Man Hits Woman - Was he Right ? Or Wrong ?

While I don't think ANYONE should EVER put their hands on another person, I also can understand that things are not always so clear cut as people would like to make them out to be. When I was growing up I had a "friend" who would do all sorts of things to instigate violence with her bf. Now, we've all come to this place where there supposedly is no such thing as a woman instigating violence and there is NO excuse for a man harming her in any way. Ok. But I witnessed things like her putting a butcher knife behind his head on a couch and starting to push and punch him while he sat there, tried to calm her down, tried to restrain her, etc. He moved away from her and when he popped up the knife fell out and he saw it. He grabbed it and was really angry. He ended up handing it to me (as someone else grabbed her and held her back), but it easily could have gone other ways. My point is that I saw her and her sisters (actually her mom too) do all sorts of crazy things that I would have been hard pressed to not back a man if he had knocked her out. She was a little tiny powerhouse....strong as could be. She was the sweetest little thing and then she would switch like she was possessed.
 
Meow wasn't posting anything like it was "normal" or randomly. He's posted about it on here several times.

In regards to someone questioning if a man being raped is possible or a male survivor's manhood....are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?! There's a lot of shit tolerated (even sometimes discussed) on here, but that's really crossing the line.
 
K said:
While I don't think ANYONE should EVER put their hands on another person, I also can understand that things are not always so clear cut as people would like to make them out to be. When I was growing up I had a "friend" who would do all sorts of things to instigate violence with her bf. Now, we've all come to this place where there supposedly is no such thing as a woman instigating violence and there is NO excuse for a man harming her in any way. Ok. But I witnessed things like her putting a butcher knife behind his head on a couch and starting to push and punch him while he sat there, tried to calm her down, tried to restrain her, etc. He moved away from her and when he popped up the knife fell out and he saw it. He grabbed it and was really angry. He ended up handing it to me (as someone else grabbed her and held her back), but it easily could have gone other ways. My point is that I saw her and her sisters (actually her mom too) do all sorts of crazy things that I would have been hard pressed to not back a man if he had knocked her out. She was a little tiny powerhouse....strong as could be. She was the sweetest little thing and then she would switch like she was possessed.
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Reminds me of a female soldier I knew. She was always ready for a fight. She worked in intel, so we weren't in the same company, but she was always trying to wrestle dudes. I remember she smacked her boyfriend in the face and kicked him in the groin at lightning speed. We all kind of stood there like WTF? And she was hopping back and forth like Ali hoping he would do something. I wasn't an NCO at the time, so all I could do was tell her to chill out. You run in to all kinds and there are many situations that aren't just black and white. She couldn't have been more than 5'3" and a pretty woman too. But, man, she just had that crazy ass/abusive energy.
 
"Yeah she did put her hands on him first, but he is clearly stronger and CLEARLY can pack more power, I would of chose a different tactic."

That right there should have given her indication NOT to put her hand on him, let alone his face, that's pushing it too far. If a 5'8" 130 pound male put his hand on the face of a man 6'2" and 100 pounds heavier, and that 6 footer punched his lights out, would we be even having this conversation miss?

"she hit him first I don't believe in going around hitting women"

I believe in egalitarianism, something I think many 'feminist' have an allergy towards, I don't believe anyone male/female should initiative violence. It's a shame that in almost every culture that defending oneself against a women is not acceptable UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE yet beating children in the name of 'obedience' is still a universal concept despite the fact that a child's brain is not fully developed yet a grown women is more than capable of understanding that assaulting someone could in theory get you hurt.
 
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FromUKNHereToPlay said:
Nope. Columbo I'm 100% black man from the UK. Though I've heard that "Your a white man" line millions of times. But if your raped by a woman, then your not not a man in the first place.
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Smh....

Are you a virgin? You have done nothing but whine since you signed up. You hate women because you can't get laid. Now it's clear that you have never been in a situation where your dick got hard and you didn't want sex.

I remember having a serious conversation with a woman I was seeing and she kept touching me and my dick got hard. She was completely ignoring me and it was a clear sign to move on. I left that day and never returned.

The point is not only did I not want to have sex that day, I dumped her for good, but my dick still got hard.

Who can take this fourm seriously with your lame ass here?
 
Beasty said:
Smh....

Are you a virgin? You have done nothing but whine since you signed up. You hate women because you can't get laid. Now it's clear that you have never been in a situation where your dick got hard and you didn't want sex.

I remember having a serious conversation with a woman I was seeing and she kept touching me and my dick got hard. She was completely ignoring me and it was a clear sign to move on. I left that day and never returned.

The point is not only did I not want to have sex that day, I dumped her for good, but my dick still got hard.

Who can take this fourm seriously with your lame ass here?
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I hate women with every fibre of my being. Yes. But I'm honest about that

But I am not violent to them. And yeah women can do freaky sh*t, like the women you went on a date with, but remember that women you went on a date who was touching you n stuff, will come on a nun flex to another man and clown him and say "She has to get to know a guy before she get's physical"
 
FromUKNHereToPlay said:
I hate women with every fibre of my being. Yes. But I'm honest about that
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OK, this dude is a troll!! He should probably be banned. @webmaster
 
FromUKNHereToPlay said:
I hate women with every fibre of my being. Yes. But I'm honest about that

But I am not violent to them. And yeah women can do freaky sh*t, like the women you went on a date with, but remember that women you went on a date who was touching you n stuff, will come on a nun flex to another man and clown him and say "She has to get to know a guy before she get's physical"
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Ok why the HELL would you be on a forum that is specifically for men AND women if you "hate women with every fibre of [your] being"

Go away. Have a feeling you'll be banned soon.
 
meowkittenmeow said:
Actually, I'll just go ahead and put you on ignore.
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Ignore his ignorant ass. He's shown himself time and time again to be a very bitter person who views women as just sluts and bitches lol. He has nothing intelligent to add to this site, as noted once again by his narrow minded comments in this thread. Smh. Rejected, pathetic white men have nothing better to do than troll this site I guess.
 
As for the topic of the thread...Nope nope nope, he was absolutely not justified in knocking her out. I've had this argument here time and time again but he could've restrained her without punching her like he did. Strength must be taken into consideration. If she's got ugly words, fight her back with WORDS. If she puts her hands on you, restrain her. I will NEVER understand beating someone smaller than you when other forms of physical restraint could've been used on them.
 
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As for the topic of the thread...Nope nope nope, he was absolutely not justified in knocking her out. I've had this argument here time and time again but he could've restrained her without punching her like he did. Strength must be taken into consideration. If she's got ugly words, fight her back with WORDS. If she puts her hands on you, restrain her. I will NEVER understand beating someone smaller than you when other forms of physical restraint could've been used on them.
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I understand what you mean. She hit him and attempted to strangle him. If he was trained to take her down nonviolently then yes, restraining would have been an option. Unfortunately, bot every man is trained to restrain a woman who means to strangle you to death and might possibly kick you in the groin (a full force groin kick can do insane amounts of damage to the point of never having kids). It seemed like he just reacted when she put her arms around his neck. But, I think there is an assumption, from women, that assume all men young and old are trained to restrain abusive violent women. Like we learned it in Man School or smething. That isn't the case. I look at this as self defense the moment she tried to choke him. If it was just based on a push then I would say it was excessive use of force. The moment you try to choe someone you are make an attempt on someone's life. But, I do understand where you and K are coming from. I know we won't agree on this, but I do understand the point you are trying to make.
 
I'm all about putting a bum bitch in her place for getting out of line physically but he is not justified what so ever. Obviously dude went inside looking for trouble so this situation could of been completely avoided. He didn't hit her out of defense but out of anger. She hardly flinched when he flexed his fist the first time.

Now she still is in the wrong but again, I can't back him up on this.
 
4north1side2 said:
I'm all about putting a bum bitch in her place for getting out of line physically but he is not justified what so ever. Obviously dude went inside looking for trouble so this situation could of been completely avoided. He didn't hit her out of defense but out of anger. She hardly flinched when he flexed his fist the first time.

Now she still is in the wrong but again, I can't back him up on this.
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I didn't read the police report. Is that what happened or is there more to the story or something?
 
4north1side2 said:
I just read the body language from the video.
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I see. I suppose that could have been the case. Based on previous comments that mean words or a rough presence isn't enough provocation to warrant physical violence against women. So, the same can be said for men. I am reminded of the "you're going to jail now-bus driver thread"... it seems as though there is a double standard, but I see your point. I would really like to see the police reports.
 
The first time she shoved (hit) him he should have immediately left the area and never allowed her anywhere near his life. This young man has a scholarship, future and a reputation to protect. Even if he was assaulted first, men who are physically larger and stronger are not going to get the benefit of the doubt from a legal perspective, especially when it is a Black man and a White woman involved in the altercation. I hope every man here is teaching their sons and other young men in their lives these crucial legal realities.
 
Loki said:
The first time she shoved (hit) him he should have immediately left the area and never allowed her anywhere near his life. This young man has a scholarship, future and a reputation to protect. Even if he was assaulted first, men who are physically larger and stronger are not going to get the benefit of the doubt from a legal perspective, especially when it is a Black man and a White woman involved in the altercation. I hope every man here is teaching their sons and other young men in their lives these crucial legal realities.
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This. I agree with him hitting her back but with the way society is and him being black, the shit fucked him over. I wouldn't hit her back but won't fault another person for doing it.
 
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