Would you have guessed that SHE used to be a HE?

Not fixed. She's a woman. And don't tell me that if you didn't know she had been born with a penis, you wouldn't have willingly hit that.

 

Exactly. If you didn't know from interaction and sex, why the hell would it matter?

 

So deception is needed to validate a point?

People are tricked all the time - it doesn't lessen one's reaction because of the extent of one's foolery, especially something so personal as human/physical encounters.

And it's understandable.....imagine if your Goverment pulled one over on you, I'm sure you'd be pissed - and rightly so.

Imagine if you didn't eat beef for whatever reason (moral, physical) and a chef offered you a sausage stuffed with beef but told you it was turkey and arranged it to look like turkey....and you ate it...how would you feel about that? Would you maybe throw it up when you found out?

 

I'm not getting the analogy. Transgender women are not engaging in deception. They are women. A more apt analogy would be a brunette who dyes her hair blonde. Is it deception if she doesn't disclose she was not born a blonde to every person she meets?

(BTW having grown up in the 60s and 70s, I *expect* my government is deceiving me, all the damned time. I'm never surprised by that - frankly I'm shocked when they tell the truth)

 

You dont see transgender women as women, I do. So a former brunette has to tell every single person she interacts with "Hello, my name is Suzie, and my hair is dyed blonde, I was born a brunette! Nice to meet you."

I guess lipstick and mascara are deceptions too, huh? Certainly control top pantyhose, a man sucking in his gut or combing his thinning hair in a way that minimizes the thinness. Oh, also high heels - it's deceiving people about your actual height.

 

i think that disclosure is key...i don't care how good a job the doctor did...i don't care how pretty or handsome the end result is...the truth is the truth...period end of story...i want to know what the damn birth certificate says...male or female

 

agreed once again, id give rep but gotta spread it around

 

Yep...honesty gets lost in al this translation. If a man will run off when you tell him up front, he'll run off on date #5, too.

TS have the freedom to reveal upfront - AB video of the two TS attest to that - so the "if I dont tell him hell never know", or the if he didn't know he'd hit it" mentality is juvenile and fraudulent.

 

C'mon Trixie...when I was blonde and a guy asked me if I was a natural blonde, I'd reply 'It says natural on the bottle". I sure as hell wouldn't lie and say "yes". I'd look like a fool.

No high heels do NOT deceive men about your height. Any man who thinks a woman is born with 4 inch spikes growing out of her foot..well I won't even finish my point.

Mascara, lipsticks..you forget that lashes and lips already exist there before the application to enhance. (note, not replace).
A woman who puts on a strap-on doesn't suddenly become a man - her vagina is still there under the contraption.

 

When observing the clitoris...it strangely resembles that phallic object we men possess. Well hey, a dick is an over-sized clitoris after all.

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naughty lol

 

Why doesn't it surprise me that an inexperienced (perhaps virginal?) man would look at one pic of a clit and think that's what all clits look like.

 

I never made that assumption. You did (and wrongly so as usual). And since you want to be cute, would you splendidly show yours for the world to see? We're all curious to see that little pink eye.

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I'll pass. But you're more than welcome to show us how your dick resembles an oversized clit.

 

Fixed.

 

Lol. One might wonder why he sought out and displayed a clit that resembles a penis. Happy medium perhaps?

I guess because people stopped clicking his links, they're now back to being in our face. :smt012

 

I always thought that my views of gender were well formed until I saw a documentary on the National Geographic Channel. The documentary covered the subject of sexual dismorphia and its varied physical manifestations.

One segment of the story featured a Black man and a white woman. The woman looked a bit masculine, in my opinion, was tall with large hands, more chiseled features, and yet was born with a vagina. She had female genes but was infertile.

Another woman featured on the program looked like any other woman, was born with a vagina also, but had male genes.

There were also men on the program born with similar kinds of gender identification issues.

How should those born with vaginae be classified as women, if they in fact have male genes? Should a person who's born and looks like a male, but without a true penis be classified as a female?

Should the female South African runner long distance runner, who strongly resembled a man, had the musculature and voice of a man, have been permitted to compete against women?

What duty do these women who have vaginae have to make initial disclosures as to their genetic background, despite their obvious physical appearance, to their partners?

I find it all a bit disconcerting.

 

I think for a serious relationship certainly whether or not biological children can be had is something which can be discussed.

 

When a person has transitioned they can petition to change the birth certificate, if I remember correctly