Last Names and Marriage

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by archangel, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    That's your state. Each case/place is different. Do try again, though, Counselor.
     
  2. Nerdy Girl

    Nerdy Girl New Member

    Just saying.... be happy I gave you a pass on the implicit caveman-type assumption that it's the man who's acquiring all the property.
     
  3. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    Gotta love the defensiveness.
     
  4. Sin Mari

    Sin Mari New Member

    Yes and no. lol My man's last name isn't great. It's hard for people to pronounce and it brings cringes, confused looks and giggles to Aussies who hear it. So i'm of two minds about taking it officially. I would like to use it (and am), but still use my name occasionally. I don't know, I've been thinking about it a lot ever since we decided to get married and I still haven't made up my mind.
     
  5. Nerdy Girl

    Nerdy Girl New Member

    What am I supposed to be defensive about, exactly?
     
  6. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    I think yours is a special case. I had a friend who married some African dude and took his boola-boola last name. I couldn't even pronounce it. And she's white too. They have since divorced and she got her name back.
     
  7. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry, I'm hearing adults in a Charlie Brown special again.
     
  8. Nerdy Girl

    Nerdy Girl New Member

    :rolleyes:
     
  9. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    Because she enabled the man to make it if they had a "traditional" marriage. But I don't know any married women who don't work, do you?
     
  10. Sin Mari

    Sin Mari New Member

    Yeah, it's difficult when the name is so vastly different to anything in your own culture. I love man and his name, but I think I might end up not using it most of the time. I've been told that I can use both names anyway, so I might just stick with that. If that makes sense? I'll have to talk to him about it though, don't want to hurt his feelings over it.
     
  11. Sin Mari

    Sin Mari New Member

    Yes. Quite a few. It's a common thing, even though those of us who work don't want it to be.
     
  12. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    I don't know any. I never cared one way or another whether some other person works or not, but the financial fact is most couples today need two incomes.

    I do know one stay at home dad who doesnt work outside the house, but he also has MS.
     
  13. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    In the area I live in, I'd say that at least 90% of the wives don't work.
     
  14. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    I know several women who've chosen to keep their last names or at least hyphenate them. I've always wanted my last name to stay a part of my name, & when I was younger the plan was to use it to replace my middle name (I don't like my middle name). I have always wanted to go the traditional route & take my husband's last name as the family name. For me personally, changing my last name is not the same thing as changing or throwing away my identity as a person. I'm still me regardless & I don't feel that by changing my name I'd be losing anything. If by chance the marriage doesn't work out (if it ever happens in the first place), then I'd change it back to my maiden name.

    What threw a monkey wrench into the whole ideal for me was that I had my son while I wasn't married, which definitely wasn't planned...no regrets though. I had to make a decision about his name, & it wasn't an easy one to make. After much thought & prayer I opted to go the nontraditional route & gave my son my last name. His "dad" gave every indication via his behavior that he wanted to be as far way from the situation as possible, & my instinct was that he'd choose not to be a part of my son's life...sadly my instinct was on target. If he wasn't going to be around, & I was going to be my son's family, I wanted us to share the same last name. That's the most important reason I'd never drop my name completely.

    My professional name in connection with my writing will be my original name except for a pseudonym I've used on occasion.

    I think it is a very personal decision, & I respect the fact that folks have different views on the topic. It's about doing what we want & think is best for us, & there's no reason this topic should be an issue for someone who looks at it differently than we do when it has no effect on them or anyone else.
     
  15. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    Careful, that's in conflict with Pixie World where all the women work, are alpha females, and taking your husband's last name is antiquated and a sign of submission, yet married men live longer.
     
  16. Sin Mari

    Sin Mari New Member

    LOL
     
  17. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    I know quite a few women who don't work & stay home with their children. One couple has 10 children, & I don't know how they do it on just one income.

    Although many of these women don't have an actual "jobs", they still work. Not only is running & maintaining a home & children a ton of work, they do other things to bring in extra money. I know women who cook (baking birthday cakes for example), sewing/tailoring/mending, selling Avon or Mary Kay, babysitting in their homes, pet & house sitting, running errands for others while running their own, making crafts, etc. Very few that I know sit on their asses like Peggy Bundy watching soap operas & eating bonbons...except for my lazy sister-in-law that is.
     
  18. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    Lol...karmsy. You're such a tease.

    It's crazy though when I think of how little the numbers are of women who work outside of the home. I will mention though that they all have children, but honestly once those kids go to school they seriously need to get out in the workforce. You can see the disconnect between their reality and mine
     
  19. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    I never said taking your husband's name was an act of submission. I just saw no reason to do it. Not all women are alpha females, either, I've never suggested that. The women *I* know work.

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    Health & Human services studies of health effects of marriage

    And Tam, I agree, different choices for different people. For me, changing my name just was not something I felt comfortable doing. I have a dear friend who, when I asked her why she had changed her name said "I like my husband a hell of a lot more than I liked my father." That made a lot of sense. People make different choices based on all kinds of different factors.
     
  20. Nerdy Girl

    Nerdy Girl New Member

    Maintaining a connection to her professional reputation, etc., is one reason why a woman might choose not to change her name upon marriage. But for those of you who think that having the same surname is important for forging a sense of unity or some such thing, why should it be the woman alone who changes her name? Have any of the guys committed to a common last name considered changing theirs or hyphenating it in some way?
     

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