BM/WW IR sightings on TV

[darkcurry]

You mean the show where both black men are asexual and/or gay.
Hard pass I'm good

Strand is gay, yes. Morgan is going through some things just like everyone else on that show, but here he is and have been getting better and interacting with the other people. There isn't much love and sex on Fear. Even Naomi & Dorie aren't that much involved and they are the only couple. Besides Morgan is striking up a relationship with Althea. Whether it's plutonic or they'll add more to it I don't know. When they are purposely doing shit and the black male characters are done dirty opposite the white male characters that's when I could see it being anti-black men. I'm not getting that vibe with Fear... at least not yet. They seem to crush every relationship that starts up. Hell two of the main lovers that were on the show is dead now. Naomi & Dorie are complicated. I don't know where they want to go when it comes to love stories, not sure if they really want to do them. Morgan is one of the most interesting characters in the franchise and at least Fear gave him a upgrade unlike TWD where he was downgraded to the crazy black guy that is standoffish of people.

 

[ColiBreh1]

Meh.

First of all it can be argued that Richonne is part of the reason for the downturn in ratings. I personally never saw any chemistry between the two performers and they hadn't even shared many scenes together before TPTB decided to kill off Andrea. It also irked me that Rick and Michonne never hooked up in comics nor did the comic book fans ever want them to. Richonne in the comics is far sexier, less moody and pretty much only hooked up with black guys. After the death of his wife in the comics, Rick moved on to Andrea and they have been the most stable, long-standing couple in the comic books. Now just think of that, TPTB decided to toss out that relationship and pair Rick on the show with the black chick instead. That's the type of privilege that WM/BW relationships get in gene TV/movie these days. Could you imagine a scenario in which it was a white female lead who had a relationship with a white male in the source material and the writers/producers deciding to throw out their romance and pair the white female with a black male co-star instead? On the most popular show on TV no less? I can't.

Because Rick is the lead that means his relationship with Michonne is often front and center. The same can't be said about Carol and Ezekiel. I like those two but their "romance", while clearly building over time, will have become official off screen; because of a time jump we will not be getting a chance to see when it truly bloomed. We will be thrust into a time in which their romance has already started. And who knows just how much attention it will get or how long Carol or Ezekiel will last before an untimely death. I can't say anything about the relationship until I know those answers.

The show still pisses me off because if it stayed true to the comics we would have been given a lady's man in Tyresse who also would have been an alpha male who could challenge Rick in authority. But that's not the Tyreese we got; instead that type of role went to Shane. Tyreese was given a sister who on the show lasted far longer than he did and her most important romantic relationship was with a white guy ultimately.

A far better representation of IR was Maggie and Glen who probably take the award for the best couple of the TV version of Walking Dead. Their relationship was a faithful adaption of the comic and I admit I'm envious that an Asian guy got arguably the hottest chick on the show who happened to be white and that their relationship may be the most popular pairing. No relationship involving a black man and a white woman ever got such a platform as Glen and Maggie did on America's most popular show.

Anyway I pretty much stopped watching regularly a couple of years ago.

^^ I Watch here and there. I like Fear The Walking Dead better.

You mean the show where both black men are asexual and/or gay.
Hard pass I'm good

I gotta co-sign TDK. I've NEVER seen an episode of TWD (I have seen the 1st season & a half of the spin-off series FTWD), but I know enough about the show from listening to black podcasts discuss the show & reading discussions on forums over the years, that they always do the black male characters dirty. So I'm just SMH that folks are getting excited about an old grey-haired IR couple on that show in this thread.

 

[ColiBreh1]

Speaking of this topic, 1 of the podcasts I listen to, did a recent episode where they briefly discussed how they felt Black Lightning is basically an A-Sexual chracter compared to the leads on the other CW DC shows (Skip to the 12:37 mark):


https://soundcloud.com/champagnesharks/teaser-for-cs-106-straight-single-and-smashing-07092018

This episode we talk about several things, particularly my “Straight, Single and Smashing” theory of Black (and other nonwhite) male characters in action and drama movies and shows. Then we segue into the new wave of articles involving coining catchy dating trends.

I know @The Dark King & @JamalSpunky gonna love it.



I can't really disagree with their assessment. At the very least Black Lightning should've been smashing the female Vice Principal character. It always seemed like she was trying to throw it at him.

 

[darkcurry]

I gotta co-sign TDK. I've NEVER seen an episode of TWD (I have seen the 1st season & a half of the spin-off series FTWD), but I know enough about the show from listening to black podcasts discuss the show & reading discussions on forums over the years, that they always do the black male characters dirty. So I'm just SMH that folks are getting excited about an old grey-haired IR couple on that show in this thread.

I wasn't getting excited myself. Just thought that was a pretty good step on mainstream television. They have not fucked over the Ezekiel character by the episodes I have seen and he is a fan favorite along with Carol so at least wait and see gentleman. lol.

You want to see a black male character get fucked over Dolls of Wynonna Earp is GRAND example of that.

 

[The Dark King]

Speaking of this topic, 1 of the podcasts I listen to, did a recent episode where they briefly discussed how they felt Black Lightning is basically an A-Sexual chracter compared to the leads on the other CW DC shows (Skip to the 12:37 mark):


https://soundcloud.com/champagnesharks/teaser-for-cs-106-straight-single-and-smashing-07092018




I know @The Dark King & @JamalSpunky gonna love it.



I can't really disagree with their assessment. At the very least Black Lightning should've been smashing the female Vice Principal chracter. It always seemed like trying to throw at him.

Yup and like I've said before all the advertisement centers on the two daughters more. You never see The Arrow or Flash sharing posters with other characters. On Netflix right now the thumbnail is of the daughter

 

[darkcurry]

I'm finished with all 8 episodes of The InnØcents on Netflix and I'm blown away by this show. That includes with how strong and beautiful the Interracial star-crossed romance of June & Harry is written... it is almost like these are the only two that could of pulled this off. This show is a very fresh take on the sci-fi genre and in a way is like Stranger Things for YA and adults. I won't give too much away but it hits at your emotions especially if your young or remember love like this in your young days. The girl is a shape shifter and on the show they are called shifters. Yes there is more than one, I won't give too much of that away though. The cliffhanger is VERY VERY Tough, heartbreaking season finale, but with buzz of a season 2 hopefully we will get closure.

**Link Contains spoilers**
https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Innocents_107_Unit_00123_R.jpeg?w=780

The Music and Score is beautiful as well.

https://soundcloud.com/carlyparadiscomposer/the-innocents-end-credits-theme-by-carly-paradis

 

[ColiBreh1]

I gotta co-sign TDK. I've NEVER seen an episode of TWD (I have seen the 1st season & a half of the spin-off series FTWD), but I know enough about the show from listening to black podcasts discuss the show & reading discussions on forums over the years, that they always do the black male characters dirty. So I'm just SMH that folks are getting excited about an old grey-haired IR couple on that show in this thread.

I wasn't getting excited myself. Just thought that was a pretty good step on mainstream television. They have not fucked over the Ezekiel character by the episodes I have seen and he is a fan favorite along with Carol so at least wait and see gentleman. lol.

You want to see a black male character get fucked over Dolls of Wynonna Earp is GRAND example of that.

Yes, they fucked over Dolls on "Wynonna Earp" after the 1st season. But Dolls in the 1st season still shits on the black male characters on TWD.

 

[darkcurry]

Yes, they fucked over Dolls on "Wynonna Earp" after the 1st season. But Dolls in the 1st season still shits on the black male characters on TWD.

Uhhh, Dolls was part of a love triangle from the beginning. Remember she had sex with the white guy in season 1. Love triangles don't count especially if the other guy is a white guy because we already seen what that means for the black guys. At least Ezekiel is still there and from what they are telling us is the only lover for Carol. If the TWD goes through even the first half of the season without ruining the relationship they would have ALREADY surpassed Wynonna and Dolls' "relationship".

 

[darkcurry]

"If a Romantic poet wrote a Marvel comic, it might look like "The InnØcents," on Netflix." Saw this quote on twitter and forgot who said it. Lol. but that is another good way to describe the show.

I'm finished with all 8 episodes of The InnØcents on Netflix and I'm blown away by this show. That includes with how strong and beautiful the Interracial star-crossed romance of June & Harry is written... it is almost like these are the only two that could of pulled this off. This show is a very fresh take on the sci-fi genre and in a way is like Stranger Things for YA and adults. I won't give too much away but it hits at your emotions especially if your young or remember love like this in your young days. The girl is a shape shifter and on the show they are called shifters. Yes there is more than one, I won't give too much of that away though. The cliffhanger is VERY VERY Tough, heartbreaking season finale, but with buzz of a season 2 hopefully we will get closure.

https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Innocents_107_Unit_00123_R.jpeg?w=780

**Link Contains spoilers**

The Music and Score is beautiful as well.

https://soundcloud.com/carlyparadiscomposer/the-innocents-end-credits-theme-by-carly-paradis

 

[SilverSmith]

Uhhh, Dolls was part of a love triangle from the beginning. Remember she had sex with the white guy in season 1. Love triangles don't count especially if the other guy is a white guy because we already seen what that means for the black guys. At least Ezekiel is still there and from what they are telling us is the only lover for Carol. If the TWD goes through even the first half of the season without ruining the relationship they would have ALREADY surpassed Wynonna and Dolls' "relationship".

I deserted Wynonna Earp after three episodes during season 1 because of the nonsensical dialogue and borderline campy acting . That it has not been cancelled has me riddled with confusion because SYFY has axed better shows than W. Earp over the past year. Maybe the production costs are manageable.

"If a Romantic poet wrote a Marvel comic, it might look like "The InnØcents," on Netflix." Saw this quote on twitter and forgot who said it. Lol. but that is another good way to describe the show.

The premise is clever and edgy; the acting is excellent. I hope to stream the final episode by Tues.

 

[darkcurry]

I deserted Wynonna Earp after three episodes during season 1 because of the nonsensical dialogue and borderline campy acting . That it has not been cancelled has me riddled with confusion because SYFY has axed better shows than W. Earp over the past year. Maybe the production costs are manageable.



The premise is clever and edgy; the acting is excellent. I hope to stream the final episode by Tues.

Im blown away with how well Cloak and Dagger and The InnØcents are written and made overall with the lead characters being in Interracial relationships because this could've easily went the other way. They hit it out the park and making a show where the love interest of lead white woman is black and with it being successful with critics and fans. This is where Wynonna Earp failed at when they just decided to do away with a Wynonna and Dolls and could've made the show much better because the whole shipping of WynnDolls started early online in the first season. But they could take that risk because as ratings showed they are decent which is why SYFY renewed it for a season 4. Granted other shows have done better like Dark Matter and they still cancelled it, but I guess because W. Earp is cheap to make as long as the ratings are decent they can get away with it.

Which is all more the reason why Cloak and Dagger and The InnØcents being successful is a big deal because obviously those shows don't work without them so they can't just cancel the relationship. Especially with C&D the fans are CLAMORING for Tandy and Tyrone to hurry up and get together, but obviously the writers want to make their love story as good as possible. Hopefully these two Interracial Romance Shows started a trend that Those In Hollywood has and is still trying to avoid having bm/ww as a lead romance.

 

[ColiBreh1]

I wasn't getting excited myself. Just thought that was a pretty good step on mainstream television. They have not fucked over the Ezekiel character by the episodes I have seen and he is a fan favorite along with Carol so at least wait and see gentleman. lol.

You want to see a black male character get fucked over Dolls of Wynonna Earp is GRAND example of that.

Yes, they fucked over Dolls on "Wynonna Earp" after the 1st season. But Dolls in the 1st season still shits on the black male characters on TWD.

Uhhh, Dolls was part of a love triangle from the beginning. Remember she had sex with the white guy in season 1. Love triangles don't count especially if the other guy is a white guy because we already seen what that means for the black guys. At least Ezekiel is still there and from what they are telling us is the only lover for Carol. If the TWD goes through even the first half of the season without ruining the relationship they would have ALREADY surpassed Wynonna and Dolls' "relationship".

Did you forget that Ezekiel & Carol on TWD are an old grey-haired couple? You keep talking about how they are a fan favorite couple, but that's probably because they're old & grey-haired. Based on how popular a show TWD is, I doubt they would be a fan favorite couple if they were younger characters.

 

[darkcurry]

^^ lol. I never said they were a fan favorite couple. I said he and Carol were both fan favorites and they are. I have no reason to lie about that. I'm just pointing out they still have the potential to be more than whatever Wynonna and Dolls were. You want young, beautiful and sexy IR couples there are a few out there that we have mentioned. So let's talk about them. I was just mentioning The InnØcents although they are playing a teen couple the actors are grown and there is a BEAUTIFUL love scene on that show if you ever got the chance to check it out.

But my point is there are far better interracial relationships out there that are written beautifully and like the writers actually care than the debacle that was Wynonna and Dolls.

 

[JamalSpunky]

Trailer just came out for this. It's a new series for Facebook which means I won't be seeing it because I don't do Facebook. Facebook, like every other media service/empire, has gotten into the original TV fiction programming business. Anyway looks kinda good. Btw what's up with this Mamoudou Athie dude getting all this IR? He's the love interest of Brie Larson in her directorial debut "Unicorn Store" and was the love interest of the lead in "Patti Cake$".

By the way Elizabeth Olsen is an executive producer of this series.

 

[The Dark King]

Trailer just came out for this. It's a new series for Facebook which means I won't be seeing it because I don't do Facebook. Facebook, like every other media service/empire, has gotten into the original TV fiction programming business. Anyway looks kinda good. Btw what's up with this Mamoudou Athie dude getting all this IR? He's the love interest of Brie Larson in her directorial debut "Unicorn Store" and was the love interest of the lead in "Patti Cake$".

By the way Elizabeth Olsen is an executive producer of this series.

Wow this looks good

 

[darkcurry]

Trailer just came out for this. It's a new series for Facebook which means I won't be seeing it because I don't do Facebook. Facebook, like every other media service/empire, has gotten into the original TV fiction programming business. Anyway looks kinda good. Btw what's up with this Mamoudou Athie dude getting all this IR? He's the love interest of Brie Larson in her directorial debut "Unicorn Store" and was the love interest of the lead in "Patti Cake$".

By the way Elizabeth Olsen is an executive producer of this series.

Edit: Never mind he IS playing Matt the husband. That died. So this is either a one season series or probably if picked up the last time or very few times you'll see him.

It does look interesting but you have to always stay aware when mainstream actresses get involved in exploring IR love stories with black men on screen, more so AMERICAN mainstream actresses. I did notice in the trailer though they have a lot of moments there were no kissing scenes that's still kind of a rule with mainstream actresses we have seen with black male love interest. But I will root for this since we are getting some quality real good interracial romances with lead characters like:
Cloak and Dagger
The Good Place
The InnØcents
Dynasty
FAM
(I'm sure you and @ColiBreh1 will let me know if Im missing some. lol.)


But Facebook maybe not the best choice right now with the shit they are going through. Should've shopped it to youtube... or netflix that is killing it right now with the Interracial Romance Shows and Movies.

 

[The Dark King]

So it's a show about her not yet getting over an ex even though she is married.

It does look interesting but you have to always stay aware when mainstream actresses get involved in exploring IR love stories with black men on screen, more so AMERICAN mainstream actresses. I did notice in the trailer though they have a lot of moments there were no kissing scenes that's still kind of a rule with mainstream actresses we have seen with black male love interest. But I will root for this since we are getting some quality real good interracial romances with lead characters like:
Cloak and Dagger
The Good Place
The InnØcents
Dynasty
FAM
(I'm sure you and @ColiBreh1 will let me know if Im missing some. lol.)


But Facebook maybe not the best choice right now with the shit they are going through. Should've shopped it to youtube... or netflix that is killing it right now with the Interracial Romance Shows and Movies.

I think dude died not a breakup

 

[darkcurry]

^^ I know I just edited that post when I realized she was talking about him. I just woke up not too long ago. lol.

 

[ryanpaulstewart]

"If a Romantic poet wrote a Marvel comic, it might look like "The InnØcents," on Netflix." Saw this quote on twitter and forgot who said it. Lol. but that is another good way to describe the show.

Just finished the inn0cents and yo, this show is exculsively powered by the love story... and it was really good. At first, I thought it was too heavy-handed, but the writers wrote the shit out of their romance.

 

[Young Herschel]

Trailer just came out for this. It's a new series for Facebook which means I won't be seeing it because I don't do Facebook. Facebook, like every other media service/empire, has gotten into the original TV fiction programming business. Anyway looks kinda good. Btw what's up with this Mamoudou Athie dude getting all this IR? He's the love interest of Brie Larson in her directorial debut "Unicorn Store" and was the love interest of the lead in "Patti Cake$".

By the way Elizabeth Olsen is an executive producer of this series.

Watch it on KODI or fyrestick??