TRUMP Thread

Bliss said:
Well said. But we know to quote Arch now when that issue arises.

Heart disease is self-induced, something you can instantly control, and it only takes ONE PERSON to take control and prevent/rectify it from happening,..two if you get develop it and that's you and your doctor..... Crime, not so much.

Not so much also: Unemployment, high taxes, racism, programs being cut due to budgetary constraints, healthcare, healthcare systems overburdened, an overburdened broken justice system, revolving crime doors....things we can't control unless we instruct our politicians to get a handle on them, all things not untouched ALSO by a swelling illegal population sharing our resources, but barely contributing.

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All those things should be fixed before the illegal population issue. They are higher priority yet we are in a thread talking about a subject that a rich guy who will never have to face these problems wants to address. It clearly shows how separated he is from the average American.
 
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One way to make people angry/scared is to have a bad situation happen to them thats out of their control.

Bliss said:
Well said. But we know to quote Arch now when that issue arises.

Heart disease is self-induced, something you can instantly control, and it only takes ONE PERSON to take control and prevent/rectify it from happening,..two if you get develop it and that's you and your doctor..... Crime, not so much.

Not so much also: Unemployment, high taxes, racism, programs being cut due to budgetary constraints, healthcare, healthcare systems overburdened, an overburdened broken justice system, revolving crime doors....things we can't control unless we instruct our politicians to get a handle on them, all things not untouched ALSO by a swelling illegal population sharing our resources, but barely contributing.

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Bliss said:
Well said. But we know to quote Arch now when that issue arises.

Heart disease is self-induced, something you can instantly control, and it only takes ONE PERSON to take control and prevent/rectify it from happening,..two if you get develop it and that's you and your doctor..... Crime, not so much.

Not so much also: Unemployment, high taxes, racism, programs being cut due to budgetary constraints, healthcare, healthcare systems overburdened, an overburdened broken justice system, revolving crime doors....things we can't control unless we instruct our politicians to get a handle on them, all things not untouched ALSO by a swelling illegal population sharing our resources, but barely contributing.

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Yeah, i'm trying to follow his logic, but.... maybe i just need more coffee. :drinkers:
 
shaft2k4 said:
Yeah, i'm trying to follow his logic, but.... maybe i just need more coffee. :drinkers:
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I am pointing out that heart disease is a bigger priority and that illegal immigration is a low point. Because it is, we should worry about it more so than illegal immigration.
 
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archangel said:
All those things should be fixed before the illegal population issue. They are higher priority yet we are in a thread talking about a subject that a rich guy who will never have to face these problems wants to address. It clearly shows how separated he is from the average American.
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So other subjects are fair game. The only subject that should be dropped and unspoken of is the illegal immigration issue.

Interesting.

Are we allowed to talk about it here on the board or should we ask webbie to change the thread subject to "Climate Change" or something?
 
archangel said:
All those things should be fixed before the illegal population issue. They are higher priority yet we are in a thread talking about a subject that a rich guy who will never have to face these problems wants to address. It clearly shows how separated he is from the average American.
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archangel said:
I am pointing out that heart disease is a bigger priority and that illegal immigration is a low point. Because it is, we should worry about it more so than illegal immigration.
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Like Shaft points out, it's Apple's and oranges, Arch. Enough with the ridiculous deflections. If you don't care for discussing it, stay out of the thread. Simple. Go start a heart disease thread.

Just stop equating 20 million illegals with 600,000 heart related deaths.

And stop using the rich man excuse- Obama and Hillary are rich, but you haven't complained when they talk police brutality or about the poor or homeless or whatever.
 
archangel said:
I am pointing out that heart disease is a bigger priority and that illegal immigration is a low point. Because it is, we should worry about it more so than illegal immigration.
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Illegal immigration is not a low point.

It effects our labor market/wages
Middle class
Health care
Education
Culture/demographic

Those are important things...even to mexico...that's why they jealously guard their border.
 
flaminghetero said:
So you can enter mexico illegally and:

Buy property
Start a business.
Open a bank account.
Enjoying Sanctuary cities.
Catch and release programs.
File Lawsuits.
Start hate groups.

Ooooook:rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Flaminghetero also remind your brethren that
by entering Mexico You can also
- quickly qualify for food stamps and Medicare
-quickly qualify T.A.M.E.C.K
(money subsidies to pay for low income housing)
- quickly qualify for Section 8 and low income affordability
- quickly qualify for access to Disability for you and your A.D.D children
- quickly qualify for access to free healthcare
- quickly qualify for access to special educational loans and grants for Spanish
speaking immigrants
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flaminghetero said:
Illegal immigration is not a low point.

It effects our labor market/wages
Middle class
Health care
Education
Culture/demographic

Those are important things...even to mexico...that's why they jealously guard their border.
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Crime...gangs from El Salvador are rampant in Chicago, STL...- The Mara Salvatrucha, (MS-13) theyre in every major city....and they don't infiltrate the burbs to settle in, either....
 
archangel said:
All those things should be fixed before the illegal population issue. They are higher priority yet we are in a thread talking about a subject that a rich guy who will never have to face these problems wants to address. It clearly shows how separated he is from the average American.
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shaft2k4 said:
So other subjects are fair game. The only subject that should be dropped and unspoken of is the illegal immigration issue.

Interesting.

Are we allowed to talk about it here on the board or should we ask webbie to change the thread subject to "Climate Change" or something?
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Are you asking me if they should be dropped and unspoken of or saying that that is what I posted?

Because I posted All those things should be fixed before the illegal population issue.

When I typed that I felt that people would interpret it as after all those things are fixed then we should fix the illegal immigration.
What I am interpreting from your "be dropped and unspoken of " is that you think that I am saying drop the subject and to not speak about it when I am saying on this list let us fix this these problems first and then go fix illegal immigration.


You darn well know that I want the thread to be changed to heart disease and how do we stop over 600,000 Americans from dying everyday.

I have been drilling that point in for how many pages???

I get no respect no respect I tell you.
 
Archman said:

Flaminghetero also remind your brethren that
by entering Mexico You can also
- quickly qualify for food stamps and Medicare
-quickly qualify T.A.M.E.C.K
(money subsidies to pay for low income housing)
- quickly qualify for Section 8 and low income affordability
- quickly qualify for access to Disability for you and your A.D.D children
- quickly qualify for access to free healthcare
- quickly qualify for access to special educational loans and grants for Spanish
speaking immigrants

......You should give-up the argument,.... they will never see the broad picture,..... they will never understand that the illegal Hispanic influx slices directly into their share of the pie and makes the half century of labor entitlements earned by their black parents and grandparents now available to ALL minorities.....What has evolved for Black Americans is insane and the outrage is displaced..............
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I posted a link way back that the Immigration Studies Center cited.. a study they did that said the most affected by illegal immigration are black men. As a result, many BM will never be employed between the ages of, l believe it was 24-38, something like that. (the average age of an illegal immigrant is 32-34.)
 
Bliss said:
Like Shaft points out, it's Apple's and oranges, Arch. Enough with the ridiculous deflections. If you don't care for discussing it, stay out of the thread. Simple. Go start a heart disease thread.

Just stop equating 20 million illegals with 600,000 heart related deaths.

And stop using the rich man excuse- Obama and Hillary are rich, but you haven't complained when they talk police brutality or about the poor or homeless or whatever.
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No, it isn't you. The president has to prioritize these things. He has to literally compare the importance of these items.


about the rich man comment:

I don't complain because they know how it is to grow up not rich. Yes, they are rich now.They didn't inherit it. That is why I can honestly say that any one who didn't grow up rich can relate more so the average American than some one who did.
 
flaminghetero said:
Illegal immigration is not a low point.

It effects our labor market/wages
Middle class
Health care
Education
Culture/demographic

Those are important things...even to mexico...that's why they jealously guard their border.
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It is a low point in comparison to heart disease.
 
archangel said:
No, it isn't you. The president has to prioritize these things. He has to literally compare the importance of these items.


about the rich man comment:

I don't complain because they know how it is to grow up not rich. Yes, they are rich now.They didn't inherit it. That is why I can honestly say that any one who didn't grow up rich can relate more so the average American than some one who did.
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Hillary didn't grow up poor. Bill yes, her, no.
Did Obama grow up poor in Hawaii? I have no idea. I assumed no.
 
Bliss said:
Hillary didn't grow up poor. Bill yes, her, no.
Did Obama grow up poor in Hawaii? I have no idea. I assumed no.
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I never said poor. I said their dads were not millionaires. My argument is that because they didn't grow up rich. It makes them more likely to relate to most of us.
 
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