Sexual Harassment/Assault Scandals

^ lol. Dude is kind of crazy, but you're crazy if you think that it's not racial in this justice system and these feminist movements.
“I believe that both race and gender, along with problematic legal rules, led to Bill Cosby’s conviction,” Golden told me. “We ought to remember that between the first trial, which resulted in a hung jury, and the second trial, which resulted in his conviction, was the influence of the #MeToo movement, which occurs in response to sexual assault allegations against a number of powerful and influential men, who, incidentally, are white. This created tremendous public pressure to convict Cosby, a black man, who was seen as the paradigmatic ‘male predator '..."
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https://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article210494249.html

Morgan Freeman got dropped from Visa and Skytrain for shit not as bad as Moonves is accused of and Morgan came with proof of his allegations being B.S.! But Moonves has had WAY more support and practically silence from these feminist movements who all of a sudden want an investigation. Now they want to go about it the right way and not let allegations determine whether he keeps his job and what not. Guarantee you Julie has something to do with that. Keep the same energy for those accused if that's the game they're playing.

Julie Chen is a hypocrite when it comes to men facing allegations that's the point. Also when these were just ALLEGATIONS she and those women was jumping all over him. That isn't after the verdict or even before the first trial began. Do you want me to bring up when her and The Talk went after Scott Baio and others as well on her show? And that's what I think the main point the guy is getting at because he have videos where he is speaking about men going down to just accusations of all kinds.
 
We need to stop trying to defend Bill Cosby. He and Harvey Weinstein were the worst offenders of the Metoo movement and both men accordingly have been forced to answer for their crimes.

If Bill Cosby and Weinstein had only been accused of what Moonves is alleged to be guilty of, their lives wouldn't have changed at all.

Instead of always falling back to Bill Cosby, why aren't we more concerned for brothas like Nate Parker who had his movie tank and his career stalled because activists tried to say he was guilty of rape in college??

THe entire media savaged Bill Cosby, not just Julie Chen. But ultimately he brought that on himself. It's hard to be the victim of a feminist vendetta if you didn't do shit.

Notice all the names of prominent Black Hollywood actors whose names were NEVER mentioned in the Metoo movement.
It's really not that hard to abstain from sexually harassing or raping women.

THe media doesn't have the responsibility of due process. If there's a scandal about you that becomes public, talk shows are going to talk about you.
 
You mentioned us being more concerned of Nate Parker and then you went on to say it's hard to be the victim of a feminist vendetta if you didn't do shit. So which is it you think Nate Parker did something or he didn't? Because Nate Parker didn't do what they accused him of and feminist STILL went after him, so you contradicted yourself. And have you been paying attention? Morgan Freeman, Anthony Anderson, Jamie Foxx, Seal, ect. are prominent black actors and entertainers that have had their names mentioned. Do you believe MeToo and feminism are legit? You said it's not that hard to abstain from those things, but yet the innocent still get accused of it. How many more black men have to get released from prison after being exonerated from rape charges and how many more women have to get a slap on the wrist by the law for falsely accusing black men of rape for you to understand how tone deaf and undermining it is to say it really not that hard to abstain from sexually harassing or raping women when these brothas have abstain from it and still got accused of it. You mentioned one of them in Nate Parker, again this post is contradictory.

And Julie Chen is a hypocrite when it comes to men facing allegations that's the point. There are other men she went after besides Bill Cosby if you want other examples like Scott Baio, Morgan Freeman, ect. This is the last time I'm saying this because I truly think you either didn't pay attention or misread the last part that I wrote about her on my last post.
 
Penn State I believe adjudicated that Nate Parker and another student weren't guilty of rape because of lack of evidence. That's not pure exoneration and allows someone else to interpret what happened.
I still don't think Metoo should have gone after him just because he was ACCUSED of rape.

When I say MEtoo hasn'targeted prominent Black actors, there are no accusations of rape or sexual aault that
 
Don't put Bill Cosby and Morgan Freeman/Anthony Anderson/Jamie Foxx/Seal as equivalent examples of MeToo run amuck and racially targeting BM.
Seal had a neighbor accuse him of unwanted touching and kissing. No charges filed. Morgan Freeman was accused of making inappropriate comments about women's bodies on various movie sets. Nothing happened to Freeman. Anthony Anderson is currently under investigation for sexually assault by LAPD. No charges have been filed although the case is still pending.

Jamie Foxx was accused of hitting a woman with his penis 16 years ago. As far as I know, the man is still working in LA.

Except for Anderson, all these cases are minor and Hollywood has treated them as such. None of these men have had their careers destroyed like many Hollywood professionals by the MeToo movement.

Defend these Black men, not Bill Cosby

Unless you believe Cosby is innocent and being unfairly targeted. Just remember that Cosby admitted in a sealed deposition in 2005 that he routinely gave prescription sedatives to women before having sex, the M.O. most of his victims said he used on them.

I feel for Cosby, but he knew what he was doing was wrong and must have known he was having sexual relations with women without their consent.

I just don't know why some people who speak out about MeToo still bring up Bill Cosby.

On the flip side, Weinstein apparently has emails proving he didn't rape his current accuser. If true, I hope he sues her as so hard she ends up living under a bridge.

Which doesn't change the fact I still believe Weinstein used his Hollywood status to coerce women to sleep with him, but that's still not a crime.
 
andreboba said:
Don't put Bill Cosby and Morgan Freeman/Anthony Anderson/Jamie Foxx/Seal as equivalent examples of MeToo run amuck and racially targeting BM.
Seal had a neighbor accuse him of unwanted touching and kissing. No charges filed. Morgan Freeman was accused of making inappropriate comments about women's bodies on various movie sets. Nothing happened to Freeman. Anthony Anderson is currently under investigation for sexually assault by LAPD. No charges have been filed although the case is still pending.

Jamie Foxx was accused of hitting a woman with his penis 16 years ago. As far as I know, the man is still working in LA.

Except for Anderson, all these cases are minor and Hollywood has treated them as such. None of these men have had their careers destroyed like many Hollywood professionals by the MeToo movement.

Defend these Black men, not Bill Cosby

Unless you believe Cosby is innocent and being unfairly targeted. Just remember that Cosby admitted in a sealed deposition in 2005 that he routinely gave prescription sedatives to women before having sex, the M.O. most of his victims said he used on them.

I feel for Cosby, but he knew what he was doing was wrong and must have known he was having sexual relations with women without their consent.

I just don't know why some people who speak out about MeToo still bring up Bill Cosby.

On the flip side, Weinstein apparently has emails proving he didn't rape his current accuser. If true, I hope he sues her as so hard she ends up living under a bridge.

Which doesn't change the fact I still believe Weinstein used his Hollywood status to coerce women to sleep with him, but that's still not a crime.
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He didn't say he gave them pills without their knowledge.
 
@andreboba You are not following me. You are VERY incorrect if you think Im putting them in with Bill Cosby I'm responding to the things YOU WROTE. Read what YOU WROTE and then my response again, please. And if you are still not following let's just leave it alone because I'm trying to be as clear as possible and it's like your not even trying to understand even a little bit.
 
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@andreboba and you are TOTALLY downplaying what happened to Morgan Freeman because it has been swept under the rug when his case just like those other brothas proved to be bullshit. He lost two sponsors and had commercials pulled from air for nothing! And when that video showed he wasn't even talking to that lady, he denied ever sexually harassing and assaulting ANYONE and that black lady that CNN tried to use came out and said he never made her felt uncomfortable they just walked away whistling and swept it under the rug, hiding hoping it dies down now instead of taking responsibility that they fucked up. It maybe small to you, but I guarantee you Mr. Freeman does not take these claims lightly. That is like if someone just walk up to you and smack you in the face for hitting their friend and people around him say that never happened and the guy who smacked you just walk away no apology, no nothing. You still got smacked for no reason.

It should be bothersome that these claims were even brought up about some of these brothas one after another like that; Freeman, Bridges, Foxx, Anderson one after another like that and managed to get few licks on Freeman and miss the others. I'm not looking at these claims being Bullshit I'm focus on why all these claims were even brought up when they all turned out to be bullshit.
 
Because of MeToo, I think random women just felt more comfortable making sexual harassment claims even if they weren't really substantiated.

I don't think it was some organized plot to take Black male Hollywood actors down.

If Morgan Freeman never stars in another movie and 'disappears' from Hollywood, I'll feel more sorry for him. Just saying, the man is 80 years old and worth approximately $200 million.

Where I'm from that's called FCUK YOU money.lol Those whack females seriously can't touch him because he didn't do anything illegal.
 
andreboba said:
Don't put Bill Cosby and Morgan Freeman/Anthony Anderson/Jamie Foxx/Seal as equivalent examples of MeToo run amuck and racially targeting BM.
Seal had a neighbor accuse him of unwanted touching and kissing. No charges filed. Morgan Freeman was accused of making inappropriate comments about women's bodies on various movie sets. Nothing happened to Freeman. Anthony Anderson is currently under investigation for sexually assault by LAPD. No charges have been filed although the case is still pending.

Jamie Foxx was accused of hitting a woman with his penis 16 years ago. As far as I know, the man is still working in LA.

Except for Anderson, all these cases are minor and Hollywood has treated them as such. None of these men have had their careers destroyed like many Hollywood professionals by the MeToo movement.

Defend these Black men, not Bill Cosby

Unless you believe Cosby is innocent and being unfairly targeted. Just remember that Cosby admitted in a sealed deposition in 2005 that he routinely gave prescription sedatives to women before having sex, the M.O. most of his victims said he used on them.

I feel for Cosby, but he knew what he was doing was wrong and must have known he was having sexual relations with women without their consent.

I just don't know why some people who speak out about MeToo still bring up Bill Cosby.

On the flip side, Weinstein apparently has emails proving he didn't rape his current accuser. If true, I hope he sues her as so hard she ends up living under a bridge.

Which doesn't change the fact I still believe Weinstein used his Hollywood status to coerce women to sleep with him, but that's still not a crime.
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A note about Anthony Anderson..
I remember years ago when he was accused of rape...and it suddenly went away. He's had steady work since then..

Its archived though.

http://ew.com/article/2004/10/07/rape-charges-dropped-against-anthony-anderson/
 
andreboba said:
Because of MeToo, I think random women just felt more comfortable making sexual harassment claims even if they weren't really substantiated.

I don't think it was some organized plot to take Black male Hollywood actors down.

If Morgan Freeman never stars in another movie and 'disappears' from Hollywood, I'll feel more sorry for him. Just saying, the man is 80 years old and worth approximately $200 million.

Where I'm from that's called FCUK YOU money.lol Those whack females seriously can't touch him because he didn't do anything illegal.
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Missing the point. Again a smack in the face no matter how "small" the damage is a smack in the face. You are looking at this in the legal sense. If he truly didn't care like you think he doesn't about being lied on about sexual harassment he wouldn't have even worked to defend himself.

If that's the way you want to view feminism fine. But I would remind you the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women. Now how do you think that happened?
 
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True, but it kind of builds a strong circumstantial case against Cosby that he gave some women drugs without their knowledge.
At least that's what his jury thought.
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That's ridiculous. Just because it's a pill instead of liquor or pot, people jump to these conclusions.

In that case, If the girl next door likes bm, it's enough circumstantial evidence for your lady to say you fucked her. Because hey, it could have happened.

What a load of shit.
 
Beasty said:
That's ridiculous. Just because it's a pill instead of liquor or pot, people jump to these conclusions.

In that case, If the girl next door likes bm, it's enough circumstantial evidence for your lady to say you fucked her. Because hey, it could have happened.

What a load of shit.
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The difference is Bill Cosby had dozens of women claiming he drugged them before he raped them. Then his deposition becomes public where he admits he gave women sedative prescription drugs before having sex with them.

I can easily see how a prosecutor could make the case that Cosby just told on himself.

Look, some of you think Cosby is not guilty on principle because there's no overwhelming evidence to prove that he did it. But I came around on my thinking when I heard how may comics, not just Hannibal Burress, said they had heard Cosby was raping chicks back in the day and it was just considered common knowledge.

Even his wife at the end believed he was guilty and divorced after nearly 60 years of marriage.

Where I think Cosby really fucked up is he had women who were willing to fuck him WITHOUT being given drugs, and yet he still gave it to them without really identifying what the drugs were.

IMO Cosby was so used to doing it that he did it when he didn't have to.

WHen you're giving women pills and spiking their drinks and aren't informing them what the drugs are, or telling them there are drugs in their drink, that goes towards intent.

Dudes like Cosby are the reason women in clubs tell girlfriends not to leave their drinks unattended, and if they do, not to drink them.

Just like I don't believe Michael Jackson was a child molester, but real damn close(!), I believe Cosby was a rapist, except he didn't quite realize what he was doing was rape.

If you're having sex with a woman and she's semiconscious and not really responsive, even if you told her what the pills where it's still rape.

Yeah she owns some of the responsibility for taking the pills, but as a man you have more responsibility to know it's a crime to have sex with someone who's too fucked up and drugged out to give her consent or be an active participant.
 
andreboba said:
The difference is Bill Cosby had dozens of women claiming he drugged them before he raped them. Then his deposition becomes public where he admits he gave women sedative prescription drugs before having sex with them.

I can easily see how a prosecutor could make the case that Cosby just told on himself.

Look, some of you think Cosby is not guilty on principle because there's no overwhelming evidence to prove that he did it. But I came around on my thinking when I heard how may comics, not just Hannibal Burress, said they had heard Cosby was raping chicks back in the day and it was just considered common knowledge.

Even his wife at the end believed he was guilty and divorced after nearly 60 years of marriage.

Where I think Cosby really fucked up is he had women who were willing to fuck him WITHOUT being given drugs, and yet he still gave it to them without really identifying what the drugs were.

IMO Cosby was so used to doing it that he did it when he didn't have to.

WHen you're giving women pills and spiking their drinks and aren't informing them what the drugs are, or telling them there are drugs in their drink, that goes towards intent.

Dudes like Cosby are the reason women in clubs tell girlfriends not to leave their drinks unattended, and if they do, not to drink them.

Just like I don't believe Michael Jackson was a child molester, but real damn close(!), I believe Cosby was a rapist, except he didn't quite realize what he was doing was rape.

If you're having sex with a woman and she's semiconscious and not really responsive, even if you told her what the pills where it's still rape.

Yeah she owns some of the responsibility for taking the pills, but as a man you have more responsibility to know it's a crime to have sex with someone who's too fucked up and drugged out to give her consent or be an active participant.
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Good post except Cosby knew he was raping them but didn't GAF.
Well, literally he did, but cognitively, that would be a no. Thanks for recognizing his off screen personna, l know you felt differently in the beginning.
 
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andreboba said:
The difference is Bill Cosby had dozens of women claiming he drugged them before he raped them. Then his deposition becomes public where he admits he gave women sedative prescription drugs before having sex with them.

I can easily see how a prosecutor could make the case that Cosby just told on himself.

Look, some of you think Cosby is not guilty on principle because there's no overwhelming evidence to prove that he did it. But I came around on my thinking when I heard how may comics, not just Hannibal Burress, said they had heard Cosby was raping chicks back in the day and it was just considered common knowledge.

Even his wife at the end believed he was guilty and divorced after nearly 60 years of marriage.

Where I think Cosby really fucked up is he had women who were willing to fuck him WITHOUT being given drugs, and yet he still gave it to them without really identifying what the drugs were.

IMO Cosby was so used to doing it that he did it when he didn't have to.

WHen you're giving women pills and spiking their drinks and aren't informing them what the drugs are, or telling them there are drugs in their drink, that goes towards intent.

Dudes like Cosby are the reason women in clubs tell girlfriends not to leave their drinks unattended, and if they do, not to drink them.

Just like I don't believe Michael Jackson was a child molester, but real damn close(!), I believe Cosby was a rapist, except he didn't quite realize what he was doing was rape.

If you're having sex with a woman and she's semiconscious and not really responsive, even if you told her what the pills where it's still rape.

Yeah she owns some of the responsibility for taking the pills, but as a man you have more responsibility to know it's a crime to have sex with someone who's too fucked up and drugged out to give her consent or be an active participant.
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There wouldn't have been dozens if they would have reported his ass when it happened. It's selfish not to report someone that's out there raping.

Do you think the police would have refused to write it up on report?

The way I see it. If it wasn't worth reporting then it isn't worth reporting now. Wish I was on that jury.

Reporting it years later is reasonable doubt.

Another thing, guys know when sex is consensual or not doesn't matter if alcohol or drugs are involved. Just like you know if you're really pleasing a woman in bed or not. I always thought those annual lectures in the military on "how not to be a rapist" were bullshit. If you dont get it the first time you belong in jail.
 
andreboba said:
On the flip side, Weinstein apparently has emails proving he didn't rape his current accuser. If true, I hope he sues her as so hard she ends up living under a bridge.

Which doesn't change the fact I still believe Weinstein used his Hollywood status to coerce women to sleep with him, but that's still not a crime.
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Weinstein already admitted this was the case a few weeks ago:

Disgraced Hollywood executive admitted to offering acting jobs to actresses in exchange for sex, but claims 'so does everyone.'
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Also, it looks like Weinstein will be getting off.
 
andreboba said:
The difference is Bill Cosby had dozens of women claiming he drugged them before he raped them. Then his deposition becomes public where he admits he gave women sedative prescription drugs before having sex with them.

I can easily see how a prosecutor could make the case that Cosby just told on himself.

Look, some of you think Cosby is not guilty on principle because there's no overwhelming evidence to prove that he did it. But I came around on my thinking when I heard how may comics, not just Hannibal Burress, said they had heard Cosby was raping chicks back in the day and it was just considered common knowledge.

Even his wife at the end believed he was guilty and divorced after nearly 60 years of marriage.

Where I think Cosby really fucked up is he had women who were willing to fuck him WITHOUT being given drugs, and yet he still gave it to them without really identifying what the drugs were.

IMO Cosby was so used to doing it that he did it when he didn't have to.

WHen you're giving women pills and spiking their drinks and aren't informing them what the drugs are, or telling them there are drugs in their drink, that goes towards intent.

Dudes like Cosby are the reason women in clubs tell girlfriends not to leave their drinks unattended, and if they do, not to drink them.

Just like I don't believe Michael Jackson was a child molester, but real damn close(!), I believe Cosby was a rapist, except he didn't quite realize what he was doing was rape.

If you're having sex with a woman and she's semiconscious and not really responsive, even if you told her what the pills where it's still rape.

Yeah she owns some of the responsibility for taking the pills, but as a man you have more responsibility to know it's a crime to have sex with someone who's too fucked up and drugged out to give her consent or be an active participant.
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I'm going to give you something on Cosby. There is WAY more evidence on Cosby's accusations than on MJ's. But I disagree with you saying real damn close. MJ was young in the mind and heart, a man who as he said himself didn't have a childhood. Scheming ass adults tried to take advantage of that and get money off of a very rich man and the media did the rest including OPRAH in trying to sensationalize the hell out of it. People let mainstream media and other media sites that have been known to lie and use propaganda be their guide to the truth. Conan O'brien put out this hilarious and eerie video of how fucking scripted a lot of the news media is


I'am simply not letting what I hear from the media control the narrative. Which is one of the reason I gave you that quote from another source. Got to look at the bigger picture and be suspect when they want you to look at very few or one place.
 
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Weinstein already admitted this was the case a few weeks ago:




Also, it looks like Weinstein will be getting off.
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Yeah and like @andreboba said what he admitted to doing was not a crime. Some of these actresses now want to make it a crime or sexual harassment and exaggerate what happen because they now feel bad about it but don't want to face responsibility on their end.
 
Asia Argento Settled With Sexual Assault Accuser Last Year (Report)

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Asia Argento, leading Weinstein accuser and voice in the #MeToo movement, reportedly paid a young actor $380,000 after he accused her of sexually assaulting him while he was underage
https://variety.com/2018/biz/news/asia-argento-sexual-assault-settlement-1202909861/
https://twitter.com/search?q="Asia Argento"&src=tren

I put the twitter search of her name there for you guys to after rading this article watch people defend her. Sick and a straight up example of hypocrisy! She spoke out against these men accused of sexual assault after she settled with her accuser who was a minor and was leading this movement. Interesting how the 'believe the victims and never blame the victims' suddenly want to wait for evidence and proof now and/or are excusing it.
 
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