Rosannebar and Denzel washington!!!

7Seven said:
I am not making a Judgment; a Judgment manifest out of opinion, the "Colour Complex" is an matter of Fact. A Judgment would be calling all those who suffer under this mentality a Sheep, A Sheep: is regarded as timid, weak or submissive and can be easily swayed or led by illusions, fabrications, and physical yokes of society and its social programming................Lets be clear--Knowledge, Reason, Belief, and Illusion. The last two we class together as opinion, the first two as intelligence, opinion being concerned with the world of the Becoming, Knowledge, with the world of Reality. The "Colour Complex" being Reality, and the other, A Sheep, mere opinion. I can play with words all day, you can Hate me for being so observant and intelligent, but in its discourse, I guarantee you will learn. But this is about WW and their unrealistic expectations when dating interracial and BM NOT placing higher standards on them as they do BW.

You misunderstand me. I wasn't saying that YOU were judging anyone. I was actually agreeing with you on everything you said about those with Color Complexes, meaning that those who do have these abnormal thinking patterns are the ones who DO judge someone else by color. See what I mean?


On you account regarding Racism, your are probably right, it is a toss up between the States, Russia and Africa. Depending on your outlook of Racism you would say Russia; because, "their nature is different then ours." At least, the Racism is Russia and Africa are in you FACE. The Racism here can be your CEO you have "brunch" with everyday. It could the women you slept with the other night. You see, the Racism here tries to hide itself, in comparison, is far worst then the other two.

Yup, pretty much....

and, there are racists in every country, but places like Russia, Africa, Saudi Arabia, etc. are the ones which are usually the most overt about it, as you mentioned, unlike here in the USA.
 
sunstorm said:
Good post jaydun, especially the part about indian women. It will take god himself to convince them that not every black man on earth wants them... And they'd still be skeptical.

I was at a driver's ed course this past summer, to shave a few bucks off my insurance bill, and there was this indian woman, had to be at least 150 years old, there with her husband, who was wearing an auburn toupee, of course. Anyway, this woman as she was entering the room had the nerve to be giving me the ogle, gazing deep into my eyes with a "seductive" smile, right with her creaky ass old curry-scented husband in tow. I'm sure she didn't want anything from me, but she probably wanted to feel beautiful & thought she could "get a rise" out of this young black man. Incredible. Bitch had to be older than dirt itself.

HA HA HA :D


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Of course, the young ones think you want them too, & preemptively "reject" you. That's the dif between minority women and the white women guys like ajawan and 7 are complaining about. The white women come onto you, the minority women "reject" you.


MY EXPERIENCE EXACTLY


I say there is NOTHING wrong with a woman putting herself out there and thinking she can get you if she's coming on to you, like the "fat" ww sometimes do. One day, guys, you might be so old & downtrodden that you'll be wistful for the days when ANY woman comes onto you. Any woman that comes onto me, I'm flattered. I'm not like the "bitch" who sucks her teeth and rolls her eyes because she's "insulted" that a guy finds her attractive.

Any woman who doesn't mind showing me that I have it going on is okay in my book. Doesn't mean I'll get with her, but it's fine, and I appreciate it.

The fucked up ones are the ones who want to take the tact that racism has for hundreds of years now: turn a NIGGER's assets into liabilities, by hating him for them. And that's now the minority woman's way.

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Point two: NO ONE has the right to judge who ANYONE gets with. If white asiaphiles have the right to date ugly ass asian women, if black women have the right to get with any ol' white guy, if asians can be whores for any ol' white guy, if gays can hold hands on the street and bull dykes tongue-kiss on the corner, no one has the right to judge the choices of black men and white women. And that's how it's supposed to be. Everyone has their right to free association.

If Denzel wants to stick his head up Roseanne's ass and walk around with her on his shoulders, it ain't nobody's business but their own. (And maybe their doctors'...)

Yet EVERYONE feels they have the right to judge a black man's choices -- white men, black women, all the other pig-fed minorities, etc., etc. -- even misguided-ass black men. But they have it wrong.

Only a PUNK lets others judge his woman and come between him and his woman, like it's no thang. Black men need to stop being PUNKS in so many ways, it's sad.

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One other point: Who are all these goddam "denzels"? The guys I see with ww aren't usually all that hot any damn way. Who are all these denzels we're talking about with the roseannes? A lot of bm need to get over themselves, and be happy they have a woman at all, since it's looking more and more like we (no, no -- they) can't even defend a woman's right to be with them. All these "denzels" need to be happy they're getting any light at all.

Plus -- it's been a long time since I've seen a bm with a "substandard" ww anyway. It just ain't happening as much as people like to say. If the white women's a "7" the guy's usually about a "6" as far as I'm seeing...

And no -- there is no substantial number of black men who would get with any women just because she's white, certainly not for any length of time anyway. Sure they'll fuck an ugly ww -- when I was younger & wilder I'd fuck an ugly ww, an ugly bw, any woman pretty much who wasn't charging or bubbling out the ass -- but as far as getting with them goes, no it ain't happening much. Most bm want black women, and aren't even thinking about ww, and that's the fact. They're in their own world, believe it or not.

Me, I like ww. Thank you for reading. :mrgreen:

:)
THANKS FOR WRITING. :!: :!:
 
SardonicGenie said:
7Seven said:
I am not making a Judgment; a Judgment manifest out of opinion, the "Colour Complex" is an matter of Fact. A Judgment would be calling all those who suffer under this mentality a Sheep, A Sheep: is regarded as timid, weak or submissive and can be easily swayed or led by illusions, fabrications, and physical yokes of society and its social programming................Lets be clear--Knowledge, Reason, Belief, and Illusion. The last two we class together as opinion, the first two as intelligence, opinion being concerned with the world of the Becoming, Knowledge, with the world of Reality. The "Colour Complex" being Reality, and the other, A Sheep, mere opinion. I can play with words all day, you can Hate me for being so observant and intelligent, but in its discourse, I guarantee you will learn. But this is about WW and their unrealistic expectations when dating interracial and BM NOT placing higher standards on them as they do BW.

You misunderstand me. I wasn't saying that YOU were judging anyone. I was actually agreeing with you on everything you said about those with Color Complexes, meaning that those who do have these abnormal thinking patterns are the ones who DO judge someone else by color. See what I mean?


On you account regarding Racism, your are probably right, it is a toss up between the States, Russia and Africa. Depending on your outlook of Racism you would say Russia; because, "their nature is different then ours." At least, the Racism is Russia and Africa are in you FACE. The Racism here can be your CEO you have "brunch" with everyday. It could the women you slept with the other night. You see, the Racism here tries to hide itself, in comparison, is far worst then the other two.

Yup, pretty much....

and, there are racists in every country, but places like Russia, Africa, Saudi Arabia, etc. are the ones which are usually the most overt about it, as you mentioned, unlike here in the USA.

SardonicGenie,

I was just making a point.........

When ever someone 'tries' to conceptualize their contrapuntal argument they see of contrary character, they immediately try to slander the character of their opposition. In essence, they show lack of competence toward the character in which they attack.

Exhibit A: Sunstorm - He tried to conceptualize his argument whilst using abnormalities of no correlation.

That is a move of cowardice. Not only was it contrived, it served no purpose to his argument. Which is why he cowarded out. Even his argument is illogical. I suppose he 'thought' I was passing judgment, whilst trying to spread some of his own knowledge (but remember, as I stated, Belief and Illusion are of mere opinion). But I never passed Judgment, and I make clarity with the difference between Fact and Opinion - Knowledge and Reason. I sustain, there was never any Judgment being passed.

SardonicGenie, as you can see, he is yet another individual who can not deduce Reality; ultimately, this is faulty logic. But I guarantee he will never attack me in that manner again. It is logic like this which explains why BM/WW relationships have horrible conditioning.

The query I would like Black Men to contemplate thoroughly. Are White Women standards and expectations unrealistic when dating inter-racially?
 
7Seven said:
SardonicGenie,

I was just making a point.........

When ever someone 'tries' to conceptualize their contrapuntal argument they see of contrary character, they immediately try to slander the character of their opposition. In essence, they show lack of competence toward the character in which they attack.

Yes, I have a history with debates that turn out like this in here.


Exhibit A: Sunstorm - He tried to conceptualize his argument whilst using abnormalities of no correlation.

Which is why I posted my thoughts to him following up on his 'rules' thread.


That is a move of cowardice. Not only was it contrived, it served no purpose to his argument. Which is why he cowarded out. Even his argument is illogical. I suppose he 'thought' I was passing judgment, whilst trying to spread some of his own knowledge (but remember, as I stated, Belief and Illusion are of mere opinion). But I never passed Judgment, and I make clarity with the difference between Fact and Opinion - Knowledge and Reason. I sustain, there was never any Judgment being passed.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt from the start.


SardonicGenie, as you can see, he is yet another individual who can not deduce Reality; ultimately, this is faulty logic. But I guarantee he will never attack me in that manner again. It is logic like this which explains why BM/WW relationships have horrible conditioning.

And yet, the white women are the ones who always receive the pat on the back for it.


The query I would like Black Men to contemplate thoroughly. Are White Women standards and expectations unrealistic when dating inter-racially?

You tell me. With such threads as 'Is being a thick girl a race thing?', 'The Ugly Duckling Syndrome!', 'The 'rules' for black men', 'Why over-analyze IR? Or any relationship for that matter...', 'Why I like black men','Tell me couple reasons why BM find WW atractive', and so on, the answer is fairly obvious.
 
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