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Discussion in 'In the Media' started by Max Mosley, May 26, 2011.

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I am just re-reading "Fire & Blood Vol. 1" right now having purchased it months ago on Amazon. It truly is a MAGNIFICENT literary work; I cannot recommend it enough to fans of the HBO adaptation and aSoI&F books as well. GRRM really did wonderful work in expanding upon "The Rogue Prince" novella from years ago. It will surely keep you entertained as we all await "The House of the Dragon" which begins shooting this very week in the UK.

When we look at these pictures of the Darkstar ~ Ser Gerold Dayne . . . particularly the first one . . . does anyone else wonder if his streak of Black hair washes out ala the Blue hair of Young Griff (the false identity of Prince Aegon VI)? Princess Arianne concludes in "A Feast for Crows" that her children with Ser Gerold Dayne "would be a beautiful as the dragonlords".

With over 17 swaps, replacements, frauds, substitutes, decoys and false identities throughout the aSoI&F series of books . . . from Queen Cersei's bastard Baratheons with Jamie Lannister . . . to Princess (Dreamfyre) Rhaena's twin toddlers of Princess Aerea & Princess Rhaella in "Fire & Blood Vol.1" . . . why wouldn't GRRM hide even more characters yet to be revealed in "The Winds of Winter" as frauds, decoys and false identities?

Since Princess Myrcella Baratheon

was a false Baratheon princess and yet afforded a royal decoy in her cousin Rosamund Pyke for her security detail in Dorne . . . why wouldn't Queen Rhaella Targaryen secure a royal decoy for her last living son, Prince Viserys III, from among the numerous children on Dragonstone (the dragon seeds) who have Valyrian features before she crowned him King of Westeros, Lord of the Andals and the First Men, and Protector of the Realm?

Chris Rock says "I know a Targaryen royal when I see one! You can't sneak a Targaryen prince past me!! That's not a Westerosi knight from a cadet branch of House Dayne with not an ounce of verifiable lineage, ancestry nor definitive birthdate . . . that is King Viserys Targaryen III"

EDIT: Furthermore, in the aSoI&F book "Fire & Blood", the source material for "House of the Dragon", Princess Rhaenys Targaryen (the Queen who Never was) only has one son with Corlys Velaryon (the Sea Snake) ~ Prince Laenor Velaryon. Prince Laenor shares three very descriptive facial features: 1. Aqualine nose 2. Deep purple eyes 3. Silvery white hair (page 374 of ("Fire & Blood").

These are the VERY same exact facial features that Princess Arianne Martell describes the Darkstar as having which make him in her experienced evaluation the most handsome man in the land.

So if that Black streak of hair the Darkstar has does indeed wash out like hair dye . . . he would look like a Targaryen prince!! Plus, I submit that it is no coincidence that the Darkstar has no known or verifiable parents, siblings, or bloodline even to give him standing. As a descendant of House Dayne he could rightfully claim "Dawn" as a knight of High Hermitage.

High Hermitage is a cadet branch of House Dayne where Ser Gerold resides. If he had verified lineage to the family of the legendary Ser Arthur Dayne & the glorious Lady Ashara Dayne . . . then he would have standing to claim the most famous sword in the Realm.

The Darkstar does NOT have standing required to rightfully claim "Dawn" . . . King Viserys III however does have such standing via Dyanna Dayne his great-great grandmother who gave birth to Master Aemon Targaryen of the Night's Watch and his siblings like King Aegon Targaryen V & Aerion Brightflame a possible great grandfather of Lord Varys. With a legitimate claim to "Dawn" the newly revealed King Viserys III could rally more knights to his cause and validate Prince Doran's assessment as "the most dangerous man in Dorne". He could overthrow Prince Doran at Sunspear then set his sights on the Iron Throne eventually!!
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Hey aSoI&F fans here is a little something I just had to share from Reddit. Please read the first page at least and share any thoughts you may have: https://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.p...alert-darkstar-is-the-real-viserys-targaryen/

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George R.R. Martin’s Original ‘Game of Thrones’ Trilogy Synopsis

from the Wrap.com

SPOILER WARNING: Do not read if you are not at least caught up on what is going on with the TV series.

A 1993 letter from author George R.R. Martin reveals his original story line for “A Song of Ice and Fire,” which would later be adapted into popular HBO series “Game of Thrones.”

The letter to Martin’s publisher leaked when Waterstones Books originally tweeted photos of the document, which were later deleted. But, a Tumblr user did fans a solid and re-posted the photos.

The typed letter details Martin’s original plan for the book series before it was published, which included that the series originally would be a trilogy with five surviving characters: Tyrion Lannister, Daenerys Targaryen, Jon Snow and Stark children Arya and Bran.

For those who’d like to see what else Martin envisioned for the book series, here’s some highlights from the original synopsis:

Ed and Catelyn Stark still die: The Starks still don’t end well. Ed Stark dies at the hands of Joffrey Baratheon, and Catelyn flees North with her children Arya and Bran. Catelyn still meets her demise – like on Season 3 of the HBO series – but by the hands of The Others. Her son, Robb, will die on the battlefield against the Lannisters but not before killing the despicable Joffrey.

Arya and Jon fall in love: Arya and her half-brother Jon fall in love although they never act on their feelings. Their love comes to a halt when his true lineage – heavily speculated by book readers – is revealed. While on the run from his brother, Tyrion falls for Arya when he sides with the Starks.

Sansa actually marries Joffrey and bears Joffrey’s heir : Betraying her family, Sansa weds Joffrey and bears him an heir before regretting her decision.

Daenerys avenges her ruthless brother Viserys: In this earlier version, Daenerys Targaryen is actually upset that Khal Drogo kills her brother, Viserys and exacts her revenge before beginning a siege on the Seven Kingdoms.

At letter’s end, the final paragraph is blacked out before Martin writes his goodbye.

“I hope you will find some editors who are as excited about all of this as I am. Feel free to share this letter with anyone who wants to know how the story will go,” Martin wrote.

Obviously, a lot of the original story has changed in the last 22 years. However, it should be interesting to note that all of the characters originally meant to survive by story's end are still alive in the current series. Perhaps that's the one element of the story that's remained constant?
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Saw the actual synopsis which GRRM submitted to Bantam Books on YouTube via Ser Hunt and there is a sentence about "eliminating the Targaryen pretender" referring to Viserys Targaryen III so it cause me to pause and analyze it for accuracy!! Why would GRRM make such description unless . . . it was a clue for the Dragonstone decoy theory?!?

He could have wrote "eliminating the Targaryen contender" right?

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