Ashley Graham and her husband, Justin Ervin

Madeleine said:
I'm gonna distract this conversation again (I know you won't like that), but what's "ethnic" for you guys? Anyone who can trace their origin to a single source? Anyone who isn't American? Anyone who is darker than Americans with British ancestry? Sounds like the typical white American is the standard and everyone else is "other", I.e. ethnic. Just like straight hair is "standard" and other types of hair are "bad hair". I don't buy such linguistic biases. Nothing against you personally, just what I think about it in general.
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You answered your own question.
 
RicardoCooper said:
Oh you missed my point entirely. Curvy WW have been with us this whole time. I'm not some youngun, I've seen and lived through their relatively-new acceptance. But still when you think curvy, WW aren't the first to come to mind. Hence their popularity among black men as unicorns. My only point was that Ms. Graham's darker features make her seem ethnic when in fact she describes herself and a simple, Midwestern white girl.

Who knew my throwaway comment would spark such discussion.
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Ecactly. Curvy WW have always been there. Just because they are not in the main media and shows does not mean they donot exist.
I pnly need to go to our local city park on a weekend to see BM with curvy WW.
These people are finding what is best for themselves.
 
Madeleine said:
Yes, I know. That's also what we mean. But historically are Mexicans not a mix of native Americans and Spanish blood (the Spanish conquistadores)? Since we are trying to analyze where the curves came from. I'm saying Europeans have more curves than some might think and they contributed also to the famous Latina curves;)
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Latinas are people from Latin America from Mexico to Argentina. In the Caribbean Cuba,Dominican Republic,Puetro Rico,and other islands.
 
Madeleine said:
I'm gonna distract this conversation again (I know you won't like that), but what's "ethnic" for you guys? Anyone who can trace their origin to a single source? Anyone who isn't American? Anyone who is darker than Americans with British ancestry? Sounds like the typical white American is the standard and everyone else is "other", I.e. ethnic. Just like straight hair is "standard" and other types of hair are "bad hair". I don't buy such linguistic biases. Nothing against you personally, just what I think about it in general.
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When you see a lighter biracial person they are either from the US or UK. If darker Africa.
 
Madeleine said:
Curves are not in on our side. Sometimes I myself wonder the kind of skinny flat-chested, flat-assed chicks man go crazy about over here. I think if I were a man I wouldn't want a small-boy version of myself.
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You hit that on the head Madeleine. In some Eastern European lands like Poland I had seen it.
 
Soulthinker said:
When you see a lighter biracial person they are either from the US or UK. If darker Africa.
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That's what people think, I guess? Well, the mixed people/kids population in Germany is growing every day, and almost all are Afro-German, not from US or UK. I guess it's confusing for some people to see a mixed person speak with a German accent.
 
Skaddix said:
Meh Skin color doesnt really work that way sure on average that is true but its hardly absolute.
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Yeah, it doesn't work that way at all. There are some really light people in Nigeria and South Africa who aren't even mixed.
One of my sons is really light, almost like me. The other one a little darker. Anything is possible.
 
Madeleine said:
That's what people think, I guess? Well, the mixed people/kids population in Germany is growing every day, and almost all are Afro-German, not from US or UK. I guess it's confusing for some people to see a mixed person speak with a German accent.
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It is the same in France.
Almost all mixed people are French/African.
 
Madeleine said:
Yes, my husband is a Nigerian. Yours?

Do you know Ayo and Patrice? Two famous Afro-Germans:). I hear they are both really popular in France?! Then of course there's Nneka, too.
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My ex were from Cameroon and Senegal.
Yes and African entertainers are popular here.
 
sarah23 said:
My ex were from Cameroon and Senegal.
Yes and African entertainers are popular here.
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My husband spent most of his time growing up in the Anglophone part of Cameroon. Cameroonians easily get visas to study in Germany, that's why there are many here (both Anglo and Franco). Sarah, I think we have to stop derailing this thread, else they'll kick us out. Le's move over to the international corner to discuss our Afro-European issues:-))
 
Madeleine said:
My husband spent most of his time growing up in the Anglophone part of Cameroon. Cameroonians easily get visas to study in Germany, that's why there are many here (both Anglo and Franco). Sarah, I think we have to stop derailing this thread, else they'll kick us out. Le's move over to the international corner to discuss our Afro-European issues:-))
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You won't get kicked out. Just make another thread about the Africans in Europe.
 
Madeleine said:
My husband spent most of his time growing up in the Anglophone part of Cameroon. Cameroonians easily get visas to study in Germany, that's why there are many here (both Anglo and Franco). Sarah, I think we have to stop derailing this thread, else they'll kick us out. Le's move over to the international corner to discuss our Afro-European issues:))[/QUOT
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Madeleine said:
My husband spent most of his time growing up in the Anglophone part of Cameroon. Cameroonians easily get visas to study in Germany, that's why there are many here (both Anglo and Franco). Sarah, I think we have to stop derailing this thread, else they'll kick us out. Le's move over to the international corner to discuss our Afro-European issues:))
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Yes that is true.
Is alreasy a posts about European women with African men.
We just did not have many European women here before.
 
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