tuskigee experiment incident and etc.

Basically to put this in perspective thats like telling Rodney King that you believe in the merits of his civil suit against the LAPD but he should still drop it because as a resident of LA they still patrol the area he lives at, the citizens of LA who did not beet him may have to pay higher taxes to help the dep. pay the civil suit judgment, and that a rookie joining the force years down the line may have to take lesser pay the his predecessors because the LAPD is STILL paying off the legal fees and judgment..
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Who the fuck asked you to read it? The people I quoted are the people I'd like to read it and respond to it. So go on, Órale Órale!! go on back to phishing at google images, find someone else to get cute with..
 
This is a very interesting topic. It honestly does grieve me when I think of our country's -- and our world's, for that matter -- racial history. It's too simplistic to say "it's 2011, all in the past" because we ALL know racism is alive and well, and you can't just undo hundreds of years when the civil rights movement was only a few decades ago.

As a white woman, I know I will never understand being pulled over by the police for no apparent reason, women holding their purses closer when you pass, etc. But I do think women probably have a slightly better understanding than white men, because you know, women have been discriminated against throughout history too. I KNOW I was passed over for a management job a couple years ago in favor of a less qualified white male. The whole business was a good old boys network, really unfair.

So even though the past -- and the present -- is painful, I do appreciate the sentiment that the justifiable racial anger of today shouldn't be targeted towards white women.
 
My position lays somewhere between Steven and UKBlack200's.

If im going to have a serious relationship with a woman then she damn well better have some understanding & appreciation of what it means to be black and to have some knowledge of this country's true history and social dynamic.
 
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