Random Conversation 2.0

[The Dark King]

I don't have a problem with teenagers who want to have sex; that's natural and thanks to hormones and puberty it's pretty much unavoidable. My problem is with adults who take advantage of kids who want to have sex.

But there in lies the hypocrisy as if it to say at 16 I as a male can't determine for myself if I want to have sex with two women is ridiculous. We play this game to simplify something that doesn't need to be simplified. Circumstances and context matter. Critical thinking matters. A young man engaging in a threesome with two willing women is not abuse if he isn't coerced. It's incredibly hard to see him as a child when if he robbed and killed someone he'd be an adult. We are saying in one context despite capacity and choices your childhood is determined by age but in another breath saying its actions. Which is it?

 

[pettyofficerj]

But there in lies the hypocrisy as if it to say at 16 I as a male can't determine for myself if I want to have sex with two women is ridiculous. We play this game to simplify something that doesn't need to be simplified. Circumstances and context matter. Critical thinking matters. A young man engaging in a threesome with two willing women is not abuse if he isn't coerced. It's incredibly hard to see him as a child when if he robbed and killed someone he'd be an adult. We are saying in one context despite capacity and choices your childhood is determined by age but in another breath saying its actions. Which is it?

Well got damn

 

[orejon4]

It is a double standard, to be sure, but it's also important to note that a lot of these concerns are relative. The idea of a 16 year old as a child is a modern conception. 100 years ago he was an adult and expected to go out and establish himself in the world at that age. Even today in many parts of the world, fathers regularly take their sons to brothels to initiate their sons' sex lives with experienced prostitutes and it is considered natural.

I doubt he was taken advantage of in the molestation/rape sense with any use of force or even psychological manipulation. If they took advantage of anything, it was his eagerness to have sex generally. The more problematic part of this is the undoubtedly unbalanced mindset of the teachers themselves for being so psychologically needy that they need the attention of an adolescent to validate their lives. It seems like many of these attractive female teachers have these frustrated/unfulfilling marriages and extreme need for attention and find the young man's attentions to be some sort of adrenaline rush.

More than their age, I find the fact that they are his teachers to be more troubling. They (supposedly) have the maturity to understand the law and the conflicts of interest caused by sexual relationships with people you are supposed to be supervising/training/instructing. The power dynamic created by that alone is exploitative.

 

[FRESH]

Our most fertile years start in our teens, but yet we are not considered adults, that's not right. We are adult enough to start driving cars at 16, vote about whom shapes our next 4-8 years of political & socio-economic life at, when some of us were still in high school for a bit, but we can't have consensual sex with an adult, that's some BS. I always thought that whole situation was backwards.

 

[pettyofficerj]

Our most fertile years start in our teens, but yet we are not considered adults, that's not right. We are adult enough to start driving cars at 16, vote about whom shapes our next 4-8 years of political & socio-economic life, but can't have consensual sex with an adult, that's some BS. I always thought that whole situation was backwards.

Age is just a number

Like Jaisee mentioned, just because someone turns 18 doesn't mean they're suddenly capable of making decisions

Why not make it some other arbitrary number, like 30 or 40

 

[Bookworm616]

The first comment on this article at Gawker sums up my feelings perfectly:



And this goes double for the 32-year old, who is literally twice that kid's age.

Agree 100%.

There are also plenty of 16-year old girls who really want to have sex and who do have sex and enjor\y, but that doesn't mean that it's a good idea. And it damn sure doesn't mean that a teacher-any teacher-has any business having sex with them no matter how badly the child wants it (and no matter how old/mature/smart a 16-year old thinks they are, they're still children).

That's the entire rationale behind statutory rape laws: children aren't capable of giving consent to have sex, regardless of gender. Any adult who takes advantage of a child sexually should be treated like the predators that they are, regardless of gender. Teenage boys are no smarter or more sophisticated than teenage girls are.

I don't have a problem with teenagers who want to have sex; that's natural and thanks to hormones and puberty it's pretty much unavoidable. My problem is with adults who take advantage of kids who want to have sex.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Until I was able to take the time to read all of these comments, I only saw a comment here or there and thought, good God, what is wrong with these guys??

Even if the kid was 2 years older, if he was still in school, then it's STILL a problem.

The issue is not just statutory rape, which both of these women are guilty of and should be thrown in jail, but they were TEACHERS AT HIS SCHOOL. They have a level of authority over him and are in a position to coerce sex from minors.

How is that not getting through to most of you??

I'm sorry, but these women are SEXUAL PREDATORS and deserve to see jail time.

 

[The Dark King]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Until I was able to take the time to read all of these comments, I only saw a comment here or there and thought, good God, what is wrong with these guys??

Even if the kid was 2 years older, if he was still in school, then it's STILL a problem.

The issue is not just statutory rape, which both of these women are guilty of and should be thrown in jail, but they were TEACHERS AT HIS SCHOOL. They have a level of authority over him and are in a position to coerce sex from minors.

How is that not getting through to most of you??

I'm sorry, but these women are SEXUAL PREDATORS and deserve to see jail time.

You obviously didn't read the comments because that was said. No one is arguing that authority figures shouldn't have sex with subordinates. The argument being made is about the age and about agency as well as consent. Men and women are different.

 

[Bookworm616]

You obviously didn't read the comments because that was said. No one is arguing that authority figures shouldn't have sex with subordinates. The argument being made is about the age and about agency as well as consent. Men and women are different.

I did read the comments.

Have you seen the movie "Compliance"? It's based on a series of true stories and it makes you think about how assumed and real authority can make you do things you wouldn't have done otherwise.

High school kids cannot give sexual consent to an adult. By definition, the adult has authority over them, whether they want to believe it or not.

And don't give me the 100 years ago argument. That no longer applies.

 

[Bookworm616]

I did read the comments.

Have you seen the movie "Compliance"? It's based on a series of true stories and it makes you think about how assumed and real authority can make you do things you wouldn't have done otherwise.

High school kids cannot give sexual consent to an adult. By definition, the adult has authority over them, whether they want to believe it or not.

And don't give me the 100 years ago argument. That no longer applies.

And WTF are these women doing having a threesome with a 16 year old anyway??

They should have found themselves a college kid, FFS.

 

[The Dark King]

I did read the comments.

Have you seen the movie "Compliance"? It's based on a series of true stories and it makes you think about how assumed and real authority can make you do things you wouldn't have done otherwise.

High school kids cannot give sexual consent to an adult. By definition, the adult has authority over them, whether they want to believe it or not.

And don't give me the 100 years ago argument. That no longer applies.

I did and that was totally different it was an alleged cop giving orders. This kid was bragging about it which is why it got out, people aren't generally gleeful about being victims. And he's a teenage boy he most certainly would have done the three way otherwise hencwe the bragging. Yes they definitely did behave unethically and shouldn't be allowed to teach anymore but it doesn't feel like a criminal act despite it being illegal. And forget 100 years ago, if he got drunk and killed people with his car his youthful innocence wouldn't be at play so why in an obvious conceptual situation where has thee physical power to stop it if he wants to does it apply?
If he were 18 and in his would it be ok? Were any of us that much different at 18 compared to 16?
The laws just seem weird

 

[The Dark King]

And WTF are these women doing having a threesome with a 16 year old anyway??

They should have found themselves a college kid, FFS.

Agreed
Pure craziness

 

[fantasyfangrl]

Agreed
Pure craziness

^^This!!

 

[goodlove]

I did and that was totally different it was an alleged cop giving orders. This kid was bragging about it which is why it got out, people aren't generally gleeful about being victims. And he's a teenage boy he most certainly would have done the three way otherwise hencwe the bragging. Yes they definitely did behave unethically and shouldn't be allowed to teach anymore but it doesn't feel like a criminal act despite it being illegal. And forget 100 years ago, if he got drunk and killed people with his car his youthful innocence wouldn't be at play so why in an obvious conceptual situation where has thee physical power to stop it if he wants to does it apply?
If he were 18 and in his would it be ok? Were any of us that much different at 18 compared to 16?
The laws just seem weird

Im sure its been said but let the teachers been men and it was a 16 yr old gurl

 

[pettyofficerj]

Im sure its been said but let the teachers been men and it was a 16 yr old gurl

But that's not the case now is it

You know males are expected to conquer as much pussy as they can and be embraced as heroes, don't even trip

 

[goodlove]

But that's not the case now is it

You know males are expected to conquer as much pussy as they can and be embraced as heroes, don't even trip

Sssshh

You and i know that hes a dumb ass for running off at the mouth

 

[pettyofficerj]

Sssshh

You and i know that hes a dumb ass for running off at the mouth

When I was 18 in college, I had a few 'older' professors and counselors I wanted to nail

Ashton and Demi didn't start this whole milf shit

 

[goodlove]

When I was 18 in college, I had a few 'older' professors and counselors I wanted to nail

Ashton and Demi didn't start this whole milf shit

Lol

 

[satyr]

What's up with these black male porn stars showing up on set looking like Ashy Larry and shit? Motherfuckers look like they took a chalk bath and decided to go work right afterwards! I mean goddamn it's porn but have some standards about yours.

 

[GFunk]

What's up with these black male porn stars showing up on set looking like Ashy Larry and shit? Motherfuckers look like they took a chalk bath and decided to go work right afterwards! I mean goddamn it's porn but have some standards about yours.

BAAAAHAHAHAHA!

 

[Morning Star]

If you're not doing stand-up now, then you should be. I always want to read what you'll say next.

Always raw and uncut. :smt037:smt037

What's up with these black male porn stars showing up on set looking like Ashy Larry and shit? Motherfuckers look like they took a chalk bath and decided to go work right afterwards! I mean goddamn it's porn but have some standards about yours.