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orejon4 said:
I struggle to see why anyone who opposes something doesn't simply decide not to do it and allow others to choose for themselves?
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That's all I'm getting at. I realize my beliefs are waaaay out there to some people. I believe all drugs should be legalized, I believe prostitution should be legalized, I believe gay marriage should be legalized, I believe the borders should be open, I am pro-choice, I am for euthanasia.

In a nutshell, I feel that adults should be able to make decisions for themselves with no regard to the moral influence of others. However, everybody should be held liable to the consequences of their decisions when they directly impact and especially endanger others. If one person as an individual does not want to do something, then by all means don't. It takes a really arrogant person to think their way is right for everybody.

PS: Welcome back!
 
orejon4 said:
I struggle to see why anyone who opposes something doesn't simply decide not to do it and allow others to choose for themselves?
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Don't struggle with seeing anything Oregon. ..No one is disallowing your friend from smoking his herb .....he said because amendment 2 failed he now hates the state. ....Just making a play on his words. ..
 
Archman said:
Don't struggle with seeing anything Oregon. ..No one is disallowing your friend from smoking his herb .....he said because amendment 2 failed he now hates the state. ....Just making a play on his words. ..
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You obviously do not know what a play on words is.
 
pettyofficerj said:
Non violent offenders should face an entirely different system, period

This one size fits all approach to LAW is beyond belief in this day and age



That would be too much like right

Lots of people oppose drinking and cigs, so they simply refrain from doing them

It's called personal responsibility

They don't need laws to tell them what not to do
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Fixed it ain't got shit to do with justice fam
 
Archman said:
My brother, I understand the frustration. ....l say we go and roll a blunt for now .....and then try to get it back on the ballot in 2 years. ....
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I don't smoke blunts. I vape, for the same reason that I prefer my coffee cold brewed.

All jokes aside, are you avoiding the question because you cannot provide a reasonable answer? Admitting to that in itself would be accepted as a reasonable answer.
 
The Dark King said:
Because they struggle with their own beliefs or don't truly believe. Do you see anyone screaming at the top of their lungs that water is wet? Nope it stands on its own and doesn't need defending.


Btw welcome back fam. Long time no post.
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Thanks, TDK. That last year of law school and those school-induced deflated pockets have been tying me up lately.

pettyofficerj said:
Non violent offenders should face an entirely different system, period

This one size fits all approach to criminal justice is beyond belief in this day and age

That would be too much like right

Lots of people oppose drinking and cigs, so they simply refrain from doing them

It's called personal responsibility

They don't need laws to tell them what not to do
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I thought that's what conservatives were always on about, anyway.

jaisee said:
That's all I'm getting at. I realize my beliefs are waaaay out there to some people. I believe all drugs should be legalized, I believe prostitution should be legalized, I believe gay marriage should be legalized, I believe the borders should be open, I am pro-choice, I am for euthanasia.

In a nutshell, I feel that adults should be able to make decisions for themselves with no regard to the moral influence of others. However, everybody should be held liable to the consequences of their decisions when they directly impact and especially endanger others. If one person as an individual does not want to do something, then by all means don't. It takes a really arrogant person to think their way is right for everybody.

PS: Welcome back!
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Those views aren't way out at all. I'm with you on all of those positions. Thanks!
 
pettyofficerj said:
Grats on law school, young brotha

Some strong, positive news
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Young? Hahaha, don't make me laugh. I've got you beat by a year or two, at least. Well, let's wait until I actually get out, lol. And then there's that small matter of the bar exam next summer, hahaha.
 
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orejon4 said:
Well, let's wait until I actually get out, lol. And then there's that small matter of the bar exam next summer, hahaha.
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Still

Making the effort to apply yourself in a positive manner is good news...even if that loan debt says otherwise :smt095

I looked at the costs of some schools......so I can imagine u have a few organs and a testicle ur willing to sell
 
pettyofficerj said:
Still

Making the effort to apply yourself in a positive manner is good news...even if that loan debt says otherwise :smt095

I looked at the costs of some schools......so I can imagine u have a few organs and a testicle ur willing to sell
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Now if I can just find an African oil millionaire in need of a kidney, lol.
 
Sad sad sad day for Americans
We just don't fucking learn. How short are our memories. Allowing Republicans to "lead" this country is what got us in trouble in the first place. Letting these people win means the middle class is fucking gone never to return again. I hope the conservatives will be happy now that all we're going to get are bills strict austerity measures with even more tax cuts for the wealthy while the poor just starve out of existence. I need out of this land of fucking idiots.
And yes I voted.
 
The Dark King said:
Sad sad sad day for Americans
We just don't fucking learn. How short are our memories. Allowing Republicans to "lead" this country is what got us in trouble in the first place. Letting these people win means the middle class is fucking gone never to return again. I hope the conservatives will be happy now that all we're going to get are bills strict austerity measures with even more tax cuts for the wealthy while the poor just starve out of existence. I need out of this land of fucking idiots.
And yes I voted.
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You're glossing over the fact that a Democrat holds the White House and has veto power.
 
satyr said:
You're glossing over the fact that a Democrat holds the White House and has veto power.
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Which means nothing if he doesn't use it. I doubt the Democrats that are still left will actually use their fillabusters either. Democrats are usually too pussy to stand up against the Republicans. The one thing you can't take away from Republicans is they do what the fuck they want and they could care less who likes it because they know the feeble minded in this country will always vote them. Whether it be religion controlling women's bodies or gay marriage there will always be some bigoted short sighted jack ass that will side with the party who has exclusively fucked the American people over and over. So disgusted
These motherfuckers shut down the damn government just to make a point.
 
Hold your horses. Actually, very little is going to happen in Washington except more gridlock. Maybe a few bills will pass, not sure how landmark they'll be. Obama can push a few executive orders through. He's not running for anything else so has the freedom to push, but he also doesn't want to damage the Democratic brand for 2016.

Remember how right I was about 2012? I am right about this too.

The Dark King said:
Which means nothing if he doesn't use it. I doubt the Democrats that are still left will actually use their fillabusters either. Democrats are usually too pussy to stand up against the Republicans. The one thing you can't take away from Republicans is they do what the fuck they want and they could care less who likes it because they know the feeble minded in this country will always vote them. Whether it be religion controlling women's bodies or gay marriage there will always be some bigoted short sighted jack ass that will side with the party who has exclusively fucked the American people over and over. So disgusted
These motherfuckers shut down the damn government just to make a point.
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satyr said:
Hold your horses. Actually, very little is going to happen in Washington except more gridlock. Maybe a few bills will pass, not sure how landmark they'll be. Obama can push a few executive orders through. He's not running for anything else so has the freedom to push, but he also doesn't want to damage the Democratic brand for 2016.

Remember how right I was about 2012? I am right about this too.
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Hope you're right this time because I think the first thing they will do is push for war on top of pushing every bill possible to expand tax exemptions for the wealthy which will be felt by the poor
 
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