Women should get alimony for LIFE!

Certain skills aren't transferable. The vast majority of manual labor jobs ARE NOT transferable unless you were in some type of management. If you did construction and there aren't many construction jobs left what do you do? But if you and your wife decided that its not her fault its your fault for sticking with that and sticking with someone who didn't support you to do something else. I'm not saying managing home isn't hard work but once the kids are old enough to go to school what do you really have to do all day. Cleaning isn't an every single day event and as long as you do light cleaning a couple of hours a day it doesn't get out of control and laundry is a couple of days a week at most and you're not hand washing it so it doesn't require that much manual work.
Maybe I'm biased because my mom and my grandmother did all that shit and never complained about how tired they were unless they were working too. Now that I admit is really hard. Daily chores and a full time job is brutal.

 

It appears people are keeping their posts civil for the most part, so it's nice to see that subversive tactic fail.

 

Post of the month...I would put all this in my sig if I could.

 

Is it really? Lmao smh

 

NO!


MRA"s ( Tom Lykis, Dr. Paul Elam, Tariq Nasheed ( PUA/MRA ), Roger Allen Curry ( PUA/MRA )) will have a field day with this feminist and her third wave propaganda retoric.

Feminism.. is Evil!

http://www.dadsnow.org/

Just saying!

 

MRAs, otherwise known as "the guys who can't get laid."

 

I'm just going to find an old prune and screw him to death. No need for alimony then

 

Don't be mad cause you didn't think of it lol

 

Lol you got me Fresh lol

 

we need to get twin prunes

 

lol... surely you gest! Flag On The Play..... What's up with the shaming Tactics Toots?

I was referring to the ones that do not cowtow to the constant bombardment of feminist drivel in modern America primarily stating what a man should do or not do in society according to the feminist doctrine!

I can only assume that those MRA's that your referring to did not want to lay YOU!

Manginas, Simps, Pick Up Artist usually foot the bill!




‘The Catalogue of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics’

From http://menforjustice.net/;-

“Shaming tactics.” This phrase is familiar to many Men’s Rights Activists. It conjures up the histrionic behavior of female detractors who refuse to argue their points with logic. Yet women are not the only ones guilty of using shaming tactics against men. Male gynocentrists use them, too.

Shaming tactics are emotional devices meant to play on a man’s insecurities and shut down debate. They are meant to elicit sympathy for women and to demonize men who ask hard questions. Most, if not all, shaming tactics are basically ad homimem attacks.

Anyway, it might be helpful to categorize the major shaming tactics that are used against men whenever a discussion arises about feminism, men’s issues, romance, etc. The following list contains descriptions of shaming tactics, some examples of quotes employing the tactics, and even color-coded aliases for mnemonic purposes. Enjoy.


Charge of Rationalization (Code Purple) – The Sour Grapes Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of explaining away his own failures and/or dissatisfaction by blaming women for his problems. Example:

“You are just bitter because you can’t get laid.”

Response: In this case, it must be asked if it really matters how one arrives at the truth. In other words, one may submit to the accuser, “What if the grapes really are sour?” At any rate, the Code Purple shaming tactic is an example of what is called “circumstantial ad hominem.”


But I Digress!... Carry On!

 

No, I wouldn't date one of those bitter woman haters if their dicks were a foot long and studded with diamonds. The MRA movement has, at it's heart, enormous contempt for women. What woman would want to be with that?

Their constant carping on how all women are out to hurt men, and how they're just "nice guys (trademark)" who put all the "right" phrases into the vending machine woman, and don't get pussy out misses entirely that women aren't stupid, and a guy who is using his stock phrases to get pussy isn't particularly interested in the human the pussy comes attached to. Women are not, as a whole, stupid.

 

Firstly, that's not true. Every job has transferable skills. Some jobs have more than others, but you acquire a multitude of skills in everything you do.

Taken from this: http://www.mobilechamber.com/WF/Re-careering_skills.pdf

2. General Manufacturing – At first glance, working in a manufacturing plant may not appear to yield a variety of transferable skills. But even looking at the work from an outsider’s view, you’ll see that industrial jobs give you many transferable talents, including quality monitoring and evaluation; computer skills; the ability to read and analyze production orders and specifications; time-management and organizational skills; technical trade and skilled-labor abilities; teamwork; and product-specific knowledge. Technical, trades, and other specialized manufacturing jobs yield equipment-maintenance, production-planning, and supervisory skills. Still, the permanent decline in the number of manufacturing jobs resulting from the shrinkage of entire industries, such as the auto sector, is cause for concern. If your skills are highly specific to one product or industry, you may need extensive training in a new trade or occupation.

Secondly, you are automatically stating that I think it's the woman that should get alimony. In my post, I was not gender specific. My post applies to both genders.

You aren't thinking long-term at all. The spouse who stays home, they work FT in the home, but they aren't bringing money in, so likely they aren't saving much of anything. They also have lost several years of contributing to Social Security. There is no Stay at Home Parent 401K plan, so they have very little (if any) retirement savings if they wind up divorced when they're in their 40s and 50s.

As for your "send them to daycare" comment. You do realize how expensive daycare is? And if there are multiple kids in at the same time? That means you're dropping $2K+ a month JUST IN DAYCARE COSTS.

It's not cheap to have children at all. So if a couple wants to have children and the most financially feasible option is for one of them to stay home, then I think it's perfectly fine for the stay-at-home parent to ask (and get) alimony for a set amount of time (if needed). Some people get lucky and land a job right away, no matter how long they've been out of the work force, but I think those instances are rare.

 

i must spread the love before i can rep you again lovely joanie boobsworm 007. it's true, unless you're in the situation or have been in the situation, you never will completely understand just how expensive it is having children. daycare costs are ridiculous which is one of the reasons why my ex and i decided that i should stay home with our children until they went to school. i've never received alimony from my ex and i was out of the workforce from 2003 until 2010 raising our children at home. my skills certainly went down & if i were to be honest, i was scared that i wouldn't be able to find a job that would be a) willing to take me on after being out for 7 years; b) wouldn't find a job that would be flexible enough for me to still be there for my kids when they got home from school or got sick; and c) would pay me what i need. i was lucky that the job i have now fell into my lap the way it did. it doesn't pay me nearly as much as i deserve and it isn't anywhere in the league of what i'm used to work wise, but i'm happy because i'm able to have the flexibility to be with my children. my ex on the other hand earns $50,000 more than me a year because he has remained in the workforce and he's able to fly interstate and work the long hours that's required of him.

 

I think it is sad that some don't get this part (and I don't even have kids or stayed at home). Your X did get to his pay because you did stay at home for 7 years. While he was able to expand his skills and continue to be adding to his resume, and also, adding to his retirement - you actually went backwards in terms of employ-ability and chances to advance both in pay and position and also not adding to your retirement.

If it is something that is agreed upon that a spouse stay at home, that spouse really pay dearly for that in terms of future employment/retirement etc. Not everybody has the luxury to send the kids to kindergarten etc.

If I was young and my husband wanted me to stay at home or we couldn't afford to send the kids to kindergarten, I would not assume he wants to stay with me for the rest of his life and I would require some sort of saving plan in my name locked for retirement, only to be mine if a divorce happened. If we got divorced, at least I had not fallen abysmally behind in retirement and I didn't have to jump off a cliff when I became unemployable due to age at the very least.

A Courtyard I regularly stay at in Pennsylvania has this woman working the breakfast, she must be over 80 years old, no joke.
She was traded for a newer model in her mid 60s (she was a stay at home mom as was common for her generation) and have no retirement and simply cant afford to retire. I don't know much more of her situation than that. I know she raised 6 kids and I hope they help her out.
She is damn lucky she has this job, she is not good at it due to her age but they keep her and I pray the do. I don't know what would happen to her if they let her go.

 

Man down, man down! Somebody call the




Satyr just killed an entire army of mens ego's. :smt066

 

You must the love etc before you can rep that hot tamale of a wife again. You're such an amazing woman and you get it. The savings is such a fantastic idea and one that I wish I had thought of when we agreed to me staying at home. I would so recommend this to every person that ever agreed to stay home to look after their children

 

awwwww! I love you toooooo... you know that. I freakin adore you!
I think its sad that this is something a lot of people don't think of. You stay at home, and of course it is a privilege to get that time with the kids, but it comes at a price for the one staying at home and lets not play games, the one going to work DO reap benefits from that.. that person can focus on their career and advance, something the stay at home person forfeit....
Even if it is a privilege (hard work as it is), it doesn't pay for your retirement. What are they supposed to do? Just die?

It has to be accounted for and many men I talk to in real life SO get that part. Its not about alimony and sucking someone dry. Its fair, just take care of someone that raised your children and that gave you the chance to raise in pay and position and accumulate retirement .
That is all I am concerned with. The rest is up for nuptial agreements or discussion but leaving someone that raised your children for an extended time without retirement is not acceptable.
I don't agree w alimony for life or some stupid demandment that some people have, we are just talking about decency here...

Its sad that we don't have the insight when we are younger, when it matters. I wouldn't know better either. That is something that comes with experience. I wish we were born with it.

 

Or we should all stop having kids and call it a day or plan much better. I guess I trust no one so much that I would rely on them. Despite what we think is fair I recognize most people are selfish in the end and I have only me to count on. I've seen way too many formerly in love people shit on each other to trust current feelings or circumstances. I guess that's me.

 

i don't want a my husband to suport me forever but if i hapen to divose now am not leaving with nothing either
maybe sound bad to some people

he didnt want me to work
and just because i stay home does not mean i done nothing for this family i done my part too more then he have every hard time we had i was the one i was missing out i make sure everyone have first what they need and put myself last ...

i done so much for him and his family in all this years and was not even my choise to stay home


just seen some of this post here so damn sad