Trayvon Martin's Murder

[Bliss]

Yes, I agree 100% that he should do time and A LOT of it, although with a lesser charge usually comes earlier possible parole, especially with prison overcrowding. Per the bolded part above, from what I see this will all come down to the self defense argument. IMO the prosecution has not presented a very strong case to disprove his assertion that he killed out of self defense, if the jury believes the self defense argument, he very well could walk.

While it is obvious to most of us here that Zimmerman profiled and killed an innocent teen out of prejudice, none of that matters in a court of law, only what can be proven.

Based on the verdict sheet arguments they prepared today, they discussed quite a few options, hoping that they find at least one 'guilty of'. However you're the expert and trust your balanced prediction, as unfortunate as the outcome may be.

 

[goodlove]

From a strict legal perspective, I would not be surprised if GZ walks, or gets convicted of something short of murder or even manslaughter per the links below. The feds could then possibly step in and go for a possible hate crime charge, but that could be a difficult conviction as well.

On a personal level I am still hoping for a conviction on the 2nd degree murder charge as I do believe the accounts of Zimmerman stalking and initiating the altercation that resulted in TM's death. Should be interesting...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zim...r-manslaughter/story?id=19598422#.Ud8Tn1PF9SB

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-pa...weak-little-hope-zimmerman-will-be-convicted/

Mahalos Arch and Bliss.

I have my own ideas of what should be decided.

I wouldn't be able to deliberate. Lets just put it that way.
Hope he is found guilty.

Not to be disappointed if he's not, it is Florida after all, but I have a good feeling about it.

i dont see them convictin g him despite him being guilty

they didnt want to investigate in the first place. they just took zim word for it. come to find out he was full of shit.

rachel jeantal fuckery couldnt be held off for a few days.

hell, people gave to his defense fund. Paniro took a 2nd and 3rd mortgage on his house to give to it.

the prosecution did a half ass job

 

[The Dark King]

What law did he enforce? I'll counter that.....what law did he break? You still won't answer that

Negligible homicide, impersonating a peace officer, menancing, harassment. I guarantee that of I did the same shit to a teenage white kid those would be my charges.

 

[The Dark King]

All I see is how you feel about this. What law did he break?

Worse thing about all this is I do agree with you whole hearted I don't think people here see that I do agree but this is a court of law. And if you look at it in a law sense what you FEEL don't matter

You know killing your black ass wasn't illegal 100 years ago in your state of Texas but it was still wrong right? Even if the law wasn't illegal "broken" should the person get off? Or does right and wrong mean nothing?

 

[jaisee]

paniro doesn't believe the shit he's saying, he's just trolling y'all.

 

[FG]

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Dude, rape is not a joke. Delete it. Its in extremely poor taste.

 

[goodlove]

Dude, rape is not a joke. Delete it. Its in extremely poor taste.

u r right. like its poor taste to come and state/infer that a child deserve to die simply because he look like a thug. smoke a joint W/ in the last 30 days. To pretty much dance an irish jig on this kids grave. to infer that black people are sheep. Yeah ur rite itS poor taste.
Its poor taste to infer that his daughter would be at fault for being raped if she didnt run home. So yeah i will delete it. But make sure u have pan and stump remove their stuff in the process....since we want to talk about taste

 

[goodlove]

Dude, rape is not a joke. Delete it. Its in extremely poor taste.

hello. wheres the anger for this joyful glee over the death of a black male. yeah u rite its wrong to use rape because from ur view its offensive. so what about the BM who r being offended by i believe by two evil nasty lowdown people who really dont belong here.

 

[Alinoa]

hello. wheres the anger for this joyful glee over the death of a black male. yeah u rite its wrong to use rape because from ur view its offensive. so what about the BM who r being offended by i believe by two evil nasty lowdown people who really dont belong here.

Good love

I think the primary difference is that stumpy and pani do it to troll where as FG is saying that the jab at pani should be no joke because rape is such a serious and forever devestating act against the victim.

I was taken back by it and very little offends me in that manner.
Not because I'm a woman or I can't get irony and sarcasm.
Only because I was appalled at the level of himan disregard and meanness in the attack.

You are better than that.

 

[goodlove]

Good love

I think the primary difference is that stumpy and pani do it to troll where as FG is saying that the jab at pani should be no joke because rape is such a serious and forever devestating act against the victim.

I was taken back by it and very little offends me in that manner.
Not because I'm a woman or I can't get irony and sarcasm.
Only because I was appalled at the level of himan disregard and meanness in the attack.

You are better than that.

im not taking away the severity,of it and the insensitivity of it but what u r saying is because ur feelings dont matter so we can allow this fuckery to continue? u know stump and pan r trolls now and not one person said stu.
dont ever forget how the same people blasted me for standing against individuals speaking nasty at BW until visitors from the outside said something then we had to clean up.
i guess until the evilness is turned on u then its a problem. yeah iwas wrong for saying but why r any r upset and not asking this fuckery out

 

[Stumper]

im not taking away the severity,of it and the insensitivity of it but what u r saying is because ur feelings dont matter so we can allow this fuckery to continue? u know stump and pan r trolls now and not one person said stu.
dont ever forget how the same people blasted me for standing against individuals speaking nasty at BW until visitors from the outside said something then we had to clean up.
i guess until the evilness is turned on u then its a problem. yeah iwas wrong for saying but why r any r upset and not asking this fuckery out

God man, you should fucking be charged with first degree murder of the english language. Just stop posting.

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

im not taking away the severity,of it and the insensitivity of it but what u r saying is because ur feelings dont matter so we can allow this fuckery to continue? u know stump and pan r trolls now and not one person said stu.
dont ever forget how the same people blasted me for standing against individuals speaking nasty at BW until visitors from the outside said something then we had to clean up.
i guess until the evilness is turned on u then its a problem. yeah iwas wrong for saying but why r any r upset and not asking this fuckery out

Dude, If you know/think that they are trolls then the last thing you do is stoop into the gutter to call them out like that because you've done exactly what they wanted you to. The whole point of most of the trolling that occurs on this site is to show all of us in a negative light, so low blowing like that plays right into their hands. All cool to call them out for bullshit but not like that bro.

 

[Archman]

PanMan,
Don't let this tidal wave of opposition push you over the edge Bruh.....I have never seen you have to go this far to make your point. ...don't let anything cause you to comprise your class. ...I told you and Stumper way back in this thread that it was not worth staying in the trenches ,with your position, against these numbers. ....You were never in a position to cover any ground in convincing anyone when so many times your exchanges ended in personal hits and insults. ...At that point, it was no longer a debate....Your debate leverage, what ever the verdict outcome, would have always been better after the trial. ....

 

[Alinoa]

im not taking away the severity,of it and the insensitivity of it but what u r saying is because ur feelings dont matter so we can allow this fuckery to continue? u know stump and pan r trolls now and not one person said stu.
dont ever forget how the same people blasted me for standing against individuals speaking nasty at BW until visitors from the outside said something then we had to clean up.
i guess until the evilness is turned on u then its a problem. yeah iwas wrong for saying but why r any r upset and not asking this fuckery out

Several of us have called them on their bs.
But being the trolls that are..it ends badly because they are trolls.

Have you ever seen videos of people who feed ugly ass animals at zoos even with the posted signs that ask them not to?
Yeah. Like that.

Because they both just wiped their filthy cells with your ass

State your opinions (and facts) but don't bow down to them
They win when you lose your together.

Got it?

 

[Bliss]

Dude, rape is not a joke. Delete it. Its in extremely poor taste.

FG can you edit your post to delete Goodlove's, because you co-signed his despicable comment and it and it's still showing in yours. Thanks. xoxo

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

Y ...At that point, it was no longer a debate....

This topic was never a debate topic. It was a discussion topic. That's why they never had any "debate leverage" to begin with.......

 

[FG]

FG can you edit your post to delete Goodlove's, because you co-signed his despicable comment and it and it's still showing in yours. Thanks. xoxo

Thanks girl. That was moronic galore on my part

 

[The Dark King]

The defense can counter that...it's called self defense. He'll walk.

now its self defense? really? lol

 

[Alinoa]

now its self defense? really? lol

Stumper: cheerleading the overdog all the way. Championing the cause for the misunderstood bully and his maligned holy cause.

Goodlove does have a point.
Why is stumpykins still here?

 

[The Dark King]

Stumper: cheerleading the overdog all the way. Championing the cause for the misunderstood bully and his maligned holy cause.

Goodlove does have a point.
Why is stumpykins still here?

but self defense? How is it self defense if you follow me with a gun? On a basic level doesn't that sound like bullshit?