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Paniro187 said:
So Hillary got debate questions leaked to her before the debates. Smh.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...aa121a-a058-11e6-a44d-cc2898cfab06_story.html
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andreboba said:
Get the story straight. Dona Brazile gave HRC one question before one of the debates when she was working at CNN.

That's the thing about HRC, her scandals are more annoying and frustrating, but they don't really rise to the level of some huge outrage or serious criminal misconduct.
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I don't understand why people are not told the questions ahead of time. People tune in to hear their plans.
 
andreboba said:
Get the story straight. Donna Brazile gave HRC one question before one of the debates when she was working at CNN.

That's the thing about HRC, her scandals are more annoying and frustrating, but they don't really rise to the level of some huge outrage or serious criminal misconduct.
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If it was fox news and this was Trump you would be shouting from the rooftops and hollering "scandal"
 
DudeNY12 said:
I read that too. Personally, I think she still would've cleaned the floor with Trump. She's way too bright, and Trump thinks he's too bright.

I'm not a huge HRC fan (Bernie was my #1 choice), but there's absolutely no way I'd support Trump.
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Agree with first paragraph. I need a better reason to vote for someone other than "well it's not the other fuck up"
 
Paniro187 said:
Agree with first paragraph. I need a better reason to vote for someone other than "well it's not the other fuck up"
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I think HRC definitely has some issues, but not nearly as bad as folks make her out to be. I don't have a problem voting for her as she supports many things that are important to me. However, there's nothing about Trump that's in the best interests of my personal interests, and that's before we even get to his insane personality. That said... I can say that in my opinion. I have plenty of reasons to vote for HRC, absolutely no reason to vote for Trump, and much incentive to vote against Trump.

Also... I was raised such that... Voting is a responsibility that I take seriously and won't pass up.
 
DudeNY12 said:
I think HRC definitely has some issues, but not nearly as bad as folks make her out to be. I don't have a problem voting for her as she supports many things that are important to me. However, there's nothing about Trump that's in the best interests of my personal interests, and that's before we even get to his insane personality. That said... I can say that in my opinion. I have plenty of reasons to vote for HRC, absolutely no reason to vote for Trump, and much incentive to vote against Trump.

Also... I was raised such that... Voting is a responsibility that I take seriously and won't pass up.
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I agree with some of the shit that Trump says he wants to do my problem with him is he's not going to do any of that shit.

Haven't found anything I agree with Hillary on.
 
DudeNY12 said:
I think HRC definitely has some issues, but not nearly as bad as folks make her out to be. I don't have a problem voting for her as she supports many things that are important to me. However, there's nothing about Trump that's in the best interests of my personal interests, and that's before we even get to his insane personality. That said... I can say that in my opinion. I have plenty of reasons to vote for HRC, absolutely no reason to vote for Trump, and much incentive to vote against Trump.

Also... I was raised such that... Voting is a responsibility that I take seriously and won't pass up.
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For the record, Bernie Sanders on the stump for HRC has said multiple times that Hillary's platform is THE most progressive we've ever seen for any U.S. presidential candidate.

No surprise since Bernie's surrogates basically re-wrote the Democratic platform before the DNC convention.
 
Paniro187 said:
Immigration - he won't do a damn thing.
Creating jobs- won't do a damn thing
Bring back outsourced jobs-wont do a damn thing

Not much else really
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You're probably right. I think we'd all like to see more jobs created and oven outsourced jobs returning. However, he's given no real plan for doing so. On top of that... The outright lie about Ford moving production to Mexico when they're really adding production capacity there with no job/manufacturing leaving the US.
 
Justice Department boss of Clinton email probe gave Hillary campaign 'heads up' about crucial Congress hearing into her secret server, WikiLeaks reveals

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November 2nd, 2016

?New Wikileaks bombshell reveals how man in charge of Clinton email probe gave 'heads up' about a hearing to her campaign chairman

?John Podesta, whose emails were hacked, forwarded the message to other campaign staff saying: 'Additional chances for mischief.'

?The Justice Department official charged with giving Congress updates on the Hillary Clinton email probe was counsel for her campaign chairman

?Peter Kadzik represented John Podesta in the '90s when Kenneth Starr was looking into how Monica Lewinsky got a job at the United Nations

?"Fantastic lawyer, Kept me out of jail," Podesta said in a WikiLeaks-released email exchange from 2008


High Level Corruption Link Story
 
Bliss said:
Justice Department boss of Clinton email probe gave Hillary campaign 'heads up' about crucial Congress hearing into her secret server, WikiLeaks reveals

39FE685000000578-0-image-a-50_1478109292665.jpg


November 2nd, 2016

?New Wikileaks bombshell reveals how man in charge of Clinton email probe gave 'heads up' about a hearing to her campaign chairman

?John Podesta, whose emails were hacked, forwarded the message to other campaign staff saying: 'Additional chances for mischief.'

?The Justice Department official charged with giving Congress updates on the Hillary Clinton email probe was counsel for her campaign chairman

?Peter Kadzik represented John Podesta in the '90s when Kenneth Starr was looking into how Monica Lewinsky got a job at the United Nations

?"Fantastic lawyer, Kept me out of jail," Podesta said in a WikiLeaks-released email exchange from 2008


High Level Corruption Link Story
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Bliss, I don't even know why you bother. Hillary is innocent and a wonderful role model for people everywhere, according to everyone here.

Or it's: we know she's corrupt...but TRUMP!!!!

You won't change any minds. They won't change yours.

You know.

I know.

Her supporters gleefully choose to turn a blind eye.

This is how I envision Hillary supporters now:

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All the while, repeating: Trump bad, Hillary good. Trump bad, Hillary good. Russians bad. Hillary good.

So done.
 
This is how I read this post.
Bookworm:Trump bad Hillary bad ..

ME: Then who should you vote for that has a good chance of winning?
Waits for answer:p


Bookworm616 said:
Bliss, I don't even know why you bother. Hillary is innocent and a wonderful role model for people everywhere, according to everyone here.

Or it's: we know she's corrupt...but TRUMP!!!!

You won't change any minds. They won't change yours.

You know.

I know.

Her supporters gleefully choose to turn a blind eye.

This is how I envision Hillary supporters now:

frankensteinsilhouette.jpg


All the while, repeating: Trump bad, Hillary good. Trump bad, Hillary good. Russians bad. Hillary good.

So done.
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andreboba said:
Trump is the GOP candidate for POTUS because the right wing has been feeding their base nothing but resentment, paranoia and hate since Obama was elected to office, until any establishment Republican candidate had no chance of winning the primaries.
When all politicians are scum, you end up with someone like Donald.
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The Dark King said:
Word
When the GOP's mantra has been government stinks for nearly a decade is it really a shock that their base picked an outsider?
These conspiracy stories are so void of facts I don't get how anyone clings to them. I get not liking her but saying she rigged the Republican primaries? Come the fuck on
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Paniro187 said:
Totally agree with highlighted
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Frankenstein's monster has taken over the castle and they can't do anything but sit back and watch it tear everything up. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so damn sad.
 
Paniro187 said:
Immigration - he won't do a damn thing.
Creating jobs- won't do a damn thing
Bring back outsourced jobs-wont do a damn thing

Not much else really
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I think immigration reform is an important issue that whoever becomes president will need to address. Very complicated issue, I for one would like to see the guest worker program fixed and expanded...

https://www.farmworkerjustice.org/advocacy-and-programs/guestworker-programs

Job creation/bring back outsourced jobs, whoever wins needs to build on the progress that President Obama has made (depending on one's political leanings, the President is either one of the best job creators ever, or the one of the most anemic, per the links below).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...dent-for-job-creation/?utm_term=.f41cfd2d858a

http://ijr.com/2014/09/175800-obamas-economic-performance-outshining-reagans/
 
Bookworm616 said:
Bliss, I don't even know why you bother. Hillary is innocent and a wonderful role model for people everywhere, according to everyone here.

Or it's: we know she's corrupt...but TRUMP!!!!

You won't change any minds. They won't change yours.

You know.

I know.

Her supporters gleefully choose to turn a blind eye.

This is how I envision Hillary supporters now:

frankensteinsilhouette.jpg


All the while, repeating: Trump bad, Hillary good. Trump bad, Hillary good. Russians bad. Hillary good.

So done.
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Yeah. You definitely summed it up. Reminds me of this meme..

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It's tragic.
 
Bliss said:
Yeah. You definitely summed it up. Reminds me of this meme..

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It's tragic.
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Reminds me of this article:

On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton is the nominee, bringing with her a train-car’s worth of baggage. But the Republican candidate is at least as saddled with controversy as Clinton is—and while many of the Clinton cases involve suspicion and shadowy links, many of Trump’s are fully documented in court cases and legal proceedings.

The breadth of Trump’s controversies is truly yuge, ranging from allegations of mafia ties to unscrupulous business dealings, and from racial discrimination to alleged marital rape. They stretch over more than four decades, from the mid-1970s to the present day. To catalogue the full sweep of allegations would require thousands of words and lump together the trivial with the truly scandalous. Including business deals that have simply failed, without any hint of impropriety, would require thousands more. This is a snapshot of some of the most interesting and largest of those scandals.
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That may take a while to read through because unlike internet memes, this article actually has links to support the claims that it makes.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/donald-trump-scandals/474726/
 
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