TRUMP Thread

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bliss, Nov 11, 2016.

  1. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    No different than the rest of the world. Everyone and every leader is struggling to contain it.

    Spain has mandatory mask wearing and one of the higest rates.

    Italy had mandatory lock down, and you know that outcome.

    Iran, the same.

    India's Govt were shooting dead anyone outside of lockdown. Still have huge cases.

    China we know, even when they dragged covid + citizens to encampments in Wuhan, their numbers soared.

    South America and Mexico, huge numbers.

    Even Switzerland, huge numbers.

    You think President Trump can control 350 million people in the free-est country of the world?

    Sweden controlled no one and they did fine, it dipped up, then back down and are doing fine again. And they never shut down their economy.

    Same with Egypt. No lockdowns, no masks, low infections.
     
  2. tp480

    tp480 Well-Known Member

    So you know more than medical experts who have had years of education and certification ok. Go without a mask or better yet contract COVID-19. It’s all a joke and a hoax. I guarantee you won’t have the same stance!! This is stupid defending the indefensible!
     
  3. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Where praytell, in that post did you see me say anything about medical experts, let alone that "l know more" or call it a hoax?

    On the contrary, l discussed how differing methods world-wide still produced similar results. This virus is EVERYWHERE.

    As for masks, l think it's your choice.
    I chose to wear one when l go indoors at stores/restaurants. I damn well will NOT WEAR ONE in my home or outdoors, unless l'm in a crowd, which I've not been in one since March.

    Bottom line, you cannot, l repeat, cannot control the movement or actions of 7 billion people for months on end, let alone years. Why don't you get that?
     
  4. tp480

    tp480 Well-Known Member

    All your previous posts implied that getting it was no big deal! Again it’s just the flu. No big deal! Why avoid crowds? Herd immunity right?
     
  5. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    I have not said "it's just the flu", what l have said is, as many people, if not more have died from the flu. But we never shut our economy down.

    I've said People are dying from decreased, or nill medical attention for other deadly diseases and cancers.

    I've agreed WITH MEDICAL EXPERTS that herd immunity is our biggest chance to shutter this virus before a vaccine is available.

    As for avoiding crowds, l do, but if others don't, l don't think JAiLING them is the answer, or fining them. That's ridiculous.

    But evidently you do.
     
  6. tp480

    tp480 Well-Known Member

    Give me sources and by the way, QAnon, Briebart, or any other right source don’t count!
     
  7. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

  8. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Well here is a thread with loads of info..
    https://www.whitewomenblackmen.com/...urgeon-general-tells-americans-and-why.30032/

    Also:
    During the recent 2019-2020 winter flu season, the CDC estimates as many as 56 million people got sick with the flu and 62,000 died.

    https://www.aappublications.org/news/2020/08/21/fludeaths082120

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    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm


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    And just for some perspective for you in numbers of medical deaths, (all the while not shutting our economy down and causing suicides, depression, anxiety, family separations and sudden poverty to millions)..

    Medical errors cause an estimated 250,000 deaths in the United States annually.
    https://mymedicalscore.com/medical-error-statistics/


    Sepsis Kills 250,000 Americans Per Year.
    https://www.newsweek.com/cancer-drugs-could-treat-deadly-sepsis-687931


    Heart conditions remain the leading cause of death in the United States, responsible for 840,768 deaths (635,260 cardiac) in 2016.

    https://www.acc.org/latest-in-cardi.../aha-2019-heart-disease-and-stroke-statistics

    Cancer is the second leading cause of death in the United States. In 2018, there were 599,274 cancer deaths; 283,721 were among females and 315,553 among males.

    Breast cancer alone kills 50,000 women a year.

    https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/dcpc/research/update-on-cancer-deaths/index.htm
     
  9. tp480

    tp480 Well-Known Member

    Wow you went to a legitimate source. I’m in impressed!! I thought I was going to get the Fox News racists sermon echo chamber. So when asked for sources, I didn’t mean a bunch of statistics, I meant your source of news. Because this whole time you have been parroting right wing nonsense and gibberish.
     
  10. Madeleine

    Madeleine Well-Known Member

    This is full of falsehoods, but whatever. Carry on with your alternate reality.
     
  11. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Um, l read everything l can and have cited all types of news outlets over the years here, from the Alphabet MSM to Fox to Breitbart, Daily Caller, etc... l don't limit my reading.

    That first thread link has all kinds of different sources. But you're new here, so you wouldn't know that. So whatever.
     
  12. Tony Soprano

    Tony Soprano Moderator

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  13. tp480

    tp480 Well-Known Member

    What I do know is the modern GOP, the party of Trump are the following:

    -The party of neo-nazis. The president said they were very fine people and told them to stand by.
    -The party of voter suppression.
    -The anti-science party
    -The anti-woman party
    -The party of self-righteous religious bigots.
    -The party racism
    -The party of fascism

    I could go on. So while you have your historical anecdotal one offs and exceptions, there are 50 years of Well documented malfeasance.

    I get it though meth is a helluva drug.
     
  14. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

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    Cruel and without a bit of empathy in his body for those who died or their families. It dominated the lives of the over 200000 people that died.

    Vote!!
     
  15. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    Hollywood "freak" or not, he's 110% correct. The simple fact is that the extreme majority of Americans will never, ever have access to that level of healthcare.

    Great job trying to kill the messenger, though.
     
  16. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    Exactly! Absolutely no excuse for the callous manner in which he operates. He's totally without any form of leadership skills, and this is a glaring example. Of course his disciples continue to buy into any and every thing he says/does no matter how moronic.
     
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  17. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    That entire tweet has a very strong Dear Leader vibe to it. I'm still surprised that he hasn't come out and told us all how the doctors say that he's the healthiest person they've ever seen and how no one has beaten covid as great as he has.
     
  18. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member

    It's coming. And as soon as it comes the orange fraud will relapse.

    And if he dies watch his enablers try to "Weekend At Bernie's" his corpse in order to continue to scam that he's alive & well.......
     
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  19. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    But will he relapse, though? Or will he be so awesome at battling covid that doctors want him to come back for more observation because of how great he is because he's handled covid better than anyone who has ever lived in the history of humanity?
     
  20. hulkx

    hulkx Active Member

    Incorrect. Trump received fairly standard Covid treatment. Hollywood freaks and their lap dogs are making all sorts of noise because the president easily bounced back from a virus that has 99% survival rate. Despite the fact that Trump is in a high risk category.
    Regardless of whether one agrees with the President's politics or not, anger should be directed toward the regime that allowed this to become a worldwide pandemic. Anything else is bordering on traitorous.
     
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