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False equilavent

buglerroller said:
The common misconception is that people with a record are horrible people...

Are you telling me you would pass up a man who loves you and your daughter as his own, makes six figures a year and your family loves him.... because he had a DUI once?

Not all ex-cons are repeat offenders, there are a good number of people with records who used their experience to change their life around and do quite well for themselves.

Saying you wouldn't date someone with a record is like a man saying he wont date anyone with a pants size of 7+.
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Bliss said:
One is personal preference, the other is personal safety.

Anyway in this case, he was jailed for attempted murder, he had beaten a man almost to death.
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To each their own...

All I am saying is, to not date someone because they were arrested or jailed is ludicrous IMHO.

There are people who have been jailed/arrested for unpaid parking tickets, its not right to lump those types of people in with those who were jailed for attempted murder or other heinous crimes.
 
goodlove said:
False equilavent
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Bliss said:
One is personal preference, the other is personal safety.

Anyway in this case, he was jailed for attempted murder, he had beaten a man almost to death.
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They are both correct. And I didn't realize he was jailed for attempted murder. I just scanned the article and saw that he had run-ins with the law (and in and out of jail) for assault dating back to 1988. I didn't look any further.

buglerroller said:
The common misconception is that people with a record are horrible people...

Are you telling me you would pass up a man who loves you and your daughter as his own, makes six figures a year and your family loves him.... because he had a DUI once?

Not all ex-cons are repeat offenders, there are a good number of people with records who used their experience to change their life around and do quite well for themselves.

Saying you wouldn't date someone with a record is like a man saying he wont date any woman with a pants size of 7+.
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As with any rule, there are exceptions.

If a man my age got a DUI within the last 10-15 years, then no I would not date him.

DUIs aren't always just "mistakes". They speak to a deeper level - on the low end of the level, it speaks to a person's maturity, on the high end of the level, it speaks to a possible addiction.

Neither of those, nor anything in between, are anything I'm interested in bringing into my life.

But, if a man has been arrested/charged/jailed for something more serious like assault, etc, then no, I don't care if he claims he's been rehabilitated, that's something I would not want to take a chance on.
 
buglerroller said:
To each their own...

All I am saying is, to not date someone because they were arrested or jailed is ludicrous IMHO.

There are people who have been jailed/arrested for unpaid parking tickets, its not right to lump those types of people in with those who were jailed for attempted murder or other heinous crimes.
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I don't disagree with you and have dated a non-violent felon who was an absolute sweetheart.

I think the gravity of the record is probably the issue here.
 
Bliss said:
I don't disagree with you and have dated a non-violent felon who was an absolute sweetheart.

I think the gravity of the record is probably the issue here.
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For the most part, yes.

But even like drug possession arrests, I would more than likely steer clear of men who have those, too. Again, distant past arrests wouldn't be as bad.

I grew up with a brother who caused my family so much stress and grief with his drug addiction and subsequent multiple arrests and jail time that I have zero desire to EVER revisit that kind of drama in my life.
 
Bookworm616 said:
As with any rule, there are exceptions.

If a man my age got a DUI within the last 10-15 years, then no I would not date him.

DUIs aren't always just "mistakes". They speak to a deeper level - on the low end of the level, it speaks to a person's maturity, on the high end of the level, it speaks to a possible addiction.

Neither of those, nor anything in between, are anything I'm interested in bringing into my life.

But, if a man has been arrested/charged/jailed for something more serious like assault, etc, then no, I don't care if he claims he's been rehabilitated, that's something I would not want to take a chance on.
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Got it! I hope you don't think I was bashing you or your beliefs.

I just wanted to share that not all ex-cons are a like.

Bliss said:
I don't disagree with you and have dated a non-violent felon who was an absolute sweetheart.

I think the gravity of the record is probably the issue here.
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I agree with you on this.

With that said, people should be open to entertaining a healthy relationship with anyone, no matter the body size or record. People are people, people make mistakes, no one is perfect.

I have this thing about women with small feet in high heels, I used to say I'd never date a woman who didn't wear heels. I also used to say I wouldn't date a woman with a child. My wife doesn't like heels, she will wear the shit out of some wedges and I have a step daughter I love just as much as my own daughters. I know heels and a child dont compare to dating someone with a violent past... IMHO, if people stopped putting up the walls about who they wont date, they might actually not be single.
 
Bookworm616 said:
For the most part, yes.

But even like drug possession arrests, I would more than likely steer clear of men who have those, too. Again, distant past arrests wouldn't be as bad.

I grew up with a brother who caused my family so much stress and grief with his drug addiction and subsequent multiple arrests and jail time that I have zero desire to EVER revisit that kind of drama in my life.
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I completely understand your apprehension, Bookie. You're entitled to set any boundaries you feel are required to make for a harmonious relationship.
 
buglerroller said:
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I agree with you on this.

With that said, people should be open to entertaining a healthy relationship with anyone, no matter the body size or record. People are people, people make mistakes, no one is perfect.

I have this thing about women with small feet in high heels, I used to say I'd never date a woman who didn't wear heels. I also used to say I wouldn't date a woman with a child. My wife doesn't like heels, she will wear the shit out of some wedges and I have a step daughter I love just as much as my own daughters. I know heels and a child dont compare to dating someone with a violent past... IMHO, if people stopped putting up the walls about who they wont date, they might actually not be single.
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No offense, but your comparison analogy (heels vs a record) are worlds apart. Perhaps beause you're a big guy and feel less threatened by people ...might be factoring in as to why you're less able to identify with a single mother for example, who must vett any new man in her life.
 
Bliss said:
No offense, but your comparison analogy (heels vs a record) are worlds apart. Perhaps beause you're a big guy and feel less threatened by people ...might be factoring in as to why you're less able to identify with a single mother for example, who must vett any new man in her life.
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Never thought of it that way... men are from mars and women are from venus right?
 
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Sunk in 1940, by the US navy, off the coast of Aruba was the World War 2 German war ship "The Antillia"


.......Well on my vacation cruise stop last week in Aruba at the star spot on the map


......I decided to swim down 30 feet and make contact with the sunken Antillia..

......It was thrilling but EERRRIEEEE......
 
So awesome, Arch! I would totally love to do something so cool but I can imagine how it could be creepy. Great story and cool photo!
 
Archman said:
Sunk in 1940, by the US navy, off the coast of Aruba was the World War 2 German war ship "The Antillia"


.......Well on my vacation cruise stop last week in Aruba at the star spot on the map


......I decided to swim down 30 feet and make contact with the sunken Antillia..

......It was thrilling but EERRRIEEEE......
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Nice!
 
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