orejon4
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I know Ore, just making a point. Didn't mean to put you on blast.
Not a problem at all. You make a valid point.
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I know Ore, just making a point. Didn't mean to put you on blast.
Me too but unfortunately far from the norm. We could do a whole separate thread on bw and dating. I love bw with a passion, for obvious personal reasons and just being a humanist. I see the uphill battle that absolutely NO ONE else has to deal with, I see their strength, their passion, and their beauty. I also see the result of living under someone else's standard of beauty for centuries as well as the institutional poverty that they are burdened with as a whole. Their self esteem is literally beaten down for the moment they exit the womb, everything from their hair to their skin isn't good enough, they are used by sexual objects by every fucking person with a pulse who wants to see a big ass twerk but doesn't want to look at hair wraps in the morning.
The unfortunate thing is it has created so many women with self esteem issues who have a hard time connecting through anything other than material goods and how much other people are looking at them. Not saying black men don't have issues but the one thing we do have on our sides is that a man can become attractive through merit and being physically fit, the same opportunity is not generally afforded to bw. It's such a messed up situation.
I disagree. I have a black daughter who is beautiful. Silky chocolate skin with a streamline physique. She's not beatdown mentally or influenced by living in shadows. She's raised to think with a openmind. It all begins at home. You say it's far from the norm but in my house hold our way of life is totally normal and I'm sure other households feel the same.
I disagree. I have a black daughter who is beautiful. Silky chocolate skin with a streamline physique. She's not beatdown mentally or influenced by living in shadows. She's raised to think with a openmind. It all begins at home. You say it's far from the norm but in my house hold our way of life is totally normal and I'm sure other households feel the same.
I think TDK may have been speaking about how society as a whole tries to (and succeeds in) beating down black women. You're raising your daughter differently and that's awesome. Society as a whole still needs to catch up though and start treating bw with that same respect/love.
Fam are you the exception or the rule?
And talking to a lot of black women in my life they deal with a lot of shit that we sometimes don't see or forget about at times. Watch that documentary good hair and tell me they don't start out with certain self esteem issues. Your parents can tell you one thing but if the world says something else its hard to hear fam
Thank you. You always get me :freehug:
I get what you're saying but the same can be said of people in many walks of life. I guess that's why I have always been involved in the counterculture. You have to surround yourself by alternative cultural forms that validate and reinforce who and what you value. It's hard to be immersed in a given environment and not become a part of it, or at the least be affected by it.
Fam are you the exception or the rule?
And talking to a lot of black women in my life they deal with a lot of shit that we sometimes don't see or forget about at times. Watch that documentary good hair and tell me they don't start out with certain self esteem issues. Your parents can tell you one thing but if the world says something else its hard to hear fam
I think TDK may have been speaking about how society as a whole tries to (and succeeds in) beating down black women. You're raising your daughter differently and that's awesome. Society as a whole still needs to catch up though and start treating bw with that same respect/love.
Really like who exactly?
Maybe it's that big city way of life. Here, BW could care less. I get you point but you can't apply it to all. BM have a stereo type too/beat down with, (lazy, don't work, beat there women, nasty, ect) and a "few" men I know are bitter with that. Does that apply to you?
Society doesn't value anyone who isn't a white, tall, heterosexual, Christian, capitalist, musclebound, militaristic, wealthy, male. So people find various ways to reaffirm their own humanity, be it non-whites, the gay subculture, left counterculture, the arts community, pacifists, etc. One thing I will say about people is that they're infinitely adaptable and find ways to cope with unpleasant situations. It's not an exact parallel with the problems black women face, but it's a version of coping scenarios for that same non-affirming environment.
Well that's an incredibly small and concentrated list not to mention it lacks interconnectionality. To be a Jewish heterosexual white male with average height and money is good enough. Then we go down the tiers and if we are honest especially in this country we know who is at the bottom. Give me anyone like gay or disabled and add black female to it then we're dealing with the bottom of the barrel unless we're talking about incarceration or those who don't get adopted.
No but it forms a cultural and societal narrative that follows one around that I am very sensitive to. And I really doubt that you can speak for BW anymore than ww we date can speak for bm. There are certain conversations you won't get unless you take the time to listen and hear people's experience. Do you ever listen to some of these bw and how they feel about their hair and skin complexion fam? It's heartbreaking when you think about it, from the moment they enter this world people are literally saying you don't have the right skin or hair. Then they create these billion dollar industries focused on making their hair and skin look "right". Who else is carrying that burden to the same degree? That wounds a person its not so easy to ignore when it becomes such a big part of how people perceive one another. Maybe your daughter will never have to deal with it (hopefully) but its very real.
Nor can you speak for BW. You heard the experience of 1000 BW, what about that other 10,000,000 (give or take)? My point, don't lump them all in this so called inferior box.
No but it forms a cultural and societal narrative that follows one around that I am very sensitive to. And I really doubt that you can speak for BW anymore than ww we date can speak for bm. There are certain conversations you won't get unless you take the time to listen and hear people's experience. Do you ever listen to some of these bw and how they feel about their hair and skin complexion fam? It's heartbreaking when you think about it, from the moment they enter this world people are literally saying you don't have the right skin or hair. Then they create these billion dollar industries focused on making their hair and skin look "right". Who else is carrying that burden to the same degree? That wounds a person its not so easy to ignore when it becomes such a big part of how people perceive one another. Maybe your daughter will never have to deal with it (hopefully) but its very real.
negro read a book lol
Whatever fam.
Great post!!!!
My point is its not aneed inferiority thing to point out a glitch in the matrix. Like I said actually talk to some bw visit some sites the shit is real.
If you and i don't experience racism does it mean it doesn't exist?