Random Political comments...

Yeah l think the mob was the bigger face in the 50's, l didn't know Hispanic gangs had any real show of force then. Interesting.

By far the most prominent and rutheless in Chicago today is Central America's MS-13 (Mara Salvatrucha).

Btw, check out their gang allies...
Sureños, Sinaloa Cartel, Gulf Cartel, La Familia Michoacana, Mexican Mafia, Yakuza and Los Zetas.

Their rivals in the U.S:
18th Street gang, Juarez Cartel, Los Negros, Sombra Negra, Tijuana Cartel, Beltrán-Leyva Cartel, The Rascals, the Bloods, the Crips, Hoover Criminals, and the Latin Kings.

Peep their criminal gang activity...
Drug trafficking, robbery, Larceny, contract killing, human trafficking, extortion, illegal immigration, murder, money laundering, witness tampering, prostitution, racketeering, battery, kidnapping, people smuggling, and arms trafficking.

Crikey!

 

I couldn't care less if people cut. It is what it is. If it keeps me from getting something then I'll move on to the next item on my agenda. I get your point but I still don't buy into your new found belief.

 

The 1 percent want us to think illegal immigrants are the ones suppressing average worker salaries, or making it harder to get into college, or more difficult for 'legal' Americans to receive affordable medical care.

Again, that's the propaganda.

There's only one group of powerful and uber rich Americans who are suppressing worker wages throughout all industries and preventing us from having a single payer healthcare system.

I'm not in favor of illegal immigration, but at the same time I do think we should make it easier for Latin and South American immigrants to work legally in this country.

When you really break it down and see how so many Latin American countries have broken or failing economies, then understand how U.S. foreign policy for over 70 years has contributed to the desperate economic situation we see there today, I'm not surprised why many Latinos want to come here, legally and illegally.

Look at China and see how much money they've invested in Africa since the 1990s and the business and political ties they've forged on the continent, a continent the United States has systematically ignored.

45% of China's foreign aid is spent on Africa. China now has a cooperative foothold on the African continent that rivals the reach and expanse of the British Empire from the 1800s until the mid 20th century.

We should have been doing the same thing with Latin America, promoting regional industries, economic partnerships and stable democratic governments.
We should have formed a NATO style group with Latin America to secure political stability.

The relationship between North AMerica and Latin America/South America should be like the EU, if you have a visa and a work permit you should be free to travel and live wherever you want.

That's why so many Americans are soft on Latino illegal immigration, because many of them are gainfully employed.

 

So you advocate for people who hate black people? Are you high?
Why do our people constantly cape for people who would spit on us if the roles were reversed.

 

I think most African-Americans don't understand how White Latinos marginalize/shit on Afro-Latinos in their own foreign countries. Most AAs don't even know what a Afro-Latino is. Most people only think of Mestizos or White Latinos when they think about Latinos.

 

I'm all for the policies that truly benefit the masses, and in my opinion, the ACA with all of it's faults definitely benefited the masses. That said... Now that an ACA repeal is a very real possibility, and all of the Trumpsters (especially those who "wanted a change") are now aware the the the ACA (that was working many for them) is actually "Obamacare" (that they hate so much). Now, they're going into a panic with sob stories and worries, and I'm not feeling sympathetic as this is what they voted for. Hate is learned, and the con man got them on board with his own hate.

 

I have a Black Latino aunt who's from Guyana(borders Venezuela) who when I was a kid only spoke Spanish. Do any of you know any Hispanic immigrants socially?? And I don't just mean from Mexico, Cubans or Puerto Ricans.
I could make the argument that every society and culture in the world has a negative opinion towards Black folk. So what's the solution?
To disengage, we become an insulated ethnic group in America and only stay in our own communities, or do we engage??

Maybe it's different in the DMV, but it's not uncommon to see mixed American Black and Latino/Latina couples, and I don't mean 'White' hispanics either.
In fact, I'd say the majority of Latino immigrants I see daily are tan to brown skinned and aren't walking around like they're better than anyone.

I've got a hispanic dude who owns his own landscaping company who comes by every comes by every spring and summer twice a month to cut my mother's lawn, rake her leaves and pick up the crap she throws out behind the house. He always talks to her, has a smile on his face and does the job even when she DOESN'T pay him(!!). (He calls me and I get him his money.lol)
My mother is the only Black person who lives in her neighborhood for several blocks too, and yet this Hispanic guy doesn't treat her funny.

THe thing about America is, we AREN'T the home countries where these people come from. Wherever you're from, you have to figure out what this country is about and what it means for you to be an American.

Writing off Latinos in general because many come from countries that are prejudiced against Blacks in general IMO just isn't a good philosophy or strategy for us.

I understand that Cali is a little different, in that you have entrenched Hispanic communities and that gang rivalries have driven a wedge between these groups.
However, the hispanic community in the DMV for the most part is still new and growing.
By engaging with them, I feel like I and everyone who lives in the DMV has a chance to shape how that community integrates with Blacks and America.

The attitude some of you have, I personally wouldn't deal with anyone except other Black people, because everyone 'hates' us.

There's a bridge to built between Blacks and the Hispanic community, and you can see it in how we both vote. I remember back in the day there was this fear that a growing influx of Latino immigrants would become a voting block that nullified the Black Democratic vote.
Then something strange happened on the way to the polling booths, many White conservatives didn't want Latinos in their country.

I believe since 2000, every Democratic presidential candidate has won the majority of the Hispanic vote. In fact many Whites abandoned the Democratic party and started voting Republican because so many Blacks, Hispanics and other minorities vote Democrat.

My point is to sum up, dismissing Hispanic immigrants as a group because many of them come from countries where Blacks are marginalized and segregated IMO is a bad strategy that in the long run gets us nowhere.

IMO the model for Black and Hispanic relations in America should be NYC and not Cali.

 

Like others have said, I have no sympathy for anyone who voted for Trump and now they're about to lose their healthcare.
Most White voters opposition to the ACA was because of the race of the man who signed the legislation into law, not because they were ideologically opposed to Obamacare.
Now their bigotry has got them caught in a hole. That's life.

Instead of chanting REPEAL AND REPLACE at Trump rallies, they should have been saying if Trump and the Republicans don't renew and amend the ACA, we're voting ALL of you out of office.
Maybe now poor and working class Whites will understand it's really kind of stupid to keep voting against your own best economic interests all because of racial solidarity with the 1 Percent.

 

I live in NY and I've said this before we have great relationships with Puerto Rican Dominicans Cubans (most times some are really on that colorism shit hard) Mexicans etc
Blacks and Hispanics are in the same neighborhoods with very little segregation hell one of my boys learned Spanish because he dated a Dominican girl for a few years. But again that's the left wing propaganda making illegal immigration the same as legal immigrants. Also the right boiling down all Hispanics down to being Mexican so they're all the same. So thinking goes from all Hispanics are Mexicans all Mexicans are illegal all illegals are taking your jobs. It shouldn't be shameful to want fairness or to want a rule of law that protects the people who are already here and followed the rules to attain citizenship.
Also let me be clear I'm not saying forget illegal Mexicans, what I am saying is it makes no sense to stand with people who would never stand with me. I really implore you to check out some YouTube comments like from when George Lopez had his talk show. My first glimpse was when he had the Kardashians on and asked them "but why blacks I mean really why black guys". The comments were eye opening as hell then I started to research what it's like to be black in Mexico.
I'm not gonna waste my resources on people conditioned to hate me.

 

Well, first of all we're not in Mexico.
Secondly, most people tend to have a negative, stereotypical view of Black people.

Also, most of the illegals coming from South of the border aren't Mexican anymore. They're from Nicaragua, El Salvador, Venezuela, etc.

George Lopez IMO is probably a casual racist, meaning he's probably comfortable being around us socially or in professional situations, but deep down he's got a little bit of a problem with Black people.
Part of that if I can put on my psychoanalysis hat on is because George Lopez is a DARK skinned Mexican, almost to the point if you didn't know he was Mexican you might think he had a Black parent.


I know George must have caught hell being teased all the time because of how dark he was and now I think he's dealing with some self hatred, and also just reflecting some of the racism within his community.

But I don't know of ANY racial or ethnic group I couldn't say the same thing about in America when it comes to their opinion about Black people.
Yes there are more people who are tolerant of BM/non-BF relationships, but very few are honestly, openly accepting of them.

I understand if Black folk aren't quite ready to march in step with Hispanics on immigration, I just feel if possible we should try to build cultural coalitions.
There are many Latinos who recognize we share many of the same issues we're trying to address through the political process.

 

Looking at this stat really pisses me off.
Bernie bots are the reason HRC lost. No other reason.
Protest votes in a two party system for a third party that only tries to be relevant during presidential elections is a wasted vote.

Total number of Americans eligible to vote 218,959,000
Total number of Americans registered to vote 146,311,000
Total votes for Donald Trump (R) 62,979,636
Total votes for Hillary Clinton (D) 65,844,610
Gary Johnson (L) 4,360,873
Dr Jill Stein (G) 1,357,013
Evan McMullin (I) 747,993
Write-ins 545,048
Other 437,963

 

Word? So it had nothing to do with the DNC cheating to help her win ie Donna Brazil or her complete inability to actually inspire people. Let's not forget she didn't go to places like Wiscosin get their vote she assumed she had it in the bag. She didn't address their concerns and quite frankly she didn't push for progressive ideas until she it was working with the Bernie crowd. She came off as phony and people were sick to their damn stomach of phony politicians. It's like these people are literally allergic to the damn truth. It was 100 percent on HRC not anyone else.
If you can't get people from areas where they voted for Obama then there's something wrong with you as a candidate when they switch to Trump in mass

 

You re right we aren't in Mexico and I'm not keen about making here like there.
Secondly yeah other groups may not like us either but we aren't being shamed for not standing up for those people are we.
If they want their rights let them sweat and bleed for it just like the morenos they love to look down on

 

Word!!!! white & mestizo Hispanics are amongst the most racist (against blacks) up there with Asians when it comes to people of color. There is no black-brown-yellow coalition.

What's so funny about mestizos, is that Spanish (from Spain) hate them.

 

Native Americans maybe?

 

Exactly. People who are ugly inside are just that. Nothing you can do will change them. Focus your time and effort on people that appreciate you. Otherwise you are cheating them.

lol at feeling sorry for racist people when they experience racism.

 

An alternative view...

20 IDEAS TO... CURE AMERICA'S HEALTH CARE CRISIS

By: Daniel Horowitz | March 08, 2017

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt. (F, 16%) is famous for declaring health care a right. He is actually correct if we were to tweak his statement to read, “free market health care is a natural right.” Yes, we the people have a right to finally create a free market health care system that will do to the medical field what Uber, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Walmart, FedEx, and UPS have all done to their respective industries.

Ever wonder why heart surgery costs $106,000 in America but only $1,583 in India? Do you find the lack of an “Uber style revolution” in health care absurd?
In so many ways, health care and health insurance – and no, the two are not the same – have missed the great technological revolution. The reason? Big, bad government.

It’s time to bust apart the regulatory state that enriches the big government-big business cartel. And we can start with these 20 ideas on a state and federal level that kick government to the curb and return the power to consumers, entrepreneurs, and health care providers:

Health care reforms

1. End the medical malpractice boondoggle
2. Allow hospitals to turn away non-urgent illegal aliens
3. Offer a tax deduction for those providing health care to indigents
4. Reform FDA approval process … big time
5. Make more drugs available over the counter
6. Stop boxing out specialty hospitals with burdensome certifications
7. Expand who can deliver care so health providers have to compete for the customer
8. Promote telemedicine and other modern delivery systems
9. Break the AMA monopoly on medicine and prevention of for-profit healthcare
10. Repeal the HIPAA regulatory leviathan
11. Encourage health care providers to post prices online

Health insurance reforms

1. Tear down regulations
2. Promote health status insurance to deal with pre-existing conditions
3. Stop socially engineering employer-based insurance through the tax code and treat it the same as individual plans
4. Allow unlimited Health Savings Account spending
5. Let consumers and employers purchase health insurance plans across state lines
6. Permit individuals to pool together for group insurance
7. Change antitrust laws so Big Pharma’s stranglehold on competition is destroyed
8. Make Medicaid work with the market, not destroy it
9. Allow affluent seniors to opt out of Medicare
10. To read his breakdiwn... Go to https://www.conservativereview.com/...bamacare-and-cure-americas-health-care-crisis

 

Just wanted to expound on the tactic used to enter, by the criminal element..

Deported Italian Mobster Caught Sneaking Across U.S.-Mexico Border
by ILDEFONSO ORTIZ 29 Jan 2017


The arrest took place near the border city of Nogales, Arizona, where U.S. Border Patrol agents arrested Salvatore Marciante as he tried to sneak into the country. After the arrest, agents were able to search Marciante’s criminal history and confirmed that he had been a permanent legal resident who had been living in New York until his convictions in 1995, when he lost his legal status. After serving several years in U.S. prison he was deported to Italy.

According to federal court records obtained...Marciante is a citizen of Italy who had traveled to Mexico in order to enter the country through Nogales, Arizona. Marciante had been deported on September 1, 2004 from New York. Currently he is facing illegal re-entry charges in the federal courthouse in Tucson, Arizona.

Marciante was originally named in a multi-count indictment filed in 1994 accusing him and 12 other members of the Italian mafia of distributing and trafficking narcotics in New York. Many of the documents listed in the court proceedings remain sealed by the court. Available court documents revealed that federal agents arrested Marciante on September 15, 1994, and on October 6, 1994, and a federal judge set his bond at $1 million.

While in prison, Marciante and several other members of the same group were further charged in a separate indictment in connection with a series of armed robberies targeting various restaurants in New York. The indictment was filed in June 1999, while Marciante was already in prison for the drug charge. For unknown reasons, the criminal indictment and many of the court documents remain sealed by the court.

By April 2000, Marciante pleaded guilty to various counts in connection with the charge of interference of commerce by violence in connection with the robberies. For that case, Marciante was sentenced to serve more than five years in prison; however the prison term was set to run concurrent with the previous case.

 

Also TDK ..
MEXICAN OFFICIAL THREATENS U.S. WITH 'CHAOS'
Will southern neighbor stop cooperating over drug cartels?
Published: 01/31/2017 at 6:45 PM

Excerpt...
WND reported last week the state of Texas officially warned that ISIS terrorists were operating on its border with Mexico.

Its Texas Public Safety Threat Overview states, “We are especially concerned about the potential for terrorist infiltration across the U.S.-Mexico border, particularly as foreign terrorist fighters depart Syria and Iraq and enter global migration flows.”

And it’s not just those who sneak in that are of concern.

“We are concerned about the challenges associated with the security vetting of Syrian war refugees or asylum seekers who are resettled in Texas – namely, that derogatory security information about individuals is inaccessible or nonexistent. We see a potential that these challenges may leave the state exposed to extremist actors who pose as authentic refugees, and who are determined to later commit violent acts,” the state explains.

A report at the Investigative Project on Terrorism noted an extra level for concern because “at least 13 aspiring terrorists have tried to cross into Mexico, or considered trying, since 2012.”

These are people who have been radicalized and want to travel overseas to join terrorist organizations but cannot travel by air because they are on the no-fly list.

Judicial Watch reported as early as April 2015 that ISIS had established a training camp a few miles from El Paso, Texas, in an area known as “Anapra” just west of Ciudad Juárez in the Mexican state of Chihuahua.

According to the JW report, cartel informants told law enforcement that “they are only waiting for the order and the times to carry out a simultaneous attack in the different ports of entry or cities of the United States of America.”

Drug cartels also have a working “agreement” with Islamic terrorists, according to a high-ranking Mexican police administrator, who told JW that men from the Middle East arrive regularly into the country to train jihadists.

Judicial Watch on Tuesday noted the Texas report and said the southern border “has become a hotbed of Islamic terrorism in recent years and Judicial Watch has exposed the national security disaster as part of an ongoing investigation into the dangerously porous region.”

Former U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo writes in his “In Mortal Danger” how those in America illegally are demanding the rights granted to citizens.




Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2017/01/mexican-official-threatens-u-s-with-chaos/#A3RqoTo4ktWKbCVh.99ALSO...