MMA Thread

BrianJ said:
You make a great point here.

I teach from time to time a "reality-based" street self defense system although I have my roots in "traditional" martial arts. As a former bounty hunter and night club bouncer I found the traditional stuff doesn't work in real life situations 90% of the time. And unfortunately I’ve been in barroom brawls fueled by idiots and their insecure egos.

Most traditional systems focus primarily on the physical, respect, mind spirit aspects but not the emotional, behavioral and psychological aspects of conflict and confrontation management. Most techniques work great in a dojo or dojang but are never truly pressure-tested and are conducted in nice, comfortable environments with nice room martial arts uniforms.

For instance, any strikes such as punches and kicks require 3 elements – grounding, distance and torque. If you are a striker, this is where the ground and grappling fighters will want to institute a single or double leg take down and why initially the Gracies were sweeping the floor literally with the strikers.

MMA/Jujitsu/Grappling has rules and while it can be brutal, it too really doesn’t mimic self defense although it is often portrayed as if it is. And if people understand the limitations both traditional and MMA style then that is cool but far too often they don’t and they don’t take into account that self defense is not a martial sport. There is an excellent article on the topic:
http://www.wimsblog.com/2012/09/ren...-self-defense-a-case-study-of-what-not-to-do/

Additionally most women, simply based on the 2nd Law of Motion (I refuse to call it “Newtons” Law of Motion) which indicates F=ma cannot generate the same amount of force as a man can – generally speaking. But, again the physical aspect of self defense is very small compared to the emotional, behavioral and psychological aspects. If you can control yourself oft time you can control the situation and get out safely without ever having to resort to any physicality. Here is a nice example of that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWfetF1jCO4



Wise men indeed.
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That's why styes like kajukenbo and krav maga are great for self defense because they were born from the streets.
 
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BrianJ said:
You make a great point here.

I teach from time to time a "reality-based" street self defense system although I have my roots in "traditional" martial arts. As a former bounty hunter and night club bouncer I found the traditional stuff doesn't work in real life situations 90% of the time. And unfortunately I’ve been in barroom brawls fueled by idiots and their insecure egos.

Most traditional systems focus primarily on the physical, respect, mind spirit aspects but not the emotional, behavioral and psychological aspects of conflict and confrontation management. Most techniques work great in a dojo or dojang but are never truly pressure-tested and are conducted in nice, comfortable environments with nice room martial arts uniforms.

For instance, any strikes such as punches and kicks require 3 elements – grounding, distance and torque. If you are a striker, this is where the ground and grappling fighters will want to institute a single or double leg take down and why initially the Gracies were sweeping the floor literally with the strikers.

MMA/Jujitsu/Grappling has rules and while it can be brutal, it too really doesn’t mimic self defense although it is often portrayed as if it is. And if people understand the limitations both traditional and MMA style then that is cool but far too often they don’t and they don’t take into account that self defense is not a martial sport. There is an excellent article on the topic:
http://www.wimsblog.com/2012/09/ren...-self-defense-a-case-study-of-what-not-to-do/

Additionally most women, simply based on the 2nd Law of Motion (I refuse to call it “Newtons” Law of Motion) which indicates F=ma cannot generate the same amount of force as a man can – generally speaking. But, again the physical aspect of self defense is very small compared to the emotional, behavioral and psychological aspects. If you can control yourself oft time you can control the situation and get out safely without ever having to resort to any physicality. Here is a nice example of that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWfetF1jCO4



Wise men indeed.
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I am not against reality based self-defense, because Marine Corps Martial Arts and Army Combatives are based on actual combat situations.

Most people do not 'study' any martial art thoroughly, because of the years of required dedication. When I state study martial arts, I mean a true martial artist studies strength and condition, anatomy and physiology, kinesiology, nutrition, medicine, first aid, psychology, philosophy, ancient weapons, and modern weapons.

In addition, a martial artist must constantly be aware of his or her surroundings and environment, and developing tactics that will address the challenges presented in his or her surroundings and environment. Musashi, Mas Oyama, Bruce Lee, and many other traditional martial artist trained outdoors and in the mountains and woods, in order to prepare to for combat in any environment. For example, the great Judoka Masahiko Kimura trained outdoors, in addition to studying Karate, boxing, and wrestling. Also, teaching a martial artist how to sprint and have proper running technique will greatly improve reality based and self-defense success.

If the martial artist is thorough in his or her training, study, and preparation, reality based or traditional martial arts are not an issue.

As I have stated, the biggest enemy is the internal enemy. Musashi, Ueshiba, Funakoshi, Aurelius, St. Paul, Buddha, and Muhammad have all stated the aforementioned. Most people want to overlook this important aspect of training, because of the lack of tangible rewards. The Samurai had a saying about being always prepared to face a thousand foes, which means confronting the internal enemies. Sun-Tzu stated the greatest victory is no battle. If the martial artist is thoroughly prepared, he or she will never have to verify the validity of his or her training. Unfortunately, too many martial artists need to satisfy his or her ego, thereby putting himself or herself in position were fighting is necessary or may be necessary.

Do not focus on a style or MMA! Focus on thorough preparation. Reality based fighting, MMA, and or traditional martial arts will do you no good, if you are going to a night club and get in a fight with twenty people, at the same time. Would it not be better to stay at home; rest your body; leave the alcohol alone, and prepare your spirit, body, and mind? Chasing pussy and or dick, while following the masses, will be a huge regret, while suffering severe butt thrashing!
 
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arbncdt1 said:
I am not against reality based self-defense, because Marine Corps Martial Arts and Army Combatives are based on actual combat situations.

Most people do not 'study' any martial art thoroughly, because of the years of required dedication. When I state study martial arts, I mean a true martial artist studies strength and condition, anatomy and physiology, kinesiology, nutrition, medicine, first aid, psychology, philosophy, ancient weapons, and modern weapons.

In addition, a martial artist must constantly be aware of his or her surroundings and environment, and developing tactics that will address the challenges presented in his or her surroundings and environment. Musashi, Mas Oyama, Bruce Lee, and many other traditional martial artist trained outdoors and in the mountains and woods, in order to prepare to for combat in any environment. For example, the great Judoka Masahiko Kimura trained outdoors, in addition to studying Karate, boxing, and wrestling. Also, teaching a martial artist how to sprint and have proper running technique will greatly improve reality based and self-defense success.

If the martial artist is through in his or her training, study, and preparation, reality based or traditional martial arts are not an issue.

As I have stated, the biggest enemy is the internal enemy. Musashi, Ueshiba, Funakoshi, Aurelius, St. Paul, Buddha, and Muhammad have all stated the aforementioned. Most people want to overlook this important aspect of training, because of the lack of tangible rewards. The Samurai had a saying about being always prepared to face a thousand foes, which means confronting the internal enemies. Sun-Tzu stated the greatest victory is no battle. If the martial artist is thoroughly prepared, he or she will never have to verify the validity of his or her training. Unfortunately, too many martial artists need to satisfy his or her ego, thereby putting himself or herself in position were fighting is necessary or may be necessary.

Do not focus on a style or MMA! Focus on thorough preparation. Reality based fighting, MMA, and or traditional martial arts will do you no good, if you are going to a night club and get in a fight with twenty people, at the same time. Would it not better to stay at home get; rest your body; leave the alcohol alone, and prepare your spirit, body, and mind? Chasing pussy and dick, while following the masses, will be a huge regret, while suffering severe butt thrashing!
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Great insight. Thanks for posting fam.
 
blackbrah said:
I don't know what's broken more; my heart or Anderson Silva's leg.
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I feel for Anderson Silva. It takes three or four years, in order to develop the dense bone tissue needed to kicks with the shin and blocking with the are arms. The same applies to the hands. Furthermore, there are techniques and situations, as to where and when to deliver bone on bone contact.

The injury to Anderson Silva is not uncommon.
 
arbncdt1 said:
I feel for Anderson Silva. It takes three or four years, in order to develop the dense bone tissue needed to kicks with the shin and blocking with the are arms. The same applies to the hands. Furthermore, there are techniques and situations, as to where and when to deliver bone on bone contact.

The injury to Anderson Silva is not uncommon.
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Yeah. I've been studying Muay Thai this year and know that but DAMN. It's only happened twice in the UFC in nearly 20 years.
 
The surgery and rehabilitation process will take A LONG TIME!

In muay-thai, the type of injury Anderson Silva suffered is not uncommon!
 
Went on a full day seminar last Saturday covering Kung Fun San Soo, BJJ, submission wrestling/take downs and MMA.

We had Frank Trigg and Kathy Long and legendary Bill Lasiter (75 years old but faster than a lot of people 1/3 his age) among others. I was a bit star struck and got to spend a few minutes talking to Kathy Long! The day ended with a few MMA and grappling (bjj rules) fights. It was awesome!
 
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FG said:
Went on a full day seminar last Saturday covering Kung Fun San Soo, BJJ, submission wrestling/take downs and MMA.

We had Frank Trigger and Kathy Long and legendary Bill Lasiter (75 years old but faster than a lot of people 1/3 his age) among others. I was a bit star struck and got to spend a few minutes talking to Kathy Long! The day ended with a few MMA and grappling (bjj rules) fights. It was awesome!
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Very cool, are you leaning towards any of these?
 
The Dark King said:
Very cool, are you leaning towards any of these?
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Still doing San Soon, but light because of my torn hamstring that is not healing. Developed piriformis syndrome on top of that so grappling and take downs are out for now: (
Otherwise they are part of the regimen as they help in San Soon. I also picked up boxing 6 mo ago so I can keep the arm work up while I heal.
 
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