Don't believe in domestic abuse but......

Discussion in 'In the News' started by shion, Dec 2, 2008.

  1. shion

    shion New Member

  2. Brittney

    Brittney Well-Known Member

    You shouldn't let a woman be worth a loooooooooong fucking Xmas in jail. I remember my brother and sis-in-law went to the bar one night. She was messing with three other dudes and grabbing their dicks talking about doing a foursome and my brother was standing right there (she was doing it "at" him on purpose). Then she threw rocks at my brother (they were outside) and swung at him to punch him (she was drunk and missed). She wasn't doing it for any other reason except she's a psycho bitch and was drunk and on bipolar medicine on top of it.) And he hit her. And went to jail for it. I don't blame him. If I was him I would have beat that bitch's ass the fuck down a long time ago because she's such a bitch and she's fuckin crazy and she's hit him and provoked him so many times before that, but he was able to obstain from that and "just walk away". He doesn't believe in hitting women either and couldn't believe he had (that was the only time). But, I think she deserved it. Fuckin bitch!! She's a fucking psycho. I can't even explain. If anyone knew who she was and if I could describe it. Everyone would agree with me.
     
  3. shion

    shion New Member

    you know crazy women fucks the best.
     
  4. Brittney

    Brittney Well-Known Member

    Actually, "Intellectual" women are the best lovers. Studies show that. Go after the bookworms!!!!!!
     
  5. shion

    shion New Member

    give me a point of reference ..... better yet, find that smart girl and send her to address ...I'll find for myself.
    I got strict standards.
     
  6. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    I'll second that! :smt023 ;) :lol:
     
  7. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    I hope she's no longer a part of the family?? Wow.
     
  8. Dex216

    Dex216 New Member

  9. HappyLife

    HappyLife New Member

    I agree, nothing worst than sexing jello.
     
  10. HappyLife

    HappyLife New Member

  11. Brittney

    Brittney Well-Known Member

    Yep, she is. My brother won't leave her because of "the kids". She doesn't even like them (they're 3 and 5) whenever they get near her, she says, "Get the fuck away from me." My brother is the one who feeds them, bathes them, plays with them, gives them attention, loves them, etc. But he doesn't have a job because he doesn't have an ID or social security card and no car. And when he tries to ask his wife to take him to go get it so he can get a job, she says it's his/our mother's job. Then they get into a fight and he walks 10 miles to my mom's house and stays for a couple days, but goes back because he's afraid his wife isn't feeding or caring for their kids because all she does is sleep. Which also makes him afraid to work. Because one time before my neice was a year old my brother came home from work to find his wife asleep on the couch and my baby niece on the floor, her skin was purple, she was choking on a wrapper, and couldn't breathe. My brother saved her though, and she was okay, but it terrified him and he's scared to leave the kids alone with her. She is psycho. She bit a chunk out of my brother's stomach, and has threatened his life, and held a knife in his face threatening to cut off his lips because he was talking to another women. He's been to the mental hospital 3 times for trying to commit suicide, and he said it's her making him crazy because of her crazy chemical imbalances in her own brain. But, I've tried and there's nothing I can do or say to knock any sense into him. And if he leaves her she always threatens him with the kids, talking about taking them away and he values them more than his life, or she says she'll kill herself if he doesn't come back. All that kind of abusive stuff. Etc. I hate her. Her and I have been in plenty of fights and arguments.
     
  12. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    Sounds true. My friend is dating this chick who was valedictorian of our class a couple years ago, and he tells us some hella freaky and rough shit. She also does hella drugs n' shit and forces my friend to take drugs. It's disgusting, but that's another story.
     
  13. kuntrygirl30

    kuntrygirl30 New Member

    That whole "staying for the kids" shit pisses me off. My brother says that also and is back with his ex wife. He brought my niece (the one he's staying for, who is only 4) to my other niece's b-day party and she looked horrible. Her hair and face were a mess and she had capri pants on and no coat (it was a rainy 38 degrees outside). When they were separated, this was not an issue with him. She is also afraid to accept gifts from us and said that her mother would throw them away. Again, not an issue when they were separated. The ex belittles him to such a degree that he isn't in the mindframe to take care of a child. There are so many other issues but that is another thread! Anyway...no one can convince me that staying for the kids is a better situation for them.
     
  14. kuntrygirl30

    kuntrygirl30 New Member

    Does that even make sense? Lol. I'm drunk off Nyquil, I can't sleep, and it's 2 in the morning. Sorry ya'll...
     
  15. Brittney

    Brittney Well-Known Member

    Yea, I don't think it's a better situation for my brother. Or for my niece and nephew because they have to watch and listen to the two of them argue, fight, and threaten each other, which tears my brother to pieces. Plus, they've been homeless and have had to move a lot because my brother will try to get away from her, then she'll go running to her mom's sometimes so she doesn't have to take care of her kids and so her mom can do it instead. Then they lose the place they were living in because they just abandoned it. Which I don't think is good for the children either because it leaves them with no foundation, or a home they can get used to and feel comfortable/"like home" in. I wish that he would just leave her, get on his feet, then take his kids, and be a single father. A lot of men do it. I don't know why he thinks he can't.
     
  16. Persephone

    Persephone New Member

    You really oughta point out to your brother just how damaged the children are going to be after coming from all that, and the craziness you both know is going to ensue in the coming years. That's a lifetime of therapy and bad relationships brewing, right there. A kid can't go through so much crap going on around them without coming out pretty fucked up.

    You should also point out that leaving the kids in such a situation is endangering the children and if he really cares about them at all he'll get them the fuck away from the situation or hope someone much more capable of raising children takes over.

    If he's tried to kill himself and still won't leave the woman, he's just as bad off as her, darlin. He's probably not afraid of being a single father, he's probably just too attached to the woman and he's scared of being alone. Just an assumption, of course, since I don't know the entirety of the situation, but the suicide attempts don't exactly indicate he's so concerned about his children, especially considering the way things go when he leaves for a few days. He should know that the woman is nothing but a therapy bill to those kids at best, and at worst their cause of death.

    I can sympathize with people who stay in abusive relationships because I can understand how someone can get trapped in it. Until there are children involved. When kids are involved the behaviour goes from being self destructive to impacting the lives of innocent kids who never asked for their lives to be so fucked up. Now, in this situation, there's no abuse factor concerning your brother, so what aside from his codependence is keeping him in such a destructive relationship? Those kids deserve so much more, and frankly if it were my brother I'd have already either taken custody of the kids myself, found another relative to take custody, or, as a last resort, gotten them placed in foster care. And I really don't trust foster care, but it would probably be better than that crap.

    Those are babies. Not a pet that got into the garbage and choked on a piece of plastic. BABIES. Anyone with any goddamn sense knows you don't leave anything lying close enough to children so young that they can get choked on, because babies put everything in their mouths. And to not even notice your CHILD is choking to death definitely fits the "unfit mother" category. He's already raising the kids by himself, he needs to see that and think of his children for once, because he is not thinking of them right now.

    Please talk some sense into him.
     
  17. Persephone

    Persephone New Member

    Ahem. back to the topic at hand.

    I could forgive a man for beating his wife over that if he caught her in the act. Seeing as how he would've had time to calm down before picking her up...I could forgive a bitch slap. But no more than a bitch slap. Ok, maybe two.

    There's a difference between a lowlife piece of scum who beats his wife every night and a man who loses his cool because a bitch does something stupid. Especially if a bitch is stupid enough (and can hit pretty hard) to start throwing out punches and not expect a guy to defend himself. I don't think an ass beating has to be thrown down, but if you can't take it, then don't dish it out, in my opinion. If I punch someone I expect them to punch me back, and I certainly wouldn't punch a burly butch dyke with bigger muscles than my ex boyfriend...I'm not saying the guy should punch a girl back if she punches him first, but I wouldn't get angry with him if he returned the blow simply because the bitch was dumb to do it in the first place, as long as he's not 6'5, 270, built like a football player, and she's 5'4, 110 and built like a cheerleader.

    unless she caught you cheating on her, of course. Then you deserve the same ass whooping you'd wanna give her if you caught her :D
     
  18. Brittney

    Brittney Well-Known Member

    I've tried to say everything I could. When I try to point out what I think would be best for his kids, or tell him he can raise them alone. He tells me, "You don't have any kids. You don't know what it's like. When you have kids, then you can tell me how to raise mine." Or he'll say, "She's not that bad any more." or "She's not like that all the time." or take up for her somehow. I've tried to tell him all the things you mentioned. He's extremely codependent. I don't think I could take custody of them though, because I don't think I'm ready to mother a 3 and 5 year old. He also can't be convinced that he'd get custody of them because he's the father. He also acknowledges that he's in no mental state to take care of a 3 and a 5 year old alone (he says because she's made him psychologically disturbed because of her craziness), and I've said, "You're doing it alone anyway!" Well, I'll try to talk some sense into him more. While I've said mostly the same things you said, I think you've phrased them a lot better to have more of an impact. I'll try talkin' to him again.
     
  19. Persephone

    Persephone New Member

    If he's not in the mental state to take care of children, and she obviously isn't, then they don't need custody. He needs to know this, and he needs to do what is best for his children. If neither parent is fit then neither parent should be raising the children. My mother almost lost my littlest brother to the state recently because of the shit going on at home, and I didn't entirely disagree with CPS. I just didn't want him in foster care. I don't know if I could have, but I would've tried to get custody before I let that happen, because I certainly don't want my family split up, but unless you or a relative can take on the kids, someone else needs to.

    Tell him to stop thinking of himself and start thinking about what's best for his damn kids. I wish I could sit this guy down and have a nice long talk with him. I bet I could get him to come around, because all he can see is from his perspective. I could explain to him what the fuck his kids are going through. Maybe that would open his eyes. If it wouldn't for the fact that I doubt he'd be interested in hearing an out of the family perspective, I would get his damn phone number from you and call him myself.

    Beg him to think of their future. Beg him to stop being selfish and start being a father. Remind him that being a father means you can't be selfish, because you have two little lives in your hands, and if he doesn't have what it takes then those children deserve a chance with parents who do.

    My ex roommate's mom and step dad adopted these three adorable little children. Two of them are biological siblings, and had quite a rough time with their birth parents. They got the kids when they were about the same ages as your brother's kids, and they had a lot of behavioural problems. Still have plenty of issues, but it's getting better. It broke my heart talking to the little girl (she was so sweet) because I could see how sad she was, and how starved for attention and love she'd been. It makes me happy that they've got some great parents now (who live in the burbs...not a bad life, really) but it kills me to think of the kinda crap they had to deal with before.

    The longer the kids deal with the crap, the more impact on their lives it will have. They deserve a better life than what your brother seems able to give them, and I don't mean financially. It's not the greatest way to grow up, but it's possible to raise a healthy kid if you're poor. It's impossible to raise an emotionally healthy child when they're dealing with so many problems at home, regardless of financial status.

    People who grow up to make big mistakes when it comes to relationships (such as habitually having abusive relationships, or abusing significant others themselves) more often than not grew up in horrible situations. It's not always something extreme ("daddy issues" can develop from an absence of a father figure, or a dad who just doesn't show emotion well) that can trigger such self destructive relationship choices in ourselves as adults, but the fact remains that the more extreme the fuck up as a child, chances are the more fucked up you'll be as an adult. Our childhood is where we learn our foundation for the rest of our lives.

    Anyone who cares about their children at all would want the best life possible for them. I'm not a mom, but I hope to be someday, and maybe my opinions will change, but you can damn well know that I would NEVER subject any child of mine to such neglect from their other parent. And if I myself couldn't take care of my children the way I know they need, then I would have to deal with my breaking heart and hope they can have a better life with someone else.

    Sorry. I just can't stand this bullshit, ya know? There are too many kids out there putting up with crap they don't need to be putting up with at such tender ages, and too many good people who can't have kids and want them for this shit to keep going on. A child deserves your very best as a parent, and if you can't fucking hack it then someone else can. There are so many things that can traumatize a child. Divorce can certainly do it. Having a single parent? Definitely a possibility. Being adopted? Big impact. But what a parent has to do is sit down and figure out if the impact these major life shifts are going to have on their child is better than the effect the crap they're dealing with is going to have on them. My mom would sometimes use the "staying for the kids" excuse, and trust me...I sincerely wish she hadn't.

    Give your brother some goddamn books written by people who grew up with crap like that, maybe that'll help him get a fucking clue.
     
  20. Brittney

    Brittney Well-Known Member

    If they had a phone I would give it to you too. He might be mad at me for talking about their stuff online, but oh well! Maybe I'll just print your posts and let him read them. And if he gets mad at me for talking about him, so be it, because I think what you're saying is more important anyway! Yea, I don't want my niece and nephew going to foster care, to be honest. But I don't want them to suffer living with my bro and his wife. I, personally, think that he could do it, even do it alone, even though he says he can't. I believe once he gets away from her. Then whatever he thinks is wrong with him mentally will dissipate and he'll be fine. I want him to get a job, then once he gets a job and starts making money and gets himself a place, then I'll babysit my niece and nephew while he's at work or our mom can. She doesn't get to see her grandkids much and she really misses them to death. My nephew is in preschool, and it won't be too long until my niece is in preschool, so that will help him do it alone and have little breaks to take time for himself, and if he can get a job working while his kids are at preschool, that would be great. I'd have him read books, but he doesn't like reading. I think my nephew has already started to be afflicted because he can be really mean and exhibit extremely bad behavior. Beating up his little sister, trying to hit his parents. They are pushovers and always give in, they won't even spank him. When they do spank him, once in a blue moon, he just laughs at them. I spoke up about it once and my brother bit my head off about I don't have any children and after I have children then I can tell him how to raise his. Just because I don't have children doesn't mean I don't have some common sense about some parental things. I'll talk to him again. And share some of your very intelligent comments, :D thank you a bunch, DoubleLT!! :)
     

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