Sexual Harassment/Assault Scandals

As they should. No one likes to be sexually groped uninvited. Even porn-stars.He stuck his finger in one actresses's vagina for his grope videos. He should have been charged.

 

Maybe she became unstable because she was raped.

 

Correct. And there was also victim Raz- B of B2K who exposed sexual predators Chris Stokes and Marques Houston.



Singers Raz-B And Quindon Tarver Talk About Being Raped As Teens By Marques Houston And Chris Stokes

http://www.judiciaryreport.com/singers_raz_b_and_quindon_tarver_talk_about_being_raped_as_teens.htm

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...Then there is this dastardly 'icon'..

EXCLUSIVE: Afrika Bambaataa sex abuse accuser Ronald Savage details years of torment following hip-hop icon's molestation: ‘He damaged me'



By SHAYNA JACOBS, BEN KOCHMAN, RICH SCHAPIRO, MICHAEL O’KEEFFE
APR 9, 2016

As one of the artists who helped invent the music that exploded out of South Bronx block parties and Boys Club dances, hip-hop pioneer Afrika Bambaataa was already a New York legend in the late 1970s...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ccuser-ronald-savage-speaks-article-1.2594599

Clearly however, people like these damaged men "just don't get it" and one must know "the way to do things" and not dare get "cocky and arrogant" and well, just be a perfect victim in order to 'represent".

God, l hope these imperfect victims continue to yell it from the rooftops, screw the naysayers.

 

That is a thing. They will use all past and present things you did to either win the argument or to discredit you. To those types it doesn't matter if you are a victim. I believe i is more than "patriarchy", but I understand what you are trying to say.

Rose is known for making racist and transphobic statements. But it also doesn't mean that she isn't a victim of sexual assault. She is a crap person, but she is also a victim.

The tricky thing is that if you want to take on an institution that is known for it's misogyny, you have to keep your nose clean. Otherwise, they will use it all against you.

The same goes for when men have to combat the many misandric institutions in our society.

 

In a lot of movies, gay men were more often comic relief, a compassionate shoulder for a woman to lean on.

A predatory gay man is a sociopath. Driven by his own sexual desires. He could be into bdsm or other activities that let him enjoy the rush of power it gives him. Even rape.

It was said that Charles Manson was bisexual and he was in jail for raping a man.

There was a film called Compulsion with Orson Welles. The film was based on an actual case involving the kidnapping and death of a young boy by two men who were gay.

Not all in the LGBTQ community are pedophiles and rapists.

 

My point really isn't about the victims. I think they need to do whatever they need to do. However, if the purpose is to make a real change in any industry then I think there is much more to it than that. You have to really understand what you are up against and how far reaching it is. It's a tough thing....of course there should be change and people need to speak up and do things to make changes. However, those changes are not going to come easily. There are those who are very powerful who have a vested interest in keeping things as they wish and have done so for many many years. I think people are severely underestimating what they are dealing with. That doesn't mean they shouldn't do something about it....but the gut reactions usually are not the things that will create real lasting changes.

 

Thanks so much for totally twisting what I said and intended. What I said is more about the establishment and being smart about the way those who want to change things go about it. I absolutely NEVER and would NEVER said anything against any victim (the same cannot be said about you and things you have posted in this forum).

 

Yes, it is the status quo when you threaten that you damn well better make sure you do it the right way. It is about unity and diversity and being about those things and not just saying it. When you want to be exclusive to one group of people you will alienate others because they will know it is all about you and people sense out what you want. The White Patriarchy knows White feminist just wants to replace them. They are not threaten by that they know how to deal with it. They have holes in their movement and it will be attacked. People have trouble forgiving those who have made mistakes and bad decisions because the people are a divided bunch. Race, politics, class, ect. and we have trouble coming together because it's always the other side's fault, instead in the words of Dave Chapelle the environment being sick.

People like Rose connects to their base and have aspirations of REPLACING power instead of the power of unity and diversity. If she had unity and diversity as her message instead of "just believe women" she would have a lot of support for this bad decision and encouraged to get help while others take the lead. But political feminism and really political ANYTHING is divisive. That is the way politics work, politics does not teach and inspire unity and diversity it poisons you with divisiveness and the blame game on each other.

 

That didn't bother me too much although I hear what you're saying

 

'Ya', I didn't twist a thing, those were your words, you accused them of "getting cocky and arrogant" in there methodology. (I don't ever see such lecturing from you when it comes to those fighting race issues.)

Clearly, your way? of doing it doesn't work because as we see, sexual abuse has been as rampant as ever by keeping them fearful to take on the 'establishment'. At this juncture, who gives a rats ass about how the 'establishment' operates -- it's on its knees right now, and now is the time to strike. Men are on notice that women's bodies are not carte blanche when they say no. .
If Rose McGowan wants to out her rapist with tears down her face, she can. No one ever listens to women calmly describing rape - it's horrific and emotionally scarring. The 'establishment' is finally learning that the expectation of sex-for-a-job days are OVER.

 

That could very well be the case. I know a couple of sexual assault victims who have had nervous breakdowns and required therapy. However, the problem with making her the face of Hollywood victims is that her instability could make other victims look crazy like she does.

 

Ok, I get what you're saying.

 

GOD DAMN, Marques Houston molested B2K members too!! I always assumed it was just Chris Stokes, but I shouldn't be suprised.

 

A LOT of them lose their moral high ground since this shit went on and they took the money making this all look transactional. This wasn't a problem or something that needed to be addressed when they were on top. It feels like a bunch of people trying to get attention for roles. And again I'll say it if we are truly concerned about victims of sexual assault then are we focused on rich people who allegedly went through it?

 

If anyone tells you if you fuck me, I'll give you a job, it's really hard after the fact to claim you were a victim of sexual harassment.
YOU agreed to the terms, therefore you are no longer a victim.

 

Not sure what interview she said it in bit she wrote about it in detail years ago in her book. She gave a pretty graphic account. Something about having a handful of greasy shrimp and jacking off, being all sweaty and shit. I think it even ended with him cumming on something or shooting in the air or something

 

So much truth. I really noticed it when I started hitting the bars and clubs with my army buddy who is a textbook jacked, douchey, pretty boy. Women didn't give a fuck about boundaries. They are often pathetic and awkward when they cape for attention. It's painful to watch sometimes.

 

Over? No. On a decline? Possibly. With social media and instagram dm culture and all that, there are still plenty of girls that have zero problem fucking for a job, status, some entry into the entertainment industry, etc. This may be true for the people classically trained/years of experience in the field with displayable talents but for the girl with 4 million followers but no marketable talent, some of those girls actually feel empowered by what their pussy can do. The days of women using their bodies to get ahead will never go away.

 

It's like I said about the sex part earlier in this. At least SOME of those women accepted his advances and have fucked him. He keeps having his lawyer put out the statement that "“Any allegations of non-consensual sex are unequivocally denied by Mr.Weinstein." Some of these women fucked him willingly!

I look at that part as them making a deal with the devil.