TRUMP Thread

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bliss, Nov 11, 2016.

  1. Madeleine

    Madeleine Well-Known Member

    I totally don't understand why one should feel one has to defend every single thing a Politician/President has ever done/said just because one voted for that person.
    I did vote for Merkel but I can think of issues I didn't agree with her and things I believe she didn't handle well. I wouldn't hesitate to tell anyone who wants to hear either. She's not paying me to defend her. I find it somehow compulsive if one tries to rationalize and justify every single thing a leader of state does. It's even undemocratic. For instance I liked Obama but I don't agree with everything he ever did and said. I bet even Michelle doesn't.
     
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  2. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    Wait for it...
     
  3. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member

    That's because you're a rational human being. Nothing rational about individuals who spending their time & energy propaganda pimping their opinions/ideologies to total strangers on the internet.
     
  4. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    that's one helluva question.
     
  5. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    And if he was forced to fire her because she had gotten too fat?Would that have been fine with you?
    No, 20 years later you'd be crying the same thing you are right now.

    For 9 months she refused to lose weight, she kept putting on weight. She should have resigned for violating her end of the contract. It's a cut-throat business of looks and if you can't hang, get off the porch. Go do something else.

    Calling the press conference was to call off the hound dogs and show something was being done and guess what - it worked. She lost the weight and kept her crown. No harm, no foul.
     
  6. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

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    ( The FBI are blaming it on SAMSUNG)

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    - "....Of course with CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS etc...all there is is radio silence on FIFTY THOUSAND missing texts between key FBI agents.....'


    - "The major news networks in the mainstream media are not covering this story at all. They are just harping about Russia and even Peter Strzok said in a text to the girlfriend that he didn't think there was "anything there" as far as the Russian investigation. It is disgusting that a government agency can think they have the power to decide who should be President and when a President they don't like is elected they set out to frame him. This needs to be investigated and all the rats need to be brought to trial..."


    - "...As is now clear to all, Obama weaponized the upper levels of the FBI, the DOJ and the Cabinet to destroy his opposition, eliminate those who disagreed with him, and harass those who questioned the criminal actions of his Administration. He broke as many laws as he could to make sure that his "enemies" (all those who opposed him and his.. policies) were spied upon, destroyed and humiliated. Now is the time for Lady Justice to come forth and bring these people to trial. I think she's ready to do just that..."
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    This should chill you to the bone. Russia is a farce and the truth is coming out. This is The DEEP STATE fucking every American.
     
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  7. Madeleine

    Madeleine Well-Known Member

    There’s something called obsessive-addictive disorder...
     
  8. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Right wing politics is a religion in this country. Dotard is fat Jesus. The exemplary model and asperation. Every sunday they have communion with wine and cheetos commerating that special moment when dotard took over twitter and America became great again.
     
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  9. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) Sad.





    It's hilarious actually. Loon Liberals just can't let it go. With every mouth breath, they continue to hysterically yell, bully others, whine and cry over the result, all because they can't cope that they lost the election. How unamerican.
     
  10. Madeleine

    Madeleine Well-Known Member

    I don’t get into it with people who just wanna argue for arguing sake. I’m too lazy for that honestly speaking. If anyone wants to genuinely discuss ideas and facts I’m all game.
     
  11. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    Very Fair question to ask, per the article below, President Obama worked very hard and did a lot more to protect POC and extend civil rights and effect real change to police brutality than most people know.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...l-rights-division_us_586eb67ae4b099cdb0fc4e24

    "The Obama administration shifted resources back to policing cases, investigating departments and helping implement reform in New Orleans, Albuquerque, Cleveland, Seattle and other cities. But DOJ’s police work has gotten more attention since the unrest in Ferguson, Missouri, in August 2014 following the fatal police shooting of Michael Brown, an 18-year-old African-American."

    "The Obama administration has also made big changes to the Justice Department’s sentencing policies and made wide use of clemency, which, along with other factors, have helped make him the first president since Jimmy Carter to leave office with fewer federal prisoners than when he came in. Under Trump, the self-proclaimed “law and order” candidate, those initiatives are in jeopardy."
     
  12. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    Ah, but there's the rub madeleine, when it comes to polarizing issues like politics, religion, ethnicity, money, ect., imo most people cannot even agree on what the "facts" are to begin the conversation.
     
  13. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

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  15. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    Like the old saying goes, you can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. Don't get me wrong, it can be really fun to watch people contort logic and rationality in doing so, but it gets exhausting after awhile.
     
  16. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Two low level FBI agents represent the 'deep state'??lol

    The case against Trump and conspiring with Russia to steal a presidential election will be made based on EVIDENCE, nothing more.

    If Mueller can't PROVE a case for obstruction of justice by Trump's WH, or that Trump's WH had prior knowledge of Russia's bad acts, this entire investigation will be over in a couple of months.

    Obama didn't even release during the campaign that the FBI confirmed Russia had hacked the DNC and released those files through Wikileaks. If Obama was really focused on bringing down Trump, he could have tried a little bit harder.

    You forget, the FBI is NOT investigating Trump.
    Mueller is an independent investigator. Claiming that someone like former FBI director Comey who basically destroyed Hillary's campaign is a part of some conspiracy to bring down Trump is preposterous.

    Chasing those 50,000 emails, most of which were departmental at the FBI, is another right-wing rabbit hole to distract the public.
    Most of the FBI is conservative anyway and if there was an internal conspiracy to bring down Trump, they'd be leaking like a faucet.

    You know what would really be fascinating?? If these two FBI agents had multiple contacts with Russian operatives over the last year.

    Like just about everyone in Trump's WH and who worked on his campaign.

    Trump is in trouble. Everyone knows it. You can tell the right wing is scared because of how many conspiracy theories they're trying to float out there but none of them are sticking.
    Obama didn't do this to Trump. Neither did HRC, Comey or Mueller.

    Trump has been laundering Russian oligarch millions for almost two decades in NYC. They owned him literally since the early 2000s.
    Eric Trump let it slip in 2008 that much of their family's business assets were coming from Russian investments.

    I almost don't want the Trump/Russia conspiracy to be true because of how psychologically damaging it will be to the country.
    This is worse than Watergate, worse than Iran/Contra, and in many ways worse than the assassination of Lincoln.

    We have a POTUS who conspired with a hostile foreign power to hack a rival political party, allowing Russia to weaponize social media in a propaganda attack to poison the minds of the electorate, and in exchange agreeing to lift economic sanctions.

    Then, to cover his tracks, Trump has systematically attacked the MSM and the credibility of the FBI and CIA.
    No president has ever done that. Ever. That's because Trump is dirty.

    When this is all over, Trump is going to branded a traitor and he may not be able to avoid jail time by resigning.
    Instead of fretting over these nobody federal agents, you really need to be worried about what kind of deals Paul Manaforte, Michael Flynn and Papadopolis cut with Mueller and what they've told him privately.
     
  17. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    I agree 1000%!!! As much as I liked Obama... I certainly didn't agree with everything, and I'd never act like he hasn't ever made a mistake. However, with this current dude... Clearly his followers find some way of defending any and everything from him no matter how ridiculous. Some things are truly indefensible, and much of what Trump says falls into that category.
     
  18. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    From the link you posted...

    "..For example, in 2013, Foxconn announced it would create 500 jobs at a new high-tech factory in central Pennsylvania. The factory was never built, and the jobs never came, The Washington Post's Todd Frankel reported.

    Yet the company recently announced a plan to invest $7 billion and hire up to 50,000 workers - a plan that Trump then touted..."


    So, Foxconn declined to invest a mere 500 while Obama was at the helm, yet now under Trump, are investing 50,000 jobs. That's fantastic, right? Trump moves people to invest in America.
    Look at uber-liberal, child-exploiting Apple. The CEO resents Trump, but he loves his cash more. So he's bringing Apple back here because of the tax cuts.
    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/...ate-cash.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

    Of course nothing Apple does is for anyone else but themselves, but at least they're on the hook to bring the jobs back here.
     
  19. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Lol...did you see how rabid Obama defenders behaved for 8 years? He was their walk-on-water Messiah, from the voter to the Press.
    How many conservatives or even centrists who criticized Obama were chased off this site. No one dare call King Obama out, or they were called coons, racists, you name it.
    The Obama defenders here run deep, tight and bullyful.
     
  20. Madeleine

    Madeleine Well-Known Member

    Really exhausting.
     

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