Sexual Harassment/Assault Scandals

[K]

Oh Im aware how terribly things are done and the movie overall. My girl felt the same way you do about the lead male. lol.

I was talking about the limitations of sexual things they were doing like getting her breast sucked on by the actor, briefly but still something that's a rarity. That is the 3rd of 4th time I have seen on either mainstream cable tv show or a movie they go that far. Maybe you guys seen more than me, but the sex scenes I usually see usually just involve breast and butt TOUCHING and that's about it. lol.

OOOH....I didn't really pay attention...it was so bad. I saw it on DirectTV so I wouldn't have thought anything about pushing the limits.

 

[K]

My girl felt the same way you do about the lead male.

There was absolutely NOTHING about him that read strong, alpha, assertive.....nope. Wuss - yep.

I didn't think she was too great either.

It was one of the worst things I ever sat through.

 

[Madeleine]

It was one of the worst things I ever sat through.

That sounds different to what one usually hears about it!

 

[darkcurry]

Nelly's girlfriend offers her statement on Nelly's latest accusers.

https://twitter.com/MsJackson/status/956718837067497472

 

[ColiBreh1]

Harvey Levin must be upset that James Franco got snubbed, they are bringing up Kobe Bryant's past cheating sex scandal because he got nominated for an Oscar. Now all of a sudden they are putting Kobe's past up, but end up equating it to Aziz Ansari. LOL!

http://www.tmz.com/2018/01/23/kobe-bryant-oscar-nomination-sexual-assault/

But peep some of their headlines on Kobe before this James Franco snub and Kobe nomination.


http://www.tmz.com/2017/12/06/kobe-disneyland-first-birthday-baby/
KOBE BRYANT DISNEYLAND B-DAY FOR BABY MAMBA... Kobe-est Place on Earth!!


http://www.tmz.com/2017/11/03/kobe-bryant-conor-mcgregor/
G.O.A.T. recognize G.O.A.T.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/12/20/peter-king-kobe-bryant-magic-johnson-politics/
KOBE BRYANT HAS 'THE RIGHT MOVES' FOR POLITICS Says U.S. Congressman

http://www.tmz.com/2017/10/20/kobe-bryant-trick-shots-nike/
KOBE BRYANTHITS AWESOME TRICK SHOT During Photo Shoot


Kobe is a cheater not a sex offender. He had sex willingly with a woman who sexed 3 men before Kobe on the same night, that's one of the reasons why she dropped criminal charges, not because of the BS she said or she wouldn't have pursued civil charges. People called BS on her and his contradicting statement(which sounded like he was coerced into reading that to help this thing go away.) after she dropped criminal charges and went after the money. Which Kobe ever denied giving her a dime. People moved on including his accuser. Kobe gained a lot of LOVE and redemption and forgiveness(even though the only person if she chose to forgiveness should matter is his wife, Vanessa.) throughout the rest of his career. TMZ just went after the wrong one and have already received backlash for it. Kobe has millions of supporters, a lot of famous fans and international status... choose your battles carefully. If any of these women in the #MeToo movement move on this TMZ hitpiece they are going to fuck up big time.

I'm conflicted about this because I've always felt Kobe was the 1 black male celeb/athlete who didn't/doesn't get the same heat that other black celebs who been involved in some type of scandal/controversy.

 

[ColiBreh1]

Is @darkcurry still ranting about Jessica Chastain?


YouTuber MRSUPERBOY223 put out a good video a couple weeks ago defending her:

Does this change your mind?

No, because again this is what she has done in the past. I have spoke and applauded her about her past actions. She toned it down since then if you have notice after she got backlash for calling hollywood racist, but kept her foot on the gas against sexism. I have made examples and could agree that she is probably tone deaf. Plus who do you think she is going to start pandering to? These bw that called her out. As she have done already. The type of black women WE have called out on here. She will be rockin' with that blackgirlmagic carpet ride. lol.

And remember when people did go after the head like they did with the oscars, we had white actors and actresses defend it. And even clown Will and Jada for boycotting. All of a sudden these white people that defended the oscars lack of poc are forgiven and act like they never said it. There are white actors out there that have been forgiven by hollywood for their racist remarks. But sexist remarks will not be. Remember Hollywood is a liberal town that will defend liberal racism.

My thing is as tough and un-afraid as some of these white people in hollywood are on sexism, homophobia(You know how hard they fight for that.), ect. where is the same energy and boldness against racism if you are truly against racism. Give me some recent examples within the past 4 months to show me she is still outspoken against racism(other than her mudbound support for mary j blidge.) Activist don't back down and have been treated a lot worse than celebrities. She doesn't have to because she's white, they get a pass is the type of thinking that makes anti-diversity okay. As these women know with sexism, powerful people get rocked by actions not words.
I have talked about the famous white women I rock with, I don't know why ya'll want me to rock with her but like I said I'm a chill on Jessica Chastain because I see it's bothering some of you guys, so I will tone it down myself. lol.


The grammys are next month and a lot of the nominees that are black men. Some celebrities(some of them white.) didn't like the fact that it was mostly men nominated. This should be interesting.

@darkcurry You see this story the last couple days?:

Jessica Chastain has long been a champion of equal pay for women in the film industry — and according to friend and co-star, Octavia Spencer, she's "walking the walk" by helping other women close the wage gap, too.

Also according to this older MRSUPERBOY223 video from 3 years ago, looks like Jessica Chastain got heat in Hollywood for speaking up at an Awards Show:

 

[Thump]

@darkcurry You see this story the last couple days?:

Also according to this older MRSUPERBOY223 video from 3 years ago, looks like Jessica Chastain got heat in Hollywood for speaking up at an Awards Show:

Kind of off topic, but I have to respect the hustle these women have going with the "equal pay" demands. Hollywood has never been about equal pay for any gender. George Clooney got $20 million for Ocean's Eleven and Matt Damon got $5.5 million. Sandra Bullock got $10 million for The Heat and Melissa McCarthy got $2.5 million. People get paid according to their box-office earnings and their name recognition. However, these clever ladies have read the winds very carefully and they have picked the perfect time to exploit Hollywoods gender PR problems to their own advantage.

Another funny thing is that Octavia Spencer should be getting paid MORE than Jessica Chastain if we are going by the box office earnings of the movies they have been in. As the "star" of a movie, Jessica Chastain is box office poison. The last three movies with her face on the posters (Miss Sloane, The Zookeepers Wife, and Molly's Game) have made less than $100 million combined. On the other hand, Octavia's last three movies with her face on the posters (The Shack, The Help, and Hidden Figures) have earned $548 million.

 

[darkcurry]

@darkcurry You see this story the last couple days?:

Also according to this older MRSUPERBOY223 video from 3 years ago, looks like Jessica Chastain got heat in Hollywood for speaking up at an Awards Show:

Couple things about this. 1 Octavia said it herself on twitter she didn't get five times her pay as media outlets suggest. And two with celebrities be aware of publicity stunts. And again about the MRSUPERBOY223 was in the past. She faced backlash, but then let up on what she help expose in Hollywood to save her career. She probably didn't expect the backlash and was taken back as to why she toned it down since those comments, but hey welcome to being black calling out racism in a place like Hollywood. lol.


But I already agreed with @JamalSpunky she maybe tone deaf at times, because it doesn't take away what folks called her out on that I posted before http://www.whitewomenblackmen.com/f...harassment-scandals.29417/page-3#post-1070560

" I seen this one actress Jessica Chastain tweeted the lack of women headlining CBS shows when they showed only SOME of their line up and it had mostly white men and one black man. I guess she "missed" that, just like she also "missed" that CBS has more female lead shows than black male lead shows on their network, like most national and cable networks."

also the part where she criticize Zack Snyder "sexist" costume choices for wonder woman and the amazons because they were showing *gasp* midriff and thighs. lol. When they were no different from Patty Jenkins' costumes.

Yeah she did for a black woman, but is she still aware black men are in the same boat when it comes to discrimination. That is what I will stay aware of with her, she is still in the education phase. Her heart is in the right place but she is among white feminist that can very well teach the wrong things. She's in Hollywood, not a rebel, not blacklisted. She would've been blacklisted if she wouldn't had let up on calling out racism in Hollywood.

 

[ColiBreh1]

Kind of off topic, but I have to respect the hustle these women have going with the "equal pay" demands. Hollywood has never been about equal pay for any gender. George Clooney got $20 million for Ocean's Eleven and Matt Damon got $5.5 million. Sandra Bullock got $10 million for The Heat and Melissa McCarthy got $2.5 million. People get paid according to their box-office earnings and their name recognition. However, these clever ladies have read the winds very carefully and they have picked the perfect time to exploit Hollywoods gender PR problems to their own advantage.

Another funny thing is that Octavia Spencer should be getting paid MORE than Jessica Chastain if we are going by the box office earnings of the movies they have been in. As the "star" of a movie, Jessica Chastain is box office poison. The last three movies with her face on the posters (Miss Sloane, The Zookeepers Wife, and Molly's Game) have made less than $100 million combined. On the other hand, Octavia's last three movies with her face on the posters (The Shack, The Help, and Hidden Figures) have earned $548 million.

Ehhhh....Weren't those 3 Octavia Spencer films you listed, all ensemble cast films though? I look at at Octavia Spencer as a character actress, not a leading lady.

 

[Thump]

Ehhhh....Weren't those 3 Octavia Spencer films you listed, all ensemble cast films though? I look at at Octavia Spencer as a character actress, not a leading lady.

Movie posters are basically ads to entice people to pay to see the movie. The movies with Octavia Spencer's face on the posters made more money than the movie with Jessica Chastain's face on the posters. So in my book, Octavia Spencer is more of a box office draw than Jessica Chastain is.

Also being a character actor/actress is still a bankable thing to be. Samuel L. Jackson is probably the biggest "character" actor of all time and that brother puts butts in seats.

 

[Skaddix]

Eh I dont necessarily expect people to be perfect u expect them to actually evolve so when they fuck up you dont keep giving them blank checks for more fuckups.

There are critical stars and box office stars...Octavia should get more cause she is a critical star with an actual fucking Oscar...Jessica has neither the Box Office or Critical Stardom.

 

[darkcurry]

Jessica Chastain is a very good actress, just like Nicole Kidman, Michelle Williams, Meryl Streep. But also like those ladies she don't bring in much box office success off her name. Which could mean, Jessica was earning more than Octavia based on her being a very good WHITE actress.

 

[ColiBreh1]

Movie posters are basically ads to entice people to pay to see the movie. The movies with Octavia Spencer's face on the posters made more money than the movie with Jessica Chastain's face on the posters. So in my book, Octavia Spencer is more of a box office draw than Jessica Chastain is.

Also being a character actor/actress is still a bankable thing to be. Samuel L. Jackson is probably the biggest "character" actor of all time and that brother puts butts in seats.

Jessica Chastain is a very good actress, just like Nicole Kidman, Michelle Williams, Meryl Streep. But also like those ladies she don't bring in much box office success off her name. Which could mean, Jessica was earning more than Octavia based on her being a very good WHITE actress.

In 2018, there there is no such as a movie star that can consistently open up 100 million dollar movies based on his (or her) name alone. Movies (ESPECIALLY film franchises) sell themselves now.

 

[darkcurry]

In 2018, there there is no such as a movie star that can consistently open up 100 million dollar movies based on his (or her) name alone. Movies (ESPECIALLY film franchises) sell themselves now.

Good and factual point, but the star does garner some of that percentage themselves... especially if they have big fan bases like Will Smith, who Hollywood keeps trying to tell us he's done but he just scored quietly with his Netflix movie BRIGHT breaking records.

 

[Ivy Lebelle's Bae]

I'm conflicted about this because I've always felt Kobe was the 1 black male celeb/athlete who didn't/doesn't get the same heat that other black celebs who been involved in some type of scandal/controversy.

Harvey Levin is suspect when it comes to black folks.

 

[Thump]

In 2018, there there is no such as a movie star that can consistently open up 100 million dollar movies based on his (or her) name alone. Movies (ESPECIALLY film franchises) sell themselves now.

Hollywood is still paying people like their names mean something. Robert Downey Jr. got paid $50,000,000 to come back for more Marvel movies. And Jennifer Lawrence's salary and role increased from a supporting character earning her $250,000 for her first X-Men movie to the lead role which earned her $8,000,000 for the most recent X-Men movie.

 

[andreboba]

Hollywood is still paying people like their names mean something. Robert Downey Jr. got paid $50,000,000 to come back for more Marvel movies. And Jennifer Lawrence's salary and role increased from a supporting character earning her $250,000 for her first X-Men movie to the lead role which earned her $8,000,000 for the most recent X-Men movie.

Chalk it up to savvy agents and superstition. You never really know precisely what makes a blockbuster a success, which means most Hollywood producers are loathe to mess with the cast if they're bringing in 9 figure profits to the studio.

Maybe X-Men and The Avengers would be blockbusters without Robert Downey and Jennifer Lawrence. But, maybe not.

 

[darkcurry]

Chalk it up to savvy agents and superstition. You never really know precisely what makes a blockbuster a success, which means most Hollywood producers are loathe to mess with the cast if they're bringing in 9 figure profits to the studio.

Maybe X-Men and The Avengers would be blockbusters without Robert Downey and Jennifer Lawrence. But, maybe not.

And when it comes to the star of movie franchises it is hard to be like well we can replace you when the actor is known to audiences as that character or is very good in that role like Robert Downey, jr as Iron Man.

 

[Bliss]

Kimora Lee Simmons finally breaks silence on rape allegations against ex-husband Russell after a 15th woman comes forward

https://www.google.com/amp/www.dail...-Simmons-posts-Russells-rape-allegations.html

This was tough to read.
Just don't understand why, in 2016, a woman who says she was violently raped by Russell...didn't go to the police that day. That week. Even that year.

And now all she is doing, is suing him for money?

The hip hop mogul is being sued for more than $5million by a woman, Jennifer Jorasik (above), who claims he sexually assaulted her in his home in 2016

 

[darkcurry]

Kimora Lee Simmons finally breaks silence on rape allegations against ex-husband Russell after a 15th woman comes forward

https://www.google.com/amp/www.dail...-Simmons-posts-Russells-rape-allegations.html

This was tough to read.
Just don't understand why, in 2016, a woman who says she was violently raped by Russell...didn't go to the police that day. That week. Even that year.

And now all she is doing, is suing him for money?

The hip hop mogul is being sued for more than $5million by a woman, Jennifer Jorasik (above), who claims he sexually assaulted her in his home in 2016

This is one of the biggest things that is making it impossible for those denying to have a credible defense, because if they didn't go to the police that means no rape kit done, no way of truly telling whether she was raped or not, but in this climate people are going to believe you regardless because to them it's why would a woman lie about being raped.

But the other takeaway is that Kimora waited after the 15TH woman to defend him! Why, we're you enjoying your husband being brought down like this if you knew he didn't do it.