Chloe Marshall...plus size beauty breaking stereotypes

Aww, thanx...

 

I don't think that's accurate Andrae. I think anytime you argue a point that isn't accepted or agreeable to the majority of people you're discussing a topic with, that you're going to take fire for it. It has less to do with your gender and more to do with your opinion.

 

question for you loki...you have an opening at your place of business...several people apply...who do you chose?

1. obese and the most qualified for the job
2. some skill set for the job, attractive but doesn't interview well
3. works for the competition, qualified noticably pregnant
4. straight out of college, fit, no previous work experience

 

Well, she looks proportionate, anything proportionate is "pretty" by definition, Douzen Kroes is tall and has very big bones too, she's a strong woman

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&...zen kroes&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

But she's still hot because her body is proportionate.

 

Oh I agree with you and since the topic is body image I think more women are sensative about the topic especially when me a man talks about it. Its like the immigration arizona thread, its clear the bm are far more sensative about the topic because we take the immigration problem as a personal attack on us.

 

What I was basically saying is, everyone carries their weight differently.

Some people can handle more weight on their body and it looks proportionate.

 

We can certainly agree on the virtually unchecked corruption of health insurance companies, 2014 can't get here fast enough when the recently passed healthcare bill will go into effect and greater scrutiny and controls are placed on the insurance companies.

What I can say from personal experience in dealing with them in quarterly reviews of the health insurance plan/coverage for my company is that the insurance companies are VERY quick to point out the obesity epidemic, and always have data and studies from the CDC or some other very reputable organization, AMA ect., making direct connections between Americans expanding waistlines and medical costs. I have noticed recently that they are putting their money where their mouths are as more and more as they are now willing to give discounts to companies that implement policies that pay or incentivize employees to slim down, like the article I posted, which is why I will probably implement such a plan for my employees soon.

 

My point exactly, and that's the reason Chloe Marshall is overweight, her body is not proportionate at all.

 

What kind of business do you run if you don't mind me asking

 

Well, we'll just agree that we disagree, cause I'm not about to get into a weight debate with you. This topic has become annoying....

 

Hmm, checks the office for any EOE (equal opportunity employer) agents before I answer....

Seriously, legally (and due to my own personal morals and values) I can't condone discriminating against the obese person if they are the best candidate based on qualifications, and discriminating against a pregnant woman is a BIG no-no sure to bring civil liability, not to mention a lousy thing to do.

That being said, as a business owner my duty is also to the bottom line, I would hope that the obese person is not suffering any ailments related to their weight to the point that they are not able to get coverage (I have had that happen a few times, pre-existing conditions ect.) if they are able to get coverage then I know I will be fighting with the insurance company over increased rates at some point, just the reality of providing health insurance for employees in 2010, which is why I am seriously considering implementing an employee incentive plan for fitness.

 

Law firm/Estate planning

 

Perhaps you are correct Andrae. However, I can think of several exceptions to that theory. The abortion thread and the chubby chasers thread specifically come to mind. So I really think you being a man isn't the issue, it's your opinion. If you were a woman stating the same opinion in the same manner, you'd be catching just as much hell IMO.

 

Very nice. I often think about going to law school but I think I'm a little too old for that at this point.

 

That is an awesome benefit. They probably realize it is money well spent in catching illness and setting up good healthcare as opposed to the cost of an illness down the road if unchecked.

 

You are never too old to learn something new. I know a medical doctor who in his early fifties was tired of seeing patients get caught up in the mess that is the insurance system, so he went to law school at night so he could be their legal advocate when dealing with the insurance companies as well as their doctor. He is an excellent attorney for his clients. Law school teaches you an entirely different way to think, and you gain in depth understanding of the meaning behind words.

Just remember the unfortunate fact that the law has nothing to do with justice...

 

Andrae you should. You like a good discussion/debate. You would be no doubt a great litigator.

 

No, you're not. I'm your age, and I'm a law student. I'm also considering applying to business school next semester so that I can get into the joint MBA/JD program. Like Loki said, you're never too old for school.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/12/nola-ochs-98-years-old-to_n_573670.html

 

Excellent, we need more intelligent, articulate young men like yourself in the profession!!!