Rep. Maxine Water's Memo to Tea Party: Go To Hell!!!

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Kid Rasta, Aug 22, 2011.

  1. Kid Rasta

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  2. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

  3. Iggy

    Iggy Banned

    Not a fan of the Tea Party at all but man she is stupid. I cringe everytime I hear her speak.
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Why exactly is she stupid?
     
  5. Iggy

    Iggy Banned

    Well for one, her whining that Obama some how owes the black community stuff. I'll post some more stuff in this thread later but I gotta get going right now (she's said a ton of stupid stuff in the past as well)
     
  6. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    He petitioned for the black vote in 08 why shouldn't they expect something from their elected official
     
  7. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    The real question is what have Waters or the Congressional Black Caucus done for Black America, they've been in place way longer than Obama.

    I do agree with the "Tea Party can go to hell" statement, though.
     
  8. Iggy

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  9. Iggy

    Iggy Banned

    Like free gas and having their mortgages paid for?:smt043

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI
     
  10. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    How about a little attention on the fact that bm are unemployed at twice the rate of wm. Just saying.
     
  11. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    Great Post! Race baiter my foot. WM hated her for a reason and it was telling the truth. Plus she is not stupid and informed the Black audience that if they want to complain against Obama she will do so.
     
  12. Kid Rasta

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    Why??? Cause she doesn't mince her words???

    The Kid Rasta
     
  13. Kid Rasta

    Kid Rasta Restricted

    Thank you.

    The Kid Rasta
     
  14. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    The answer would be yes, though I still don't expect Obama to address this problem directly. He also sought Hispanic and Women voters too.

    I think that he has an obligation to represent all his constituents. If he attacks the problems of unemployment, Black people will be helped by his efforts.

    Considering the division in Washington now, I can't imagine any scenario in which he would put Black interests ahead of other issues.

    This is still a representative form of government and he doesn't create laws. He can only act to influence laws through his bully pulpit.
     
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  15. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    Obviously, I'm not surprised that you disagree. You often overlook the root causes of issues in favor of simple answers and sound bites.

    It seems to me that any right-minded and clear thinking person could see the myriad of forces that have come together, all relating to exclusion historically, that continue to affect the Black community. Whenever some effort is made to change that, like Affirmative Action, suddenly White America forgets those influences and wants to focus of a minority of Black athletes or media stars as proof that things are different.

    Imagine, if the U.S. ever got really serious about dealing the issue of equality. Perhaps, real action, like that taken in South Africa, might be enacted. That country took two steps that citizens here would never support.

    First, the minority White government acknowledged that it had systematically oppressed the people of South Africa. They knew that to address the problems seriously they couldn't attempt "band-aids" that would at most result in the continued disenfranchisement of Black citizens. So, they literally made the decision to change the balance of economic power by putting corporations in the hands of Blacks, with specific goals of transforming the power equation.

    But, those are the kinds of drastic actions that you take if you are serious. Otherwise, you're paying lip service and you'll never fix the problem without real dialogue and meaningful changes in power. Of course, that idea is more radical than the use of chattel slavery, denial of equal access and the theft of land from Black people in this country. Perhaps, you should try to research the history of this country? Then, you MIGHT understand that Black people aren't responsible for their plight, universally and without exception.

    It doesn't mean that individuals don't have responsibility for doing the best they can do with the resources and talents God has given them. But, it does mean that the progress of a few can't improve the lives of the many.
     
  16. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member


    It's also psychology 101 that people tend to be most comfortable/are more likely to associate with/hire people who are like themselves. You'd learn about that research in a high school psych class.

    So who's doing the hiring? Who are they more likely to hire? Add in a side dose of racism and the answer is clear.

    You'll also note there's been a big upswing in disability claims during this recession, as disabled workers are often the first to go, and finding work in a recession is even harder for them than it usually is. Same thing operating here, along with a side does of able-ism.
     
  17. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    I've heard this statement before, though I'm not sure if I agree with it. In fact, I still vividly recall an incident as a younger engineer when a White manager repeated this sentiment. He stated that when he looked at me, he didn't see someone who looked like his son. I found that comment strange that many years ago, and equally un-compelling as an explanation in a business setting.

    I would expect any professional manager to hire a candidate without regard to superficial issues like race or gender. Obviously, I realize that chemistry is a part of that decision, but it should be chemistry within the organization. Perhaps, I'm wired differently, but that's how I have ALWAYS made hiring decisions. I've hired people of all races and both genders and for me it was a matter of ethical, professional and fiduciary responsibility.

    What this suggests to me is that people bring their societal prejudices to the workplace and that those attitudes influence their decisions, even though such decisions are at odds with the success of the organization.
     
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  18. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    You're right, discussion is useless as I think that you have your head buried in the sand and can't see the forest for the trees. As for your "strategy", I find it to be the typical band aid approach. So, good luck to you.
     
  19. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    As usual, you seek to deflect from the issues. The issue was the disproportionate unemployment of Blacks, not unemployment in general..
     
  20. Iggy is basically one of those judasgoats plain and simple.. Maxime Waters already fought for thoses without voice throughtout whole political career... She has been target for right-wing since ninties... Especially, when Gary Webb exposed how CIA and Contras use gangs to push drugs in the black community...
     

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