TRUMP Thread

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bliss, Nov 11, 2016.

  1. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

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  2. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Yet he surrounded himself with racists and anti Semites?
    He tries to implement a Muslim ban on countries where he doesn't have financial interests? Under his administration the FBI is making black activist groups a terror watch group but took white supremacists off the list who actually commit acts of terror.

    "I can't believe what you say because I see what you do"
     
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  3. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Those very few muslim countries were already implemented by Obama. Trump merely enforced the order.
    And it was for *90 days to better vett. Why are you against that?

    Which black activist group is under FBI watch and which White Supremist groups were removed? Def curious to see that list.


    * Here is the order, BTW...
    • It brings in a suspension of the US Refugee Admissions Programme for 120 days
    • There is also an indefinite ban on Syrian refugees

    • And anyone arriving from seven Muslim-majority countries - Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Yemen - faces a 90-day visa suspension. Some visa categories, such as diplomats and the UN, are not included in the suspension
    • The order also introduces a cap of 50,000 refugees to be accepted in 2017, against a limit of 110,000 set by former President Barack Obama

    • Priority will be given to religious minorities facing persecution in their countries. In an interview, Mr Trump singled out Christians in Syria

    • Exceptions could be made on a case-by-case basis
     
  4. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

  5. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member


    Everything that comes out of Trump's mouth or is attributed to him needs to be researched.
    The man is such a self-promoter and compulsive liar, which in turn leads his supporters to lie for him, indirectly, that there's no such thing as face value when it comes to Trump.

    When you're dealing with someone who believes the truth is either negotiable or whatever he chooses it be, he simply isn't reliable about what any FACTS are.

    https://www.snopes.com/so-you-think-you-know-donald-trump/

    FYI, most of the accomplishments listed above for Trump seem true, but that doesn't change the fact he's still a racist.
     
  6. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Well of course they're true. Snopes reluctantly admit it, even while trying to detract and deflect.

    It's like when Trump got those college players charges dropped and released from China. You and Loki did your best to deny it. Facts are facts, emotions don't cut it here.

    BTW, a racist doesn't go out of their way to fund a program that restored vision to 200 Haitian kids.

    As Physician and Senator, Paul Rand, tells it...
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    Appearing on NBC’s “Meet The Press” Sen. Paul pushed back against the false narrative that President Trump is racist against Haitians, reporting that Trump once supported Paul’s trip to the Caribbean nation to do eye surgeries on poor Haitians.


    Trump generously donated money to medical mission trips Paul took long before he was elected president.

    According to the Republican senator, he performed roughly 200 surgeries on Haitian patients, restoring their sight, and Trump was a major donor in the effort....

    "...I know for a fact he cares very deeply about the people in Haiti. Because he helped to finance a trip, we were able to give vision back for 200 people in Haiti.”


    I mean, you sound truly ridiculous when all you have to spout with every breath you take is, "He's racist!, he's Stalin! and Hitler! and Mussolini! and Mao!, he's overweight!, he's orange!!!".
    No wonder your Party lost.
     
  7. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    Its clear you are trolling here Bliss, trying to rile people up, but it is HILARIOUS that you, someone who has a tenuous at best relationship with facts, and only believes "facts" when it suits your cause, (now believing the Dept. of Labor numbers when they make Trump look good, but disputing those same numbers when President Obama was in office) would post the bold part above. Case in point, I NEVER denied that Trump played a part in helping the UCLA players, just that he was not the "only" one working on that situation, and chastised him for then needing to go public asking (practically begging) for thanks for doing his damn job in the first place, he was there at the time after all.
     
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  8. Loki

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  9. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    Yeah OK. In light of this... I guess we should all believe the bigly (239lbs, LOL) one is really a great person despite so much that points to him being the opposite.

    That last line... Lol! Well... Kellyanne did once say that we should listen to his heart and not what comes out of his mouth:). She and her alternative facts:). Gotta love it because no one can make this stuff up.
     
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  10. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Just because the slavemaster fed and clothed his slaves and produced offspring from his slave wenches didn't mean he wasn't still racist.

    Trump doesn't have to be walking through Harlem with an AK47 shooting random Black folk to be a certifiable racist.

    Do a google photo search of "Trump+Black+celebrities". Trump likes associating with Black athletes, entertainers, famous people, who have the ability to raise his media profile, get him photographed and give him the attention he craves.

    Trump is less of a real estate developer and more of a media whore superstar wanna be.

    Down South, it's still common for White politicians to be involved in outreach programs with impoverished Black communities, but they're still racist as fuck, as evidenced by their POLICIES while in office.

    There's a reason why so many Black celebs who supported Trump's presidential run have backtracked on him, when they realized he was using them as a photo op.

    The 'real' Trump has been known by everyone who cares to see since last January.
    Per the NYT;
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html
    Trump treated black employees at his casinos differently from whites, according to multiple sources. A former hotel executive said Trump criticized a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks.”

    Who can forget Trump's racially motivated tweets against Obama?

    An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud.

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 6, 2012

    Or the blatant lies he told about Obama when was a law student at Harvard and called him a terrible, lazy student??

    Notice how Trump has a bad habit of overgeneralizing anything that has to do with minorities, whether it pertains to crime, employment, diseases or aptitude.
    “Our inner cities, African Americans, Hispanics are living in hell because it’s so dangerous. You walk down the street, you get shot.” Trump also said to black voters: “You’re living in poverty; your schools are no good; you have no jobs.”

    What sealed it for Trump being an out racist was his willingness to surround himself with White nationalists inside his WH in the form of Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller.

    If Trump supporters want to act as if Trump only 'pretended' to be a racist to win the core base of the Republican party in the primaries, then Trump is truly a sick and twisted human being.
    The problem is Trump isn't pretending. It's who he is and he's proud of it.

    Wishing Trump wasn't racist isn't ever going to make it so.
    And I wish Trump supporters would stop being so obsessed about whether or not Trump is a racist. 99% of all our former presidents were too, so in that sense Donald is among esteemed company.:cool:
     
  11. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    Precisely, hell, Hitler had Jewish friends in his youth, protected an SS officer when he was found to have Jewish ancestry, loved dogs, was a vegetarian, and was *still* a mass murdering embodiment of evil. The point is not to compare Trump with Hitler but to clearly state that a few good deeds does not outweigh the totality of ones actions.
     
  12. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    Agreed! It's like they say... Look... Trump really is a good person and he really cares about non-whites, but we should ignore the boatload of stuff that totally contradicts all claims that there's anything good about his character. I think when he made that comment about "shithole countries" and people immigrating from Norway... He totally was picturing impovershed minorities from the "shithole countries" and young pretty white women when he mentioned Norway.
     
  13. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Are you fat-shaming? How do you call yourself a "liberal" but show immense intolerance for someone's appearance? Would it be ok if your weight was mocked back since you threw the first punch?

    There is an expression that stands true.
    'The Left and their comrades, the press, takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.'.
     
  14. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    No, I'm not fat-shaming. Based upon photos/video... I simply doubt that 239 lb figure is true. I'd guess him at more like 270ish, but that's between him and his doctor. People can mock my weight if they'd like. I'm not disgusted with my body, nor am I totally thrilled with it. At 5'9" and 185-190lb (with a gut)... I definitely can stand to shed some pounds.

    I take him like I take anyone. I hear what they speak, but I absolutely form an opinion based upon their actions/habits.
     
  15. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    That's disingenuous to inject a "pretty white women" comment as your false narrative.
    President Trump didn't just say Norway, he said China as well, a fact which was never reported by the screaming banshee Senator running out of the meeting.

    The facts remain that there was strong language occuring from many Senators in the meeting. Oh how l wish that Senator Durbin would have come running out and said what Obama said in closed meetings, but he was so far up his sphincter and the Republicans respected Obama that they would never leak the swearing and cursing that went on in his meetings.

    Oh, the horror of bad curse words that your angry media spent 10 days covering 24/7 over the word "shithole", lol..
    Again..it's no surprise the Left lost.

    http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/14/politics/david-perdue-kirstjen-nielsen-daca/index.html
    GOP senator: 'Gross misrepresentation' of Trump's 'shithole' remarks
     
  16. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Why should people mock your weight, though? Is this to appease your conscious that your liberal philosophy is a farce? To justify that fat-shaming him is ok, when the Left have spent years publicly denouncing others for it?

    My guess is his weight is correct, as was reported. I feel no need to call Obama's doctor a liar (even if you do).
    FYI, many people can look heavier than they waight or weigh more than they look.

    Trump also often wears a vest because the loon of the Left have becone so deranged and unhinged, his life is threatened every single day.
     
  17. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    Wow! You really think I have an issue with strong language/profanity? My problem is with the person. He's been showing himself to be this whom many detest for decades. The manner in which he treats others is directly responsible for the negative sentiment toward him. Most of us learn at an early age that respect is earned. If he learned it... he sure as heck doesn't practice it.
     
  18. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    If I told someone that I weighed 170lbs (about where I should be)... I'd expect them to not believe it. If Obama's doctor stated that his weight was 155 lbs... I'd think it's simply not true based upon his height even with him being slim. Now, if that's fat-shaming... Then, so be it.

    If Trump needs extra protection... it's definitely his own doing. He certainly is in no more danger than Obama. In fact... I'd say he's not in as much danger as Obama was simply because of his (Obama) skin color.
     
  19. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Flamingheretosexual constantly says on here that America is fast becoming the new Bangladesh. If you disagree with him, why have you never spoken up?

    Trump essentially asked, 'why does America have to take in every person when a natural disaster strikes?'
    The disingenuousness from the Democrats is sickening. They really don't give a shithole if some Nepalese mountain guy lost his hut to a mudslide, just bring him here, give him housing and wrlfare and get his ass registered to vote already.
     
  20. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    Trump also feels the government shouldn't run people's lives yet he wants to tell women what they can and can't do with their body.
     

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