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andreboba said:
The Republicans have gerrymandered congressional districts all across the country.
That's why blue states like Ohio, Illinois, Wisconsin and Michigan have republican governors and majority republican legislative bodies.

Also, tell me the last time the United States didn't sell arms to ME countries??
This is a phony controversy and to complain that Hillary 'will sell the U.S. to Saudi Arabia' is nonsensical.

Those ME countries may be autocratic, but making them weak enough to be overthrown by radical armed islamists is also a threat to a the balance of power in the region.

There are no easy solutions to the problems that ail the ME and wishing for democratic regimes doesn't mean it will ever happen.

There's a line of thought the only meaningful foreign policy strategy is to try to maintain the status quo and encourage these regimes, bit by bit, to enact piecemeal democratic reforms.


Newsflash, the United States has ALWAYS brokered arms sales to bad actors.

Hillary Clinton's State Department wasn't the first and won't be the last.

It's fascinating that not one U.S. senator or U.S. representative protested these arms deals.

Was there quid pro quo going on between donations to the Clinton Foundation and some of these deals?

Probably.
Highly unethical. But not criminal because it can't be proven.

You're going to need a stronger negative argument against Hillary than this to show she's unqualified to be POTUS.
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Damn you are slapping this lady silly. Please show some mercy :smt043
 
andreboba said:
The Republicans have gerrymandered congressional districts all across the country.
That's why blue states like Ohio, Illinois, Wisconsin and Michigan have republican governors and majority republican legislative bodies.

Also, tell me the last time the United States didn't sell arms to ME countries??
This is a phony controversy and to complain that Hillary 'will sell the U.S. to Saudi Arabia' is nonsensical.

Those ME countries may be autocratic, but making them weak enough to be overthrown by radical armed islamists is also a threat to a the balance of power in the region.

There are no easy solutions to the problems that ail the ME and wishing for democratic regimes doesn't mean it will ever happen.

There's a line of thought the only meaningful foreign policy strategy is to try to maintain the status quo and encourage these regimes, bit by bit, to enact piecemeal democratic reforms.


Newsflash, the United States has ALWAYS brokered arms sales to bad actors.

Hillary Clinton's State Department wasn't the first and won't be the last.

It's fascinating that not one U.S. senator or U.S. representative protested these arms deals.

Was there quid pro quo going on between donations to the Clinton Foundation and some of these deals?

Probably.
Highly unethical. But not criminal because it can't be proven.

You're going to need a stronger negative argument against Hillary than this to show she's unqualified to be POTUS.
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The statement in bold is unequivocally false, at least in regards to Illinois. It shows you're talking out of your butt.

Your beloved Democrats very much gerrymander districts to their liking, as well. I will only speak for Illinois, but Michael Madigan has absolutely gerrymandered districts when his hand-picked protégé Tammy Duckworth couldn't get elected, as one example.

As for the rest, Illinois ONLY elected a Republican governor this time around because the people were sick to death of the likes of Blago (who went to jail) and his nincompoop Lt. Governor Pat Quinn who did next to nothing to fix the state's problems.

And Illinois is very much a blue state. The democrats hold a supermajority, which is why they haven't passed a budget in 10 months. Michael Madigan is ONLY looking out for the union workers, and Bruce Rauner wants to cut some of the unions' power as well as pass a balanced budget (imagine that, passing a balanced budget!!), something the Illinois Democrats don't know how to do. They'd rather kick the can down the road, increase taxes, and not allocate the money where it should be going.

Neither one is backing down, and honestly, Rauner CAN'T back down because then Madigan will truly hold all of the power.

As for the rest, I never said the US didn't sell arms to the ME and neither did that article. The article stated that the arms to the ME increased drastically under Clinton as compared to the same time period under GWB.

Enjoy the Clinton Kool-Aid.

I'm out.
 
I'd rather sell more arms to those ME dictators and let them fight their OWN wars than spending our own blood and treasure to bail their asses out when they decide to invade each other.

We shouldn't have one U.S. troop die EVER to defend the sovereignty of any of those countries.

Being wrong about the political makeup of the Illinois legislature is not quite talking out of your ass, but whatever.:roll:

But saying Hillary is going 'sell the U.S. to the Saudis' is.
Right wing talking talking points usually are.
 
Bliss said:
Heard in a news blurb that Virginia's Governor passed a new law that allows convicted felons to now vote, and many have speculated he did so, so that Hellary can win the vote in Nov.

200,000 new voters..
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-will-now-have-the-right-to-vote-in-november/
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There is a difference between convicted felons and ex-convicted felons. If you have served your time then you should have your rights stored back. Nothing to do with Hillary.
It is just politics. no one complains when the state taxes the ex-felons.
 
Bliss said:
Heard in a news blurb that Virginia's Governor passed a new law that allows convicted felons to now vote, and many have speculated he did so, so that Hellary can win the vote in Nov.

200,000 new voters..
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-will-now-have-the-right-to-vote-in-november/
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Currently Virginia is blue state in presidential elections.
McAuliffe is a long time Clinton aide and loyalist and there probably is some political calculation behind this move, but at the same time I think it's wrong that felons who have been released from prison lose the right to vote, forever, in VA.

Until the GOP gets behind a moderate candidate who's not a Bible thumper or wants to outlaw the federal government, they're going to have a hard time winning presidential elections.

SC governor Nikki Hailey is still the GOP's best bet to win the POTUS.

She's a conservative but not a zealot, and what she did by showing the political courage to remove the confederate flag from the state capitol will probably net her the highest percentage of minority votes by any republican candidate in modern history, if she ever chooses to run.

For moderates and independents who think both parties are the same, I could see them rolling with Nicki Hailey in 4 years.

I pray to God she doesn't let Trump pimp her to join his ticket as his VP.lol

Hate to say it but to end the republican obstruction in Congress is probably going to require a republican president in the Oval Office.:smt009
 
andreboba said:
I'd rather sell more arms to those ME dictators and let them fight their OWN wars than spending our own blood and treasure to bail their asses out when they decide to invade each other.

We shouldn't have one U.S. troop die EVER to defend the sovereignty of any of those countries.

Being wrong about the political makeup of the Illinois legislature is not quite talking out of your ass, but whatever.:roll:

But saying Hillary is going 'sell the U.S. to the Saudis' is.
Right wing talking talking points usually are.
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First off, when I said that Hillary would sell the US to the Saudis, I didn't mean she'd literally sell the US to the Saudis. What I did mean was that it's proven she can be bought through donations to the Clinton Foundation. And if you think she'll get into office and stop those favors, you need to reconsider.

It will just get worse. And if you can't admit that to yourself, then you really need to take off those rose-colored Clinton glasses.

As for the beginning of your post, you do realize that we sold arms to Al Qaeda to fight the Russians in Afghanistan in the late 70s, right? And how did that work out for us in the long run?

I'll wait whilst you try to formulate an anti-Republican response to that.

Being so anti- one party is not a good thing.

There are pros and cons to both parties, and finding a happy medium is essential for the future of this country.
 
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The Dark King said:
Not our judicial system. Took me a long time to realize it but they don't seek justice when it comes to us pure and simple trash disposal to them
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I just read something that stated the death penalty in California was briefly ruled unconstitutional in 1972 and all the prisoners on death row had their sentences commuted to life in prison.

None of his followers were given the death penalty either.

However there's clearly a racial element going on here, regardless.

If the Manson family was ALL BLACK and killing high profile White folk in order to start a race war in the U.S., I don't think their sentences would have been retroactively commuted.
 
Bookworm616 said:
Saint and Hillary should never be in the same sentence.

You soil the good name of every saint who ever was and ever will be with that sentence.
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The Saints whose contemporaries(The Roman Catholic Fathers) abuse or condone the abuse of altar boys? You do realise that the saint word was used in a particular perspective with respect to Trump.:cool:
 
APPIAH said:
The Saints whose contemporaries(The Roman Catholic Fathers) abuse or condone the abuse of altar boys? You do realise that the saint word was used in a particular perspective with respect to Trump.:cool:
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Yes, I did understand and it still doesn't change the fact that no matter HOW you use that word, it would never, ever apply to Hillary.

Ever.
 
andreboba said:
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Currently Virginia is blue state in presidential elections.
McAuliffe is a long time Clinton aide and loyalist and there probably is some political calculation behind this move , but at the same time I think it's wrong that felons who have been released from prison lose the right to vote, forever, in VA.

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Very close...

EXCLUSIVE: Video footage showing Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe
and Chinese billionaire Wang Wenliang at Hillary's house revealed
as FBI probes campaign donations

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-revealed-FBI-probes-campaign-donations.html
 
Don't follow politics, but if Hillary's hotsauce comment caught a lot of shit, Bernie Sander's DMX entrance better catch even more shit for pandering and "racism".
 
GFunk said:
Don't follow politics, but if Hillary's hotsauce comment caught a lot of shit, Bernie Sander's DMX entrance better catch even more shit for pandering and "racism".
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I didn't catch it, but I think there's a qualitative difference between picking out music that fires up your supporters and talking about something that you purport to be part of your character or personality. I bet he isn't even involved in music selection at his events. That would be like Sanders claiming that DMX was his favorite rapper or something.
 
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